Player Discussion Trevor Zegras : Part III

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At some point, I think amortization needs to be brought up.

If Zegras only plays 65 games for $4m, it is equivalent to $5m for 82 games.

John
We currently have 16.6M in cap space this year. If Zegras prorates to 5M this year, it’s a good thought, but it leaves us with 11.6M in Cap space. It’s not an issue.
 

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It is early in the season, and Zegras did miss camp, but he seems to be struggling to find his niche/role.

The first 2 years he was given carte blanche to play a freeform style of play.

I don’t see it working with Carlsson and Terry. They have some chemistry. Terry actually passed to Leo for his first goal.

Hopefully Mac and Zegras can have a real connection. It’s been tough watching Zegras these first few games.

John
 
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Personally I think Zegras has been fine, at least in terms of the eye test he's looked more engaged on the defensive side of the puck and engaging physically which fits into the vision Cronin and Verbeek seem to have for this team. We know Zegras' offensive ability is there and it will come sooner rather then later.
 
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It is early in the season, and Zegras did miss camp, but he seems to be struggling to find his niche/role.

The first 2 years he was given carte blanche to play a freeform style of play.

I don’t see it working with Carlsson and Terry. They have some chemistry. Terry actually passed to Leo for his first goal.

Hopefully Mac and Zegras can have a real connection. It’s been tough watching Zegras these first few games.

John
I feel like he started slow last year too. Being late to camp didn't help though
 

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Whatever message he needed to get from contract negotiations, he got it so far in the early going. Dude has been a certified hound in all three zones so far.

Really a shame the puck luck hasn’t been there for him, but there’s no reason for me to believe he’s not gonna hit 70 points this year if he continues the process
 
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Whatever message he needed to get from contract negotiations, he got it so far in the early going. Dude has been a certified hound in all three zones so far.

Really a shame the puck luck hasn’t been there for him, but there’s no reason for me to believe he’s not gonna hit 70 points this year if he continues the process
Terry's been dragging him down a bit honestly. He's making terrible decisions.
 

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He looks so much better at center, IMO. I wonder if he and Leo would work well together without Terry.
We just gave Terry $7m and he will be productive with Leo. He needs that structure.

Zegras is on a bridge. He needs to be the 2nd line center. He needs to prove he can run the line and make his team mates better while he also produces.

I don’t think Zegras needs Carlsson. If he does we have over estimated him.

John
 
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I'd get Z a winger that can finish (not Terry) and at least one that can dig pucks out in case of dump ins. Rico, Killorn, Jones, Vatrano, although I'd be reluctant to break up Mac's line. Maybe Carrick?
He needs to have guys that can get him the puck and finish. Don't like him with Terry because Terry likes the puck on his stick.
 

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I'd get Z a winger that can finish (not Terry) and at least one that can dig pucks out in case of dump ins. Rico, Killorn, Jones, Vatrano, although I'd be reluctant to break up Mac's line. Maybe Carrick?
Didn't Carrick and Z work well together in San Diego?

Killorn/Henrique-Carlsson-Terry
Vatrano-McTavish-Strome
Killorn/Henrique-Z-Carrick (or Jones if he can stay consistent?)
Johnston/Jones-Groulx-Silf

After the trade deadline, Jones can permanently slot in (hopefully) in Henrique's spot and/or hopefully Perrault/Tracey show something and deserve a call up at that point (ideal situation).
 

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He's playing the best hockey of his career, he looks fantastic. The points will come. It sucks Terry has been such an anchor this year.
If only he had more muscle on his frame. His physical engagement is much improved but if he had more bulk he could really impose on guys.
 

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Putting any of Zegras, Carlsson or McTavish as our 3C is a huge waste as they are all capable of playing top line. Carlsson and McTavish are better C than Zegras which is why he is being moved to wing.

All you need to do is look at the stats of the Zegras, Carlsson and Terry line and see it is way more dominant than anything we have iced in a long time. The points will come and Zegras will end up a great wing who plays C when needed.
 

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Putting any of Zegras, Carlsson or McTavish as our 3C is a huge waste as they are all capable of playing top line. Carlsson and McTavish are better C than Zegras which is why he is being moved to wing.

All you need to do is look at the stats of the Zegras, Carlsson and Terry line and see it is way more dominant than anything we have iced in a long time. The points will come and Zegras will end up a great wing who plays C when needed.
Jack Eichel - 18:46
Chandler Stephenson - 19:01
William Karlsson - 17:28

That's the time on ice for Vegas's top three centers last season. Would you consider William Karlsson as 3C a huge waste? The Ducks would find ways to get their guys playing time.
 

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Z-Carlsson-Terry could be the best line the Ducks have iced in like 8 years.
As long as they are playing well why break it up?

Literally 2 games ago they were the best line on the ice by far.
You break it up because teams need more than one good line. You break it up because Zegras is better at center. You break it up because all 3 are playmakers and are better with the puck on their stick.
 

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Jack Eichel - 18:46
Chandler Stephenson - 19:01
William Karlsson - 17:28

That's the time on ice for Vegas's top three centers last season. Would you consider William Karlsson as 3C a huge waste? The Ducks would find ways to get their guys playing time.
Vegas is a different style of team since they were built with middle range talent from all teams rather than high end talent from a draft. We dont have the depth of talent to give 3 C wingers who will produce for them.
 
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Vegas is a different style of team since they were built with middle range talent from all teams rather than high end talent from a draft. We dont have the depth of talent to give 3 C wingers who will produce for them.
We have Terry, Strome, Killorn, and Vatrano, so we're short two, assuming none of the AHL kids make a leap. We're not going keep all of our young d-men, so I would be in favor of trading for a winger or two at some point.

I'm fine with continuing the Zegras-Carlsson-Terry experiment, but I think splitting them up could create matchup nightmares for teams.
 

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Sometimes you can’t have 3 dominant players on a line. A duo plus a complimentary player is pretty common. Even finding a complimentary player is tough.

Our top line was Getzlaf, Perry, and the revolving LW for years. We even tried to bring back the PPG line, which was magical for a splt second it existed.

John
 
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70sSanO

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Just wondering why people think McTavish is a better center than Zegras.

Is it because he’s harder to knock off the puck, better passing, more methodical, or ???

John
 
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AngelDuck

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It’s pretty tough for me to say who I think will be better between Zegras and Mac long term at this point. I used to think it was Zegras for sure but McTavish has really closed the gap. I still think there’s a scenario where Zegras becomes a 90+ point center who’s deceptively good defensively though. He has played really well in 4 out of the 5 games so far and could easily have like 7 points

The bottom line is they are both clearly getting better and better to me. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen someone improve their skating as much in a 2 year span as McTavish has the past 2 years since we drafted him - it’s pretty insane to watch
 

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