Split it at 6 and everyone is happy.
Until that happens, lets head to the pub
Hahaha I'm down. Can't wait for this all to just be over.
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4 1sts for that contract. Anything more than 5 yrs gets divided by 5 for compensation AAV purposes.
1 x $9.4M might actually be the most problematic offersheet to match.
Curufinwe
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Jacob Trouba is a good hockey player, but his greatest value to society is in educating people that for offer sheet purposes, AAV is determined by dividing the total compensation offered by the lesser of the length of the contract, or by 5.
http://www.generalfanager.com/draftpicks/offersheets
http://www.generalfanager.com/draftpicks/offersheets
Right. Forgot about that.
Regardless, is there an offer sheet that they wouldn't match?
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Just feels like this is headed for the Turris scenario with that representation. Hold out for a trade based on not receiving prime time usage despite not being best option. Forced into a trade scenario of futures instead of immediate assets. On a team loaded with prospects not a ideal scenario.
I think he indicated the same thing last year. Why would Trouba believe him this year?
True but Trouba's representation has a history of playing that card to force a payday and/or trade.
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You'd have to definitely go over the 2 firsts 1 second 1 third limit, since Trouba wants a long term deal. But the most problematic offer sheet would probably be 2×6 or something. If you need an explanation, see O'Reilly, Ryan.
With a short window to make a living in hockey, isn't that his representatives job. Maximize income potential where the players at or find a better opportunity somewhere else. Take off the fan glasses and look at it from the player's side.
Why would Trouba want to sacrifice his potemtial by playing his offside, when there are better options. Limiting his PP opportunities, when there are better options. If TN thought Trouba was a #1 RD, they set themselves up for this by signing Buff.
I would imagine Trouba doesn't want to wait 3-5 years to be a #1 RD, if that's his ceiling, when there are better opportunities for him. Look at other young D in the league and the opportunities they have, Rielly, Linholm, Jones, ect. The list goes on. We can debate this all day long, but if Trouba thinks that that is his ceiling, then that's all that matters in a neigotiation process.
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Trouba did play a lot of last season on the top pairing with Byfuglien. The only problem is that he also played some with Stuart.
He probably doesn't want to play in Winnipeg for the next 5-8 years. He is forcing the Jets hand ala Dougie Hamilton.
Trouba will get traded and re-sign with team x for a lot less than people around here think.
Trouba will get traded and re-sign with team x for a lot less than people around here think.
You want him to pluck an rfa? Cause that would be awesome. We'll take a couple first round picks for our bottom pairing D
He's an rfa. He pretty much has no leverage at all here. Let's say we offer him 4 million a year for 6 years or something. If he doesn't want to sign that an team x offers him 4.5x6, we have the option to match still. If they go real crazy and offer him like 5x6, then we get like two first round picks as compensation... which most people would already see as an overpayment
JetsHomer
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Trouba is easily our second best defesemen and the Jets wouldn't let him go to an offer sheet unless it was four firsts.
Two firsts for Trouba and you think that's a good deal? Cmon man
I think he's easily our second or third best. He's coming off a garbage season though. If he's not deserving of a bridge deal then I'm not sure who is.
AZ fans went through this with Turris.im not sure how this doesn't end in a trade? Value AZ received was a A/A+ prospect (at the time even though he busted) and a 2nd. Other offers included a 1st rounder with lower thought of prospect.
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The above post has clearly not received enough attention in this thread. I've highlighted the key points.
1) Lawless chose to later clarify his words and state they weren't far apart, just apart; that is likely because it was since explicitly impressed upon him by the negotiating parties that the spread on the negotiation points is likely much closer than he portrayed them to be, that it isn't as if there exists any significant cultural divide.
2) The Jets have no intention of trading Trouba; self explanatory.
The reality is that Trouba is an RFA with no arbitration rights and little in the way of any leverage. They will most likely eventually come to a deal, just like all of the other unsigned RFAs' at present, and especially given these negotiations apparently are not as far apart as Lawless initially suggested - based upon his need to clarify his initial report.
JetsHomer
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Trouba was actually really good last year and is easily deserving of 6x5m. Didn't watch much Jets hockey last season I take it?
