Proposal: Trouba all encompassing trade thread - Part 2

[VanJack]

Bob Mackenzie on the radio today saying the Jets need an impact, left-hand shooting d-man back in any trade.....they don't need wingers or right-side d-men....so that severely restricts the market.....however the difference between Trouba and the Evander Kane situations in the 'Peg is that Trouba is an RFA without a contract....that means that if he isn't traded or signed before Dec. 1, he can't play in the NHL this season...so the clock is ticking.

 

[umwoz]

Bob Mackenzie on the radio today saying the Jets need an impact, left-hand shooting d-man back in any trade.....they don't need wingers or right-side d-men....so that severely restricts the market.....however the difference between Trouba and the Evander Kane situations in the 'Peg is that Trouba is an RFA without a contract....that means that if he isn't traded or signed before Dec. 1, he can't play in the NHL this season...so the clock is ticking.

I still think there's something to be said for this being opinion.

Mackenzie is correct that they need a LHD. But they need one back in THIS trade.... that's his opinion.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Ya that's too much. I like Trouba. I think his upside is still real but given his attitude (he may not be a problem child but he is a little self entitled with the trade request/contract demands) there's some risk involved and I honestly don't think if he's expecting more money than Reilly that he's worth it and potentially that much better than Gardiner @ 4mil. Change the 1st to a 2nd and I'd probably do it just cause having an elite guy to play 1st paring right side with Reilly would be worth a slight overpayment.

Drop Soshnikov from the offer. He's not what Jets need anyway.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Would Avs have any interest in Trouba for Tyson Barrie, I know rumors were that Avs management were trying to get something done involving Trouba & Barrie in the offseason. Barrie is a little bit older but I would do a 1 for 1 swap for Trouba and Barrie

Does Barrie play left side?

 

[tempest2i]

I'm not about to read 22 pages of this thread so forgive me if this has been said and or beaten to death...and give me credit that I'm not throwing a crappy Bruins offer at this thread like I would love to do...

What about something like Trouba to EDM for Nurse + Klefbom?

I know there isn't an immediate top pairing guy or even a top 4 guy if you want to argue that, but A) the potential is there on both to be top 4 guys B) I know what Chevy has stated he wants but GMs rarely get exactly what they ask for and it's pretty close

For a variety of reasons, no.

 

[Liferleafer]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1903095

Post #12
I am outta here
Good evening guys and gals

Fair enough...but that post says you can post your sources....so?

Also, i'm assuming the Rangers then?

 

[Trxjw]

Fair enough...but that post says you can post your sources....so?

He's been vetted so he doesn't have to post his sources. Nothing a source loves more than being outed on a message board, right?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Fair enough...but that post says you can post your sources....so?

Where does it say that? It says they can post RUMORs from their sources. It doesn't say they can, or are required to post their sources since they've been vetted behind the scenes. Unless I'm reading it wrong.

 

[mondo3]

If Chevy insists on a getting an approximately equivalent LD in return as the primary part in a trade, these are most of the ones discussed in the forum. Of course for most of these players, there would have to be additional players/picks moving one way or the other.

Bos Krug
Car Hanifin
Cbj Murray, Werenski
Nyi Hamonic (supposedly can play LD)
Nyr McDonagh
Pit Maatta
Tor Gardiner (but would Trouba sign in Canada?)
Ana Lindholm, Fowler (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Cgy Giordano (unrealistic imo)
Edm Klefbom (but would Trouba sign in Canada?), Nurse (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Min Brodin (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Van Tanev (not popular choice by wpg fans)
LA Muzzin

 

[Liferleafer]

Where does it say that? It says they can post RUMORs from their sources. It doesn't say they can, or are required to post their sources since they've been vetted behind the scenes. Unless I'm reading it wrong.

Sorry to both...i misread that...my bad.

 

[Liferleafer]

If Chevy insists on a getting an approximately equivalent LD in return as the primary part in a trade, these are most of the ones discussed in the forum:

Bos Krug
Car Hanifin
Cbj Murray, Werenski
Nyi Hamonic (supposedly can play LD)
Nyr McDonagh
Pit Maatta
Tor Gardiner (but would Trouba sign in Canada?)
Ana Lindholm, Fowler (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Cgy Giordano (unrealistic imo)
Edm Klefbom (but would Trouba sign in Canada?), Nurse (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Min Brodin (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Van Tanev (not popular choice by wpg fans)
LA Muzzin

It seems you can count us out.

 

[cobra427]

Actually, his best option is to wait and see how the year progresses. You never know what will happen between now and Dec 1 and a very good deal may come along. It may even take years to make the trade (see Kane) so Trouba has a choice to play hockey with the Jets or sit out until a trade may be made.

He can wait, but Trouba's trade value goes down, not up. If he sits, his trade value goes down more and if he sits out a year, even more. The longer Chevy waits, the worse the return will be. from now until October 15th will be the time Chevy gets best value, after that value will get worse, just the way it works. Chevy knows this and will likely make a trade in the next week or so.

 

[mondo3]

It seems you can count us out.

It depends upon the real reason he wants to leave wpg...if he wants more $$ or doesn't like the city then maybe TO would work, but if he wants to be in the US, then you are correct. This does seem to be the most repeated of all the trade offers though.

 

[SCP Guy]

He can wait, but Trouba's trade value goes down, not up. If he sits, his trade value goes down more and if he sits out a year, even more. The longer Chevy waits, the worse the return will be. from now until October 15th will be the time Chevy gets best value, after that value will get worse, just the way it works. Chevy knows this and will likely make a trade in the next week or so.

Well he can sit this year....Then he has to decide to play hockey in the NHL again....sign a bride play well value will go back up then get traded...just depends if he wants to throw a way a year and a few mil in the process....

 

[Sweetpotato]

I'm not about to read 22 pages of this thread so forgive me if this has been said and or beaten to death...and give me credit that I'm not throwing a crappy Bruins offer at this thread like I would love to do...

What about something like Trouba to EDM for Nurse + Klefbom?

I know there isn't an immediate top pairing guy or even a top 4 guy if you want to argue that, but A) the potential is there on both to be top 4 guys B) I know what Chevy has stated he wants but GMs rarely get exactly what they ask for and it's pretty close

Klefbom is better and has the better contract(most likely) than Trouba, adding Nurse is just the cherry on top of a trade i wouldnt do straight up.

Itd have to be Nurse+ or there really isnt a deal. WPG isnt interested in our wingers nor are we trading one of our 3 young centers for a dman without a contract and they arent exactly in the drivers seat in this situation and while Trouba is great hes not passing Larsson for top pairing duty so its probably not ideal for his party either.

 

[Kiwi]

If Chevy insists on a getting an approximately equivalent LD in return as the primary part in a trade, these are most of the ones discussed in the forum. Of course for most of these players, there would have to be additional players/picks moving one way or the other.

Bos Krug
Car Hanifin
Cbj Murray, Werenski
Nyi Hamonic (supposedly can play LD)
Nyr McDonagh
Pit Maatta
Tor Gardiner (but would Trouba sign in Canada?)
Ana Lindholm, Fowler (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Cgy Giordano (unrealistic imo)
Edm Klefbom (but would Trouba sign in Canada?), Nurse (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Min Brodin (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Van Tanev (not popular choice by wpg fans)
LA Muzzin

If the not playing in Canada thing is true and he wants to be close to home (North East USA ) and is going to make it hard to be traded anywhere else getting full value for him maybe easier said than done
If these restrictions are true it seriously limits the amount of potential trade partners for the Jets especially if they are after a specific return (LD)

 

[djdub]

Conspiracy theory time...

Is it possible Chiarelli and McLellan conspired to play Trouba as the 7th D-Man in the WCH to allow the optics of Trouba "not being that good" to spread league wide essentially lowering his value in an eventual trade? It's not like it would have major effect on trade negotiations, but it's something Chiarelli may have done to allow other GM's to say "He was only used as the 7th DMan at the WCH" when Chevy said, "He's one of the best young DMen in the game".

I didn't think much of it at the time when he was being used as the 7th D-Man when Ekblad was playing. But I did pause and say "WTF Trouba should definitely being playing over atleast one of these guys".

 

[LMFAO]

If Chevy insists on a getting an approximately equivalent LD in return as the primary part in a trade, these are most of the ones discussed in the forum. Of course for most of these players, there would have to be additional players/picks moving one way or the other.

