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Proposal: Trouba all encompassing trade thread - Part 2

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KGL said:
No, just speculation, although the speculation is also coming from NHL GM(s?) now. If he doesn't want to play in Canada I'm hoping Toronto is the exception to the rule due to it's proximity to Michigan.

Edit: A few names to scratch off the list of possible returns, but we already knew these three weren't going anywhere:

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so these 3 teams arent looking to do the jets a favor?
:)
 
From BOBBOP (an HF confirmed insider) stated the following on the Rangers board:

"Can confirm Arizona in deep on Trouba. They have a ton of forwards to trade but only quality young left side defenseman who might/might not figure here is first draft choice Jakob Chychrun. Goligoski has a NMC and OEL isn't going anywhere. One thing to keep in mind is that AZ has so many young forward prospects, they may be willing to deal from excess and overpay. The one thing working against AZ...Western Conference."
 
Hunter368 said:
From BOBBOP (an HF confirmed insider) stated the following on the Rangers board:

"Can confirm Arizona in deep on Trouba. They have a ton of forwards to trade but only quality young left side defenseman who might/might not figure here is first draft choice Jakob Chychrun. Goligoski has a NMC and OEL isn't going anywhere. One thing to keep in mind is that AZ has so many young forward prospects, they may be willing to deal from excess and overpay. The one thing working against AZ...Western Conference."
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Chychrun + Dvorak for Trouba
 
Empoleon8771 said:
The Jets have very little leverage in trade negotiations and they don't have much with Trouba either. Trouba sitting out hurts the Jets more than it hurts him IMO. Trouba will still get a big payday whenever the Jets decide to move him (or he can sign an offersheet and refuse to report if the Jets match it). The longer Trouba's holdout happens, the more the Jets will fall in the standings.
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He loses more than he does sitting out unsigned if he signs an offer sheet and then refuses to report to the team he's under contract with. If he doesn't report, he doesn't get paid, and gets fined.
 
KGL said:
No, just speculation, although the speculation is also coming from NHL GM(s?) now. If he doesn't want to play in Canada I'm hoping Toronto is the exception to the rule due to it's proximity to Michigan.

Edit: A few names to scratch off the list of possible returns, but we already knew these three weren't going anywhere:

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Surprised that was even tweeted. Obviously we aren't trading Lindholm to the jets when our biggest need is left wing. We don't need trouba one bit
 
RamsNducks said:
Surprised that was even tweeted. Obviously we aren't trading Lindholm to the jets when our biggest need is left wing. We don't need trouba one bit
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Sometimes the obvious has to be stated, because several fans were daydreaming.
 
Avs44 said:
Sometimes the obvious has to be stated, because several fans were daydreaming.
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I agree that a trade is unlikely; however, the determining factor would be why the Ducks have not signed Lindholm already. If Lindholm was already signed by the Ducks the chances of a trade with Winnipeg is zero.

Everyone is speculating here and there is several scenarios that could result in an eventual trade between Winnipeg and the Ducks. The ducks do not want to trade Lindholm; however, if his ask is too high and they can negotiate a lower price for trouba and the jets are will to pay the higher price (doubtful) for lindholm the two teams may look at it as a win win.

Until Lindholm signs on the dotted line with the ducks or Trouba is traded to another team (or changes his mind and signs with the jets) it is still possible despite what the so called insiders say.


personally, I would prefer if trouba would see the light and change his mind and stay with the jets
 
I guess the Drouin rumours have settled down quite a bit and he seems willing to play there now, but I wonder if something around Drouin for Trouba could make sense.
 
Anyone who has a defenceman that is comparable to Trouba, will not trade them for Trouba. Chevy is an idiot if he thinks he will find a trading partner for a trade like that.
 
mcjukon said:
Anyone who has a defenceman that is comparable to Trouba, will not trade them for Trouba. Chevy is an idiot if he thinks he will find a trading partner for a trade like that.
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It's starting point. He starts out high and eventually will get negotiated down to what he would actually accept for him. If someone bites on his high ask then it's just a bonus.
 
Empoleon8771 said:
How so? The Jets gain absolutely nothing from Trouba holding out and Trouba has publicly demanded a trade. To say the Jets have all of the leverage is just laughable. They only recent situation where the team holding the player had less leverage than the Jets have with Trouba was with Nash in Columbus.
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The thing is Trouba is already not playing for the Jets.

If he keeps sitting, they lose nothing, because they don't have him right now.

If he keeps sitting, Trouba stands to lose a lot.

The Jets are going to get value for him or not trade him.

They have the leverage regardless of Overhardt and Trouba's attempt to gain it by going public.

It's not at all similar to Nash. Not even a little.
 
mcjukon said:
Anyone who has a defenceman that is comparable to Trouba, will not trade them for Trouba. Chevy is an idiot if he thinks he will find a trading partner for a trade like that.
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Trouba is essentially penciled in as a top 2 D for the Jets. So it's not hard to see why they would want a similar player back. Someone who is young fits the build the team is on. If all they are going to get back for him is a 2nd or 3rd pairing guy or prospects, why not just deal from their position of strength (a wing prospect) and let Trouba sit?

Sure you can say, but then you are getting essentially nothing for Trouba, but maybe it's worth picking up his return another way and not having to go against him in the future.

Chevy and Trouba are headed towards a staring match and it's only Troubas career on the line.
 
North said:
The thing is Trouba is already not playing for the Jets.

If he keeps sitting, they lose nothing, because they don't have him right now.
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They lose what they would get for him in trade... at least for the games that are played until a trade happens.

Scenario 1: They ADD a useful piece to the roster via trade that can immediately help them win and make the playoffs

Scenario 2: The "value" of Trouba sits on the sidelines as he remains both unsigned and untraded

Those two scenarios are not equivalent, there IS a difference in immediate value to the Jets.
 
mcjukon said:
Anyone who has a defenceman that is comparable to Trouba, will not trade them for Trouba. Chevy is an idiot if he thinks he will find a trading partner for a trade like that.
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It's been said numerous times in this thread just like you put it. And yes chevy isn't in his right mind if he's expecting that type of return
 
MikeRahl said:
Trouba is essentially penciled in as a top 2 D for the Jets. So it's not hard to see why they would want a similar player back. Someone who is young fits the build the team is on. If all they are going to get back for him is a 2nd or 3rd pairing guy or prospects, why not just deal from their position of strength (a wing prospect) and let Trouba sit?

Sure you can say, but then you are getting essentially nothing for Trouba, but maybe it's worth picking up his return another way and not having to go against him in the future.

Chevy and Trouba are headed towards a staring match and it's only Troubas career on the line.
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Trouba has his whole career ahead of him and will be a solid defenseman for another team. It's Chevy who is on the hot seat definitely not Trouba.
 
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