Player Discussion Travis Hamonic (D)
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I'll bite. The team playing well and suddenly getting insane goaltending doesn't change the fact that Hamonic gets embarrassingly outskated / caught flatfooted by fast teams. We played an aging Pens team that let the guy play where he's best (half the ice at a time). He did not look good against Carolina.
He's played well in his end but the problem, for me, has always been his transition game and clearing the puck. To his credit he's been doing a better job of clearing it lately. Hiwever, his speed is such a liability they've stuck him with the fastest D-man on the team, and it's really hampered Sanderson's game.
At 7 minutes a night I like the guy. Him dragging down Sandy for 20 a night is no bueno.
Tuna99
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Big picture is more important than the above. It’s a team game and he’s a big part of the team and he is playing 21 minutes in must win games on a back to back.
Let’s give this guy some credit. Ultimate fox hole guy, he’s improved this season like everyone else on the team and he’s playing in our top pairing.
Big picture, things are going well. Whatever the fans scouting reports say - the guy is a hockey players and he’s old school and I believe in that and all winning teams have that.
If rather have Travis Hamonic on my team then Trevor Zegras
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Should have some trade value then. You think anyone gives up a 20+ minute RD for him?
Hamonic is awful. He has broken Sanderson. He can’t make a play with the puck.
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Hamonic is holding on, he shouldn't be a regular let alone in the top 4, but he's giving it his all while Zub is out.
Zub coming back healthy and back to his old self though will be huge especially if we can stay afloat through the holiday road trip.
Zub coming back healthy and back to his old self though will be huge especially if we can stay afloat through the holiday road trip.
Having Hamonic playing with Sanderson has hurt our offence.
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Let's use that 10 games sample where Linus is playing out of his mind to extend Travis.
8x8 easy hey?
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Tuna99
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Zub last 20 games 2024 season
20GP: -6, 3 points, average 20 mins
Hamonic last 20 games 2024
20GP: -5, 1 point, average 18 minutes of cie
Hamonic is doing a good job. He’s not Zub but he’s better then Sens fans give him credit for
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He's getting cratered almost every time he's on the ice. Advanced stats support that he's essentially been the worst defenseman in the league this year. Multiple times he handcuffs the team by throwing grenades up the boards which often result in sustained pressure by the other team. He is a number 7 D that is dragging down our top pairing, regardless of the recent team results.
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Golden_Jet
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Can you show the advanced stats that support the worst D in the league, as opposed to just guessing.
In xGA/60 at 5 on 5 he’s 172 out 284
So that’s makes about 60% of the league performing better at that stat.
What metrics do you have, and are using.
Sure they could use better, but being the worst is hyperbole.
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The Sens just need Zub to return to his old self. If Chabot can do it after a few years of despair, Zub should be able to do it too. Hamonic slides down to 6/7 and the team is in much better shape.
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I don't think he's been quite the train wreck some do, but definitely should not be playing 21+ minutes on the top pairing. I feel bad for the guy. Two years in a row we went in saying he needed to be the 6/7 but the coaches always play him as the firm 6, and injuries always force him higher up than he should be. Seems like most coaches would rather fail out with veteran guys based on lack of ability over playing guys they think might not make the right decisions or give 100%.
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hamonic sucks. the illusion that he is playing good right now is because his mistakes haven't ended up in the back of the net.
but that's only a matter of time.
but that's only a matter of time.
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I think playing too much results in a good chunk of the criticism . They slot him there and he struggles because he just does not have what it takes to play those minutes. You have to love his heart. Citing minutes played for some sort of justification of him being good is a little off the mark.
Hamonic is being held up by his partner and the team around him now.
Our depth is not very good on the right side and its a hard position to play effectively
It's not just play, he's perpetually injured which forces guys to play up the lineup and out of their proper slotting.
I can support Hamonic and believe he is doing his best to help the team while also recognizing that he is a liability many times a game.
Watching him give the puck away, over and over is so painful. Then he scrambles to block a shot that never should have happened and he gets called a warrior.
He has zero confidence with the puck, and zero sense of making a play with it at the NHL level. In the offensive zone it's fired at the net immediately and in the D zone it is a rim around 80% of the time.
Great guy, don't mind him as a 6/7, but he needs a rest when Zub is back.
Watching him give the puck away, over and over is so painful. Then he scrambles to block a shot that never should have happened and he gets called a warrior.
He has zero confidence with the puck, and zero sense of making a play with it at the NHL level. In the offensive zone it's fired at the net immediately and in the D zone it is a rim around 80% of the time.
Great guy, don't mind him as a 6/7, but he needs a rest when Zub is back.
BonHoonLayneCornell
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Ya, he's played admirably, and I appreciate the effort, but his time has passed. I think he can be hidden on a 3rd pairing okay, for a time during the regular season, as we've seen them win with him playing too high, but if they look serious further down the line, I'd like to see a move to try to give them another option. JBD has looked good with Kleven, so hopefully when Zub is back they can leave that be and put Hammer in the box.
That said, I still think people hyper focus on him a bit too much and wade in to hyperbole. Sort of like Amadio up front.
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Amadio is different to me. His details are really good. He is a smart player. Not putting up a lot of points but I like him on that 3rd line.
