Rumor: Travis Konecny looking for ~10M/Y on a long term deal

[tictactoe]

7 is as high as I will go.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Playstyle, not actual point production. He's a pest/grinder who has the ability to score 60 points a season. That's not a $10m player by any means, especially as a winger. At most he's a $7m player.

He scores 60 and leads the team because he has very little help. If he was scoring 80+ on those teams, he'd be easily worth $10M+.

$7M is too low.

 

[Celtic Note]

****…Why not just ask for $15M while he is at it?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

7 is as high as I will go.

He’s worth 8.5 at least

 

[Rich Nixon]

The Flyers are colossal p***yes, so when their in-house play-by-play-slash-Keith-Jones'-bestie is randomly out making press appearances to talk about player contract negotiations, you can probably assume it's bullshit and they're trying to create a narrative where they can trade him and tell their fanbase "we had no choice!" Or, if he signs for a normal amount, they can rehab Briere's image locally a bit--he talked TK down!

Again, the source for this is their play-by-play guy. A shill on the broadcast network that is, for all intents and purposes, part of their company. Not someone who would need to be privy to negotiations, nor someone who would usually be doing offseason interviews (he's on a podcast run this week for some reason).

They spend 90% of their time crafting a message and 10% figuring out how to run a hockey team.

 

[KevinRedkey]

He scores 60 and leads the team because he has very little help. If he was scoring 80+ on those teams, he'd be easily worth $10M+.

$7M is too low.

- 80pts shouldnt get any winger 10 in today's NHL.
- 7 is closer to his actual value than 10 is.
- Bratt, Fiala, Suzuki, and DeBrincat all make 7.875 and are all reasonbale comps.

 

[wintersej]

That’s an “I am out of here” number.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

- 80pts shouldnt get any winger 10 in today's NHL.
- 7 is closer to his actual value than 10 is.
- Bratt, Fiala, Suzuki, and DeBrincat all make 7.875 and are all reasonbale comps.

What was the cap when those were signed? It'll be ~$92M when his contract kicks in.

If Konecny is putting up 80+ and is ~20+ points clear on his team, he absolutely has a case for big money.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

I would be good with Konecny at $8.25mil per x 8 seasons.

If TK holds firm at $9 to 10 mil then the Flyers should start looking for a trade of Konecny as he is not worth that kinda salary.

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

Good for him, can look for whatever he wants.

Can’t see any team paying that, though some teams get real stupid real quick.

Well a team paid marners soft ass 10 mill before his 12th birthday so it's possible

 

[Winston Wolf]

It's not his fault the Flyers' PP is by far the worst in the league. If he were part of a competent unit, he likely would've scored 40+ this past year.

Calling him a one way 30-30 winger is a bit disingenuous when he has 64 goals and 129 points in 136 games over the last two seasons on a team that is bottom 4 in goals scored during that time. Not to mention he was a key part of a top 5 PK and led the league in SH goals.

That's not to say I'd pay him $10M either.

 

[Stephen]

His value isn’t Bertuzzi x2.

 

[KevinRedkey]

What was the cap when those were signed? It'll be ~$92M when his contract kicks in.

If Konecny is putting up 80+ and is ~20+ points clear on his team, he absolutely has a case for big money.

Bratt was coming off 73pts and his deal was for age 25-32
Fiala was coming off 85pts and it's age 26-32
DeBrincat was coming off 66pts and it's age 26-29
Suzuki was coming off 41 pts (56 games / pace of 60) and age 22-29

Konecny got 68pts last year. It would presumably be age 28-35 if he wants an 8yr deal

All were close to 9.5% of the cap, which is could be roughly 8.750 in 2025 (if we assume 92m). That would be reasonable if he was their age (at the time of signing) but he's not. Maybe if he signs a 4yr deal he's worth that - but he certainly isn't if its 6+ years.

 

[Russian_fanatic]

8.5 is fair IMO.

He's very similar to Bo Horvat who is his cousin.

 

[Siludin]

$10 is a bold ask considering Lindholm just got $7.5 and Buchnevich got $8.0

 

[boredmale]

That’s an “I am out of here” number.

It's more an I will ask for 10 and hope I end up with 8 kind of number.

 

[KevinRedkey]

8.5 is fair IMO.

He's very similar to Bo Horvat who is his cousin.

If we assume they are equal players - Horvat commands a slight premium as he plays center. The counter argument would be cap% at the time of signing. The counter-counter argument would be that Horvat is also slightly overpaid.

It's probably just semantics at this point though as it seems no one (probably even including Konecny himself) thinks he's going to get or is worth 10. From my quick glace over the thread, the numbers seem to range from 7 to about 9 FWIW.

 

[kilowatt]

Rob Blake cannot believe his luck, only $10 million?

 

[abj]

The value of Konecny is $9 million each season if he wants to stay left in the Flyers until 39 years old.

Konecny have more years left to play in the NHL.

 

[majormajor]

I think he'll get $8.5m-$9m per.

 

[seanlinden]

Tkachuk in Calgary had fairly similar overall production, up until the 1 year, and got himself $9.5m. That deal has since looked like a steal, and of course the cap has jumped a bunch in the 3 years Tkachuk is "ahead" of Konecny.

You look at the talent Philly has had the last couple years, and call me crazy, but I don't think it's completely and totally outlandish.

Jake Guentzel just got $9m in Tampa.... add a year of inflation to that deal and something close to $10m is fairly justifiable.

 

[Killer Orcas]

I mean if he's looking for 10 per in Canadian bucks it's should be done pretty quick

 

[Siludin]

The value of Konecny is $9 million each season if he wants to stay left in the Flyers until 39 years old.

Konecny have more years left to play in the NHL.

Hasn't he had like 3 concussions

 

[ameselare]

Hasn't he had like 3 concussions

He's had 1 and missed like 3 games. Generally not a very injury-prone player. Plays well defensively and on the PK and would have more points if the Flyers' PP wasn't historically bad. Despite that, nobody will be paying him $10M+, and this is all part of the negotiation tactics.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Tkachuk in Calgary had fairly similar overall production, up until the 1 year, and got himself $9.5m. That deal has since looked like a steal, and of course the cap has jumped a bunch in the 3 years Tkachuk is "ahead" of Konecny.

You look at the talent Philly has had the last couple years, and call me crazy, but I don't think it's completely and totally outlandish.

Jake Guentzel just got $9m in Tampa.... add a year of inflation to that deal and something close to $10m is fairly justifiable.

Tkachuk was 24 year old, coming off 104 points when he signed that deal. What he did before then isn't what got him 9.500. It just doesn't seem like a very relevant comparison unless you're expecting Konecny to break out like Tkachuk did that year for some reason.