Proposal: Trouba all encompassing trade thread - Part 2

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

What's the incentive for the Rangers to trade the better player who is likely to be cheaper for the next 3 years?

Well if they want Trouba then they've no other choice, Considering that the Rangers don't have any other decent LHD other then McDonagh that Cheveldayoff would be interested in.

 

[McDLT]

Jets should just keep let him rot for the year. Send a message to rest of the RFAs

In the last 72 hours I have moved from the "trade him quickly" to the "let him rot" camp. Hopefully Chevy decides to send a message.

Edit: Overhardt's interview was the cause of this change.

 

[Trxjw]

Well if they want Trouba then they've no other choice, Considering that the Rangers don't have any other decent LHD other then McDonagh that Cheveldayoff would be interested in.

How do you know?

 

[Liferleafer]

Well if they want Trouba then they've no other choice, Considering that the Rangers don't have any other decent LHD other then McDonagh that Cheveldayoff would be interested in.

So the only choice is to trade a better player to get unsigned Trouba? Doesn't seem like a smart choice...

 

[Kiwi]

Being a metro Detroit kid, you'd think the Red Wings would be a candidate. He's from Rochester, MI. Although, that's only like a 5 hr drive by car from Toronto too.....

I think the biggest problem that is being encountered when discussing a trade for a guy like this (wanting $6M/yr?) is how many teams (that have a realistic chance at landing him/will he want to play there) actually have the cap space. I'm sure the Jets aren't going to take a cap dump in return.

The Leafs are close but if he wants to be in the US that rules us out and we are one of the few teams with the abiliy to take his contract on and have the assets to get him
Wings have forwards but lack D for a deal
Rangers lack assets unless Mc D Is on the table
Sabres and Devils don't seem to be mentioned much and lack quality Dmen to make a deal
Flyers could be interesting but lack cap space
Boston has assets but need D as bad as the Jets

There are not a lot of really good opinions out there unless Trouba resigns with the Jets and then they move him
That opens up some serious opinions

 

[mondo3]

If Arizona is in the mix as some people say, then I'll add a prospect:

Bos Krug
Car Hanifin
Cbj Murray, Werenski
Nyi Hamonic (supposedly can play LD)
Nyr McDonagh
Pit Maatta
Tor Gardiner (but would Trouba sign in Canada?)
Ana Lindholm, Fowler (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Cgy Giordano (unrealistic imo)
Edm Klefbom (but would Trouba sign in Canada?), Nurse (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Min Brodin (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Van Tanev (not popular choice by wpg fans)
LA Muzzin
Ari Chychrun (but not ready to play this season)

 

[GoJetsGo55]

So the only choice is to trade a better player to get unsigned Trouba? Doesn't seem like a smart choice...

You act as if there is no benefit to them for making that trade.

Trouba is younger and can be controlled for longer....and it's not like he peaked.

 

[LTIR]

In the last 72 hours I have moved from the "trade him quickly" to the "let him rot" camp. Hopefully Chevy decides to send a message.

Edit: Overhardt's interview was the cause of this change.

If the Jets leave him unsigned can they use that cap space to bring in an Ehrhoff or Russell?

 

[Liferleafer]

You act as if there is no benefit to them for making that trade.

Trouba is younger and can be controlled for longer....and it's not like he peaked.

McDonagh is signed for 3 more years at 4.7....Trouba wants more than that now, and McDonagh is on another level skill wise.

 

[lomiller1]

What difference does it make? Trouba doesn't get to decide where he goes. This isn't one of those NTC/NMC situations where a player can veto a trade if he doesn't like the destination. He doesn't get to give Winnipeg a list of places he can't get traded to.

He’s unsigned, he can do exactly what he’s doing now and refuse to sign with the new team.

Not only that, but it isn't like the teams trying to acquire him get to negotiate a contract first. So how is he going to stop someone from offering Winnipeg a fair trade

He isn’t under contract, teams can negotiate with him all they want and his agent can look for trade options with that team. The Jets don’t have to accept the trade of course.

I don't think the speculation that he doesn't want to, or will not, play for a Canadian team is absolutely bogus!

No more or less bogus than him refusing to sign with the Jets in the first place.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

McDonagh is signed for 3 more years at 4.7....Trouba wants more than that now, and McDonagh is on another level skill wise.

Oh whoops. I thought he had 2 years left.

 

[Crede777]

He can wait, but Trouba's trade value goes down, not up. If he sits, his trade value goes down more and if he sits out a year, even more. The longer Chevy waits, the worse the return will be. from now until October 15th will be the time Chevy gets best value, after that value will get worse, just the way it works. Chevy knows this and will likely make a trade in the next week or so.

Columbus sat on Ryan Johansen and eventually got him to sign. Then Columbus later traded him for Seth Jones which is about even value.

In fact, it seems like more and more teams are willing to sit on their restricted free agents and aren't seeing any loss in value for it.

 

[Purity*]

You could build your defense around trouba and rielly for the next ten years. Gardner is a decent too four who can put up points. I'm sorry but I think you're mistaken about this one.

Trouba's cap hit is the main problem.

It's too premature of a trade for the Leafs. I know for a fact that there would have to be some +'s added to Gardiner to make the trade.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

their is a very good chance that his preferred market preference will limit potential suitors way more than Chevys demand for a young impact LT shot dman will

players dictate where they will accept being traded to OR signing long term with way more than we as fans wish to think

travis hamonic just last year tried to limit it to 4 teams in western canada, kesler would only go to california, loungo only florida, nash no cdn markets, etc etc

trouba could try and limit it to michigan(and nearby) and of course Chevy can say get lost but he can not force trouba to sign long term and thus effect his return value

ahh maybe i am just making this up hoping he comes home to detroit

 

[GoJetsGo55]

their is a very good chance that his preferred market preference will limit potential suitors way more than Chevys demand for a young impact LT shot dman will

players dictate where they will accept being traded to OR signing long term with way more than we as fans wish to think

travis hamonic just last year tried to limit it to 4 teams in western canada

trouba could try and limit it to michigan(and nearby) and of course Chevy can say get lost but he can not force trouba to sign longterm and thus effect his return value

ahh maybe i am just making this up hoping he comes home to detroit

Yeah good luck with that lol.

Sitting out a year and being no further ahead will change his mind pretty quick.

 

[slapshot30003]

Trouba to Chicago in blockbuster deal

Chicago Gets: Trouba and Connor
Winnipeg gets: Panarian and Forsling

This is a win/win in all ways. Panarian is aking for too much and Chicago cannot afford, but they do need established youth at defense. They also get connor which motte and him would gel instantly.

Winnipeg gets several things. Much needed offense, as well as a left handed defensive prospect. Plus Panarian will look very nice along side Laine.

Thoughts?

 

[Whileee]

Blockbuster?

To NYR: Trouba, Dano

To Jets: Lindholm, NYR 1st round pick (2017)

To Ana: McDonagh, Connor

Rangers get a young stud D to build around, along with a good, cheap young forward to strengthen their top-9.

Jets get a top-pairing LHD and a futures, while giving up two very good forward prospects, which is a position of strength.

Anaheim, in "win now" mode, gets a top-pairing LHD in his prime at a very reasonable cap hit to step into Lindholm's role along with a potential scoring star forward on his ELC. The cap space likely allows them to re-sign Rakell.

(Note: McDonagh has a M-NTC, so probably won't permit a direct trade to Winnipeg. But he would likely be happy with a trade to Anaheim, including willingness to sign long-term after current contract).

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Chicago Gets: Trouba and Connor
Winnipeg gets: Panarian and Forsling

This is a win/win in all ways. Panarian is aking for too much and Chicago cannot afford, but they do need established youth at defense. They also get connor which motte and him would gel instantly.

Winnipeg gets several things. Much needed offense, as well as a left handed defensive prospect. Plus Panarian will look very nice along side Laine.

Thoughts?

Is Panarian a LD?

 

[Whileee]

Chicago Gets: Trouba and Connor
Winnipeg gets: Panarian and Forsling

This is a win/win in all ways. Panarian is aking for too much and Chicago cannot afford, but they do need established youth at defense. They also get connor which motte and him would gel instantly.

Winnipeg gets several things. Much needed offense, as well as a left handed defensive prospect. Plus Panarian will look very nice along side Laine.

Thoughts?

The very last thing the Jets need is a scoring winger. Really bad fit.

 

[SCP Guy]

Columbus sat on Ryan Johansen and eventually got him to sign. Then Columbus later traded him for Seth Jones which is about even value.

In fact, it seems like more and more teams are willing to sit on their restricted free agents and aren't seeing any loss in value for it.

That is how I see this playing out also....

Trouba won't be a jet for 7 years

But he will not be traded in the next few weeks either

They are going to sit him.....he will crack sign short term and report.....play and then get traded

 

[Draiskull]

their is a very good chance that his preferred market preference will limit potential suitors way more than Chevys demand for a young impact LT shot dman will

players dictate where they will accept being traded to OR signing long term with way more than we as fans wish to think

travis hamonic just last year tried to limit it to 4 teams in western canada, kesler would only go to california, loungo only florida, nash no cdn markets, etc etc

trouba could try and limit it to michigan(and nearby) and of course Chevy can say get lost but he can not force trouba to sign long term and thus effect his return value

ahh maybe i am just making this up hoping he comes home to detroit

sorry but 22YO RFAs hardly have that kind of leverage. Trouba just needs to suck it up for now. Trouba, Turris, Dubinsky all troubled and all with the same agent.
Trouba will eventually get traded like the other 2 clients of Overhardt but it wouldnt be pretty.

 

[Draiskull]

Is Panarian a LD?

Can Hamonic play LD? Thats one guy who actually wanted to play for the Jets. You shouldnt pass up on such guys.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Yeah good luck with that lol.

Sitting out a year and being no further ahead will change his mind pretty quick.

to be fair, apart from yashin 17 years ago, when was the last time a team made a player sit out an entire year AND then didnt trade him anyways?

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

sorry but 22YO RFAs hardly have that kind of leverage. Trouba just needs to suck it up for now. Trouba, Turris, Dubinsky all troubled and all with the same agent.
Trouba will eventually get traded like the other 2 clients of Overhardt but it wouldnt be pretty.

I sure hope the return for trouba isnt the same as turris... 0 current nhl players 3 years later, that was an atrocious decision by arizona

nobody can make any player sign longterm, rfa or not

 

[bigdog16]

Lundqvist McD for Trouba Hellebuyck and 2nd