Player Discussion Travis Hamonic (D)

Tuna99

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Hamonic with 21+ minutes in game that puts us into a playoff spot.

7-2-1 in their last 10 games

Who wants to complain about Travis Hamonic now??
 

darude

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Hamonic with 21+ minutes in game that puts us into a playoff spot.

7-2-1 in their last 10 games

Who wants to complain about Travis Hamonic now??
I'll bite. The team playing well and suddenly getting insane goaltending doesn't change the fact that Hamonic gets embarrassingly outskated / caught flatfooted by fast teams. We played an aging Pens team that let the guy play where he's best (half the ice at a time). He did not look good against Carolina.

He's played well in his end but the problem, for me, has always been his transition game and clearing the puck. To his credit he's been doing a better job of clearing it lately. Hiwever, his speed is such a liability they've stuck him with the fastest D-man on the team, and it's really hampered Sanderson's game.

At 7 minutes a night I like the guy. Him dragging down Sandy for 20 a night is no bueno.
 

Tuna99

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I'll bite. The team playing well and suddenly getting insane goaltending doesn't change the fact that Hamonic gets embarrassingly outskated / caught flatfooted by fast teams. We played an aging Pens team that let the guy play where he's best (half the ice at a time). He did not look good against Carolina.

He's played well in his end but the problem, for me, has always been his transition game and clearing the puck. To his credit he's been doing a better job of clearing it lately. Hiwever, his speed is such a liability they've stuck him with the fastest D-man on the team, and it's really hampered Sanderson's game.

At 7 minutes a night I like the guy. Him dