Proposal: Trouba all encompassing trade thread - Part 2

[spaghtti]

Would Avs have any interest in Trouba for Tyson Barrie, I know rumors were that Avs management were trying to get something done involving Trouba & Barrie in the offseason. Barrie is a little bit older but I would do a 1 for 1 swap for Trouba and Barrie

Barrie is not the LHD you are looking for

 

[Avs44]

Would Avs have any interest in Trouba for Tyson Barrie, I know rumors were that Avs management were trying to get something done involving Trouba & Barrie in the offseason. Barrie is a little bit older but I would do a 1 for 1 swap for Trouba and Barrie

Wouldn't touch it. Barrie back then didn't have a contract, he was going to arbitration, Roy may have not liked him for all we know (at the very least Roy wanted significant roster changes), and the likes of Bob McKenzie reported that they believed Barrie was going to be traded. Now it's the other way around...The Jets' player isn't signed as the pre-seasons begins, he's requested a trade, Roy is gone, Barrie is signed to a nice deal, and the Avs roster is about set. The situation is completely different from back then.

 

[LeapOnOver]

Wouldn't touch it. Barrie back then didn't have a contract, he was going to arbitration, Roy may have not liked him for all we know (at the very least Roy wanted significant roster changes), and the likes of Bob McKenzie reported that they believed Barrie was going to be traded. Now it's the other way around...The Jets' player isn't signed as the pre-seasons begins, he's requested a trade, Roy is gone, Barrie is signed to a nice deal, and the Avs roster is about set. The situation is completely different from back then.

My condolences.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Jake Gardiner
2017 2nd round pick
Connor Carrick/Viktor Loov


Jacob Trouba
Any short term bad contract


This trade would set up some nice LHD depth for the jets, Carrick can move the puck well and would be a nice bottom pairing dman or if you guys preferred a bigger, hard nosed dman, that plays psychical Loov is also an option. Gardiner is the main piece coming back, and a 2nd round pick this year which is likely going to be in the 30-40 range, early seconds have historically yielded similar results to a late 1st round pick, so theres a lot of extra value there. As if the pot wasn't sweetened the Leafs also take a bad contract there way.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Brady Skjei and JT Miller for Jacob Trouba?

 

[Avs44]

My condolences.

Witty, but a basic understanding of the Avs would have indicated to you this is a developmental year for the Avs. Clearly that understanding is lacking.

 

[Ciao]

Jake Gardiner
2017 2nd round pick
Connor Carrick/Viktor Loov


Jacob Trouba
Any short term bad contract


This trade would set up some nice LHD depth for the jets, Carrick can move the puck well and would be a nice bottom pairing dman or if you guys preferred a bigger, hard nosed dman, that plays psychical Loov is also an option. Gardiner is the main piece coming back, and a 2nd round pick this year which is likely going to be in the 30-40 range, early seconds have historically yielded similar results to a late 1st round pick, so theres a lot of extra value there. As if the pot wasn't sweetened the Leafs also take a bad contract there way.

Nah.

I'm a Leafs fan. I'm not saying he's this or that, but I really enjoy watching Jake Gardiner play. He is a superb skater in a skating league. He seems to be coachable, and is developing nicely under an excellent coach. And he' s under contract.

I don't really know what Jacob Trouba is. If he sits and Morrissey plays it says on the Jets boards that he might become the fifth-best defenceman on the Jets.

I don't really know where Trouba would fit on the Leafs depth chart at this time next year, and I have no interest in the Leafs overpaying to get his rights.

Then there's his contract, his agent and his me-first attitude. Pass.

 

[howkie]

Nah.

I'm a Leafs fan. I'm not saying he's this or that, but I really enjoy watching Jake Gardiner play. He is a superb skater in a skating league. He seems to be coachable, and is developing nicely under an excellent coach. And he' s under contract.

I don't really know what Jacob Trouba is. If he sits and Morrissey plays it says on the Jets boards that he might become the fifth-best defenceman on the Jets.

I don't really know where Trouba would fit on the Leafs depth chart at this time next year, and I have no interest in the Leafs overpaying to get his rights.

Then there's his contract, his agent and his me-first attitude. Pass.

Thing is, the contract is not the problem, cuz before you even make the trade the team will know what contract Trouba wants, aka if his demand is outrages you don´t make the trade. So if Leafs make the trade, a contract is already sorted and will be signed within hours after the trade.
But this is also the biggest concern for Trouba and Kurt O, if Jets don´t trade him before the season starts, teams that are intressted in Trouba can put preasure. Like " We will trade for you if you agree to this contract, if not, good luck". Meaning he maybe will get offers below his market value, and loosing money...
I think this time Kurts tactic failed, it worked in Jackets since jackets had no real first line center, Jets have better depth at D then Jackets had at C, at that time...

I don´t see Jets are in a hurry here..

 

[klozge]

Would Avs have any interest in Trouba for Tyson Barrie, I know rumors were that Avs management were trying to get something done involving Trouba & Barrie in the offseason. Barrie is a little bit older but I would do a 1 for 1 swap for Trouba and Barrie

I'd absolutely do that trade.

 

[Ducksgo*]

I'd absolutely do that trade.

As a neutral fan? Barrie is a long time Ave. Not every day you run into a Barrie. No way avalanche trades Barrie

 

[Liferleafer]

Jake Gardiner
2017 2nd round pick
Connor Carrick/Viktor Loov


Jacob Trouba
Any short term bad contract


This trade would set up some nice LHD depth for the jets, Carrick can move the puck well and would be a nice bottom pairing dman or if you guys preferred a bigger, hard nosed dman, that plays psychical Loov is also an option. Gardiner is the main piece coming back, and a 2nd round pick this year which is likely going to be in the 30-40 range, early seconds have historically yielded similar results to a late 1st round pick, so theres a lot of extra value there. As if the pot wasn't sweetened the Leafs also take a bad contract there way.

A little to much for this Leafs fan.

 

[Liferleafer]

As a Leafs fan, I'd do something like:

• Gardiner
• 1st (top 3 protected in 2017, then unprotected)
• Soshnikov

I'm sure Winnipeg fans prefer a "star for star, straight up" type deal, but GMs often like "quality for quantity" deals a lot more than fans do, and I think this one has solid value. Not sure if it'd be the top offer Winnipeg would actually receive in the real world, but it'd be close.

Jesus Christ! Are you nuts? Our 1st is not on the table....rebuilding...remember? Not to mention that is an insane overpayment for a guy asking for more money than Rielly.

 

[maplejays62]

Trouba to the Leafs

These trade proposal's were on the Fansided site

Leafs get Jacob Trouba
Jets get JVR, Connor Carrick and a 2nd in 2017

Leafs get Jacob Trouba
Jets get Gardiner, C. Carrick and K. Kapenen

Leafs get Jacob Trouba
Jets get M. Marner and a 2nd in 2017

Leafs get J. Trouba, E. Comrie, D. Stafford
Jets get JVR, C. Carrick, K. Kapenen. M. Marincin and a 2nd rounder in 2017

Being a Leafs fan I would love the last one. Let the discussion begin.

 

[Liferleafer]

To much going from TO....and the Jets will want a better LHD, and they really don't need more wingers.

 

[kelsier]

Jake Gardiner
2017 2nd round pick
Connor Carrick/Viktor Loov


Jacob Trouba
Any short term bad contract


This trade would set up some nice LHD depth for the jets, Carrick can move the puck well and would be a nice bottom pairing dman or if you guys preferred a bigger, hard nosed dman, that plays psychical Loov is also an option. Gardiner is the main piece coming back, and a 2nd round pick this year which is likely going to be in the 30-40 range, early seconds have historically yielded similar results to a late 1st round pick, so theres a lot of extra value there. As if the pot wasn't sweetened the Leafs also take a bad contract there way.

I've seen maybe one Gardiner deal here that's not insulting towards the Jets. This doesn't differentiate itself from that category. Trouba is younger and looks to be much better than Gardiner so there's no way Jets would pull the trigger. Meanwhile Gardiner is being thrown around as one of the pieces in about half of the trades involving around the Leafs. We've seen the market value for a young future first pairing defender and that's not second pairing defender, prospect and 2nd round pick. Quantity doesn't land quality and you need to give in order to get.

 

[Liferleafer]

I've seen maybe one Gardiner deal here that's not insulting towards the Jets. This doesn't differentiate itself from that category. Trouba is younger and looks to be much better than Gardiner so there's no way Jets would pull the trigger. Meanwhile Gardiner is being thrown around as one of the pieces in about half of the trades involving around the Leafs. We've seen the market value for a young future first pairing defender and that's not second pairing defender, prospect and 2nd round pick. Quantity doesn't land quality and you need to give in order to get.

Lol....no contract....high dollar demands....wants to dictate what side he plays on....holding out.....demanding a trade....

Yup, you're right, you are going to get a massive return. Good luck.

As a Leaf fan, i am more than happy sticking with Gardiner, because until Trouba proves he is better (he hasn't yet) then what's the point of overpaying?

 

[Ducks Nation*]

I don't care. Give us JVR at this point if he doesn't want to sign. Ducks got coyotes tomorrow pre season.

Whats wrong with you?

 

[Jim Bob]

I'll crack up if the deal ends up being Trouba+ for Lindholm.

 

[WaveRaven]

I'll crack up if the deal ends up being Trouba+ for Lindholm.

So will I I would actually give a decent add. Carlyle would like Trouba's game I would think.

Thing is the only way that happens is if they can't come an agreement in ANA.

Basically a money whiner for a I want out whiner +

 

[kelsier]

Lol....no contract....high dollar demands....wants to dictate what side he plays on....holding out.....demanding a trade....

Yup, you're right, you are going to get a massive return. Good luck.

As a Leaf fan, i am more than happy sticking with Gardiner, because until Trouba proves he is better (he hasn't yet) then what's the point of overpaying?

They have the rights and Trouba is at the mercy of the team that drafted him. They have all the time in the world. Sure, it will hurt the team to an extent when there's a hole in the ranks but it will hurt Trouba a whole lot more, the longer he wants to play the game of stalling. The Jets aren't going to win Stanley Cup next year (or that's very unlikely anyway) and they are not going to be pushing any panic buttons. Now, what you are insinuating is that Trouba is all about the money when he has clearly stated he hasn't been happy about his role in the team. Everything we know seems to point into that direction. If this guy wants to play in the NA in the near future, he will either sign with the Jets or with some other team that has the right pieces needed to trade and grab him. Gardiner isn't one of those pieces, or if the Jets' GM seems to think he is, then there's a very good chance Cheveldayoff will be looking for a new job some time soon.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Trade Lindholm for JVR++

++ Not happening.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Pacioretty for Trouba ?

Dude you already have Weber and Petry on the right side, So where are you going to put Trouba. Neither Weber nor Petry have ever played the left side and Trouba isn't coming to Montreal to play the left side when he's asking out of Winnipeg for that very reason. So Trouba to Montreal make very little sense.

 

[Atomos2]

These trade proposal's were on the Fansided site

Leafs get Jacob Trouba
Jets get JVR, Connor Carrick and a 2nd in 2017

Leafs get Jacob Trouba
Jets get Gardiner, C. Carrick and K. Kapenen

Leafs get Jacob Trouba
Jets get M. Marner and a 2nd in 2017

Leafs get J. Trouba, E. Comrie, D. Stafford
Jets get JVR, C. Carrick, K. Kapenen. M. Marincin and a 2nd rounder in 2017

Being a Leafs fan I would love the last one. Let the discussion begin.

No way in hell Marner goes anywhere for Trouba. Most I would go is Gardiner for Trouba in a 1 for 1 trade. If not, I wouldn't waste my time.

 

[Todd1a]

To Jets- Condra, Killorn and Slater Koekkoek To Lightning- Jacob Trouba

 

[WilliamNylander]

I've seen maybe one Gardiner deal here that's not insulting towards the Jets. This doesn't differentiate itself from that category. Trouba is younger and looks to be much better than Gardiner so there's no way Jets would pull the trigger. Meanwhile Gardiner is being thrown around as one of the pieces in about half of the trades involving around the Leafs. We've seen the market value for a young future first pairing defender and that's not second pairing defender, prospect and 2nd round pick. Quantity doesn't land quality and you need to give in order to get.

Trouba is much better than Gardiner?

Would love to see you back it up with ANY statistic you want.

Trouba is younger than Gards. Yes.

Trouba is not better yet though.


OT: Best leafs offer would have to be JVR ++ with the +s being anyone not the big 3 or Rielly. I think WIN gets a better offer elsewhere though.