Proposal: Trouba all encompassing trade thread

[BruinDust]

Well, this is a Winnipeg Jets trade thread.

Few months ago a Jets fan, completely seriously, said that he would only consider trading Trouba for McDavid and nothing else. Apparently the team is so stacked in every position that they don't need anyone but a McDavid.

This is a general trade board, your Winnipeg Jets board is that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[Satanphonehome]

So the Kane trade has effectively cost the Jets Trouba?

 

[howkie]

LOL no.

Every game Trouba doesn't play, his value keeps going down. Nothing like Jones and Johansen, both under contract when traded.

This is Dougie Hamilton but with even more pressure because Trouba's value goes down if he doesn't play.

Or value can increase when teams start getting desperat when season starts and their D fails. Jets are in no hurry, if they don´t get anything their like that can improve their team, why trade Trouba?

Why help improve another team while Jets don´t improve? If Trouba want to sit out, let him do that. He is the one losing money.

 

[Aceboogie]

Just like Kane was going to be traded and we'd be pissed at the return.

Just like we were going to be laughed at for expecting a 1st alone for Ladd, nevermind a plus.

*sigh*

This isn't a one on one negotiation, there will be multiple teams floating Chevy offers, and just like the TDL he'll get good value for Trouba.

I'm not expecting Provorov, or Drai, or anyone like that, but I won't be upset at the return, it will be a good one. Advanced stats guys think Trouba performs like a top pair, so i'll take their word for it.

Trouba has extremely meh or even poor advanced stats. And regressing every year with easier comp

 

[scan15*]

Toronto's first next year? Big risk. Could be a #1, could be a 10-12.

Toronto's 1st + Lupul

 

[Viqsi]

You get a cookie.

Yay!

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Trouba has extremely meh or even poor advanced stats. And regressing every year with easier comp

He's also kind of playing with horrible losers. Look at his WOWYs.

 

[HOPE]

i dont see why habs would be going for him having weber, petry and sergachev ( i know alot of people see serg going on the left side, but i would hate it considering he played all his junior RHD and won the Dman of the year.

Bringing trouba would need to have petry in the deal

 

[MardyBum]

Trouba has extremely meh or even poor advanced stats. And regressing every year with easier comp

http://jetsnation.ca/2016/6/6/don-t...you-trouba-has-been-getting-better-and-better

Regression doe.

 

[Ropesman]

Only difference with the Kane deal is that Kane wasn't holding out during training camp. He was still contributing on the ice, Trouba sitting at home is not a good situation for the Jets.

As I have said before there is no form of reality where the Jets get absolutely fleeced in a Trouba deal, but they won't get as much as they would of without this circus Trouba's agent is running.

RHD is such a sought after position teams will be lining up and there will be a deal to be made, it just won't be as good as it could of been.

 

[cobra427]

He outplays Murphy AND Stone easily, Spurgeon is close though. And it looks like I forgot which side Klingberg plays on. Happens.

Trouba does not outplay Murphy and Stone easily. Murphy and Stone are both top 4D but not top pairing D, just like Trouba. I do think Trouba will pair with OEL or Gogo, but also, Stone likely is moved. Stone has just a one year deal.

 

[Maukkis]

Trouba does not outplay Murphy and Stone easily. Murphy and Stone are both top 4D but not top pairing D, just like Trouba. I do think Trouba will pair with OEL or Gogo, but also, Stone likely is moved. Stone has just a one year deal.

Why are we taking Stone back? He's recovering just like Myers, and we have no control over him after this season. It's Murphy or Chychrun who has to go back. Most likely the latter.

 

[MardyBum]

Only difference with the Kane deal is that Kane wasn't holding out during training camp. He was still contributing on the ice, Trouba sitting at home is not a good situation for the Jets.

As I have said before there is no form of reality where the Jets get absolutely fleeced in a Trouba deal, but they won't get as much as they would of without this circus Trouba's agent is running.

RHD is such a sought after position teams will be lining up and there will be a deal to be made, it just won't be as good as it could of been.

Kane shut himself down, he wasnt playing hockey.

 

[Whileee]

Trouba has extremely meh or even poor advanced stats. And regressing every year with easier comp

Completely false.

 

[cobra427]

Why are we taking Stone back? He's recovering just like Myers, and we have no control over him after this season. It's Murphy or Chychrun who has to go back. Most likely the latter.

I'm not saying you would take Stone, just saying they likely move him, not sure of the destination, if they land Trouba. The Coyotes can't afford to pay Stone and Trouba what they both will want for a salary. Murphy just signed for under 4 mill for 6 years, so he won't be part of the trade. I could see Chycrun as part of the trade though.