Bos Krug
Car Hanifin
Cbj Murray, Werenski
Nyi Hamonic (supposedly can play LD)
Nyr McDonagh
Pit Maatta
Tor Gardiner (but would Trouba sign in Canada?)
Ana Lindholm, Fowler (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Cgy Giordano (unrealistic imo)
Edm Klefbom (but would Trouba sign in Canada?), Nurse (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Min Brodin (not popular choice by wpg fans)
Van Tanev (not popular choice by wpg fans)
LA Muzzin

From that List I'd say that

Brodin ++ for Trouba seems like the most likely deal.

 

[Cams]

If the not playing in Canada thing is true and he wants to be close to home (North East USA ) and is going to make it hard to be traded anywhere else getting full value for him maybe easier said than done
If these restrictions are true it seriously limits the amount of potential trade partners for the Jets especially if they are after a specific return (LD)

Being a metro Detroit kid, you'd think the Red Wings would be a candidate. He's from Rochester, MI. Although, that's only like a 5 hr drive by car from Toronto too.....

I think the biggest problem that is being encountered when discussing a trade for a guy like this (wanting $6M/yr?) is how many teams (that have a realistic chance at landing him/will he want to play there) actually have the cap space. I'm sure the Jets aren't going to take a cap dump in return.

 

[Liferleafer]

Conspiracy theory time...

Is it possible Chiarelli and McLellan conspired to play Trouba as the 7th D-Man in the WCH to allow the optics of Trouba "not being that good" to spread league wide essentially lowering his value in an eventual trade? It's not like it would have major effect on trade negotiations, but it's something Chiarelli may have done to allow other GM's to say "He was only used as the 7th DMan at the WCH" when Chevy said, "He's one of the best young DMen in the game".

I didn't think much of it at the time when he was being used as the 7th D-Man when Ekblad was playing. But I did pause and say "WTF Trouba should definitely being playing over atleast one of these guys".

If you want to believe in conspiracy...maybe the fact he was paired with Rielly might be something.....but alas, Toronto is "not in the mix".

 

[Leafidelity]

It seems you can count us out.

Hope not. Haven't seen a better opportunity to get Rielly a long term partner.

 

[LTIR]

Conspiracy theory time...

Is it possible Chiarelli and McLellan conspired to play Trouba as the 7th D-Man in the WCH to allow the optics of Trouba "not being that good" to spread league wide essentially lowering his value in an eventual trade? It's not like it would have major effect on trade negotiations, but it's something Chiarelli may have done to allow other GM's to say "He was only used as the 7th DMan at the WCH" when Chevy said, "He's one of the best young DMen in the game".

I didn't think much of it at the time when he was being used as the 7th D-Man when Ekblad was playing. But I did pause and say "WTF Trouba should definitely being playing over atleast one of these guys".

Maybe Mclellan was paid off by Jets and kept Trouba out to lower his contract demands. Who knows... 7D = 4M\yr

 

[Brock Radunske]

People here were asking for the McKenzie quote so I posted it. I did not say that the article excluded Toronto. That I got from elsewhere. And no, I am not at liberty to elaborate further

You're cleared to speak about the Rangers, not the Leafs.
Sauce or it didn't happen.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

So lets go down a rabbit hole a little bit and say that this dude is legit with his sources.

That puts the list at:
ARI
DET
BOS
NYR

I don't see what DET can offer in the way of LHD so they seem the least likely to me.
BOS has Krug
NYR has Mr. McD
ARI has.....a lot of LHD PROSPECTS I believe but nothing that's really NHL ready now.


P.S. If I am probing too deep, just tell me the ****. I am not looking to get anyone in trouble. I just NEED information because it's killing me lol.

And i doubt that Boston would do a Krug for Trouba deal seeing that Krug is an offensive D man and it's a lateral move at best Boston dealing Krug for Trouba doesn't help their cause and neither would the Rangers doing McDonagh for Trouba so Boston and the Rangers aren't any better as well.

 

[LTIR]

Bob Mackenzie on the radio today saying the Jets need an impact, left-hand shooting d-man back in any trade.....they don't need wingers or right-side d-men....so that severely restricts the market.....however the difference between Trouba and the Evander Kane situations in the 'Peg is that Trouba is an RFA without a contract....that means that if he isn't traded or signed before Dec. 1, he can't play in the NHL this season...so the clock is ticking.

Jets should just keep let him rot for the year. Send a message to rest of the RFAs