 

[gwh]

In what universe do the Wild want a guy who has been asking a long term payday of 6M? When they already have plenty of Dmen of equal or better ability that make 4-5M? And all this for a cap strapped team?

Trouba simply isn't worth the trouble.

So you KNOW for sure that a 2nd pair D expects 6mil payday? Sounds very very unlikely, given that 6mil is in the range for 1st D in many teams.

Also we could flip one LHD for equal RHD anyday. The discussion is only about what is equal.


This trade won't happen, because:

1. Overhardt. Not sure how much Fletch would like another headache with the team, since he is trying to shed Kuemper right now.

2. Central rival. Our best improvement would be Jets completely dropping the ball on this, or having a 3 month holdout with Trouba.

 

[TyroneShoelaces]

Not sure if it was mentioned, too many pages for me to skim through. But would a Maatta for Trouba based deal be a reasonable trade?

 

[yababy]

No GM is trading for Trouba until they find out how much it'll cost to ink him

 

[MardyBum]

No GM is trading for Trouba until they find out how much it'll cost to ink him

Which they can.

 

[varano]

No GM is trading for Trouba until they find out how much it'll cost to ink him

Thanks captain obvious. For months he's been asking for 7 million a year.

 

[KGL]

Thanks captain obvious. For months he's been asking for 7 million a year.

From Winnipeg.

Will he be asking for the same amount in a more desirable position? Remains to be seen. I highly doubt he ends up signing for $7M wherever he goes though.

 

[varano]

From Winnipeg.

Will he be asking for the same amount in a more desirable position? Remains to be seen. I highly doubt he ends up signing for $7M wherever he goes though.

Wherever he goes...he's asking for 7 but a team will most likely get it done for 6 to 6.5

 

[KGL]

Wherever he goes...he's asking for 7 but a team will most likely get it done for 6 to 6.5

I'd even be surprised to see him sign for that much. Many of his comparables signed for around $5M. No reason for him to get $1M-$1.5M more than guys like Rielly, Jones, Hamilton, Faulk, etc.

 

[Maukkis]

Wherever he goes...he's asking for 7 but a team will most likely get it done for 6 to 6.5

"No negotiations have taken place in the last months."

There isn't any demands. You're wrong by a mile, just like everyone else who claimed to know better.

 

[belair]

But could they trade for him?

NJ- Don't have the depth on the LH side to offer a formible return. They have the cap space though. Unlikely.

BOS- Same thing as Jersey. No depth on the left side unless Morrow or Zboril is of any value to Winnipeg, which is unlikely. Maybe, but unlikely.

TOR- Starts with Gardiner. And unless it's Gardiner, they might have a difficult time negotiating a new contract considering where they're sitting financially. Unlikely.

PHI- Andrew MacDonald says they don't have the money to sign him. They do have the depth on the left side to offer up though. Unlikely.

ARI- It starts with Chychrun. But Chayka would have his work cut out for him moving bodies around on defense. Also of note, Michael Stone is from Winnipeg. But that doesn't matter, because he shoots right handed. Front-runner.

NYR- Unless the trade Ryan McDonaugh for him or use some jedi mind tricks to dump one of Staal or Girardi, that's a 'no'. No.

ANA- They already have a potential hold out in Rackell and an unsigned Lindholm. Pair that with an internal cap and Vatanen, Manson, Bieksa and Montour on the right side and it's pretty unlikely. Unlikely.

DAL- They have the need but not the LH depth nor the cap space avaliable to re-sign him. Unlikely.

MIN- They're already going to lose a good defenseman at expansion. Maybe they trade two of them to Winnipeg for one very good one. Dark-horse.

You can add Detroit as having interest in him and then immediately take them out of the mix due to their cap situation.

So I've got Arizona, Minnesota, Edmonton and Carolina as 'realistic' suitors. Teams that possess the LHD that Winnipeg is likely seeking, the available cap to sign Trouba and the need in the top 4 for a RHD. All of these currently without having to move a ton of pieces.

Who else can be added?

 

[MikeModano9]

"No negotiations have taken place in the last months."

There isn't any demands. You're wrong by a mile, just like everyone else who claimed to know better.

In Dec 2015 it was reported that Trouba's ask was $7M. So from December to May obviously negotiations weren't going well. Trouba saw the RD side still full and officially asked for a trade.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...jacob-trouba-free-agents-asking-term-million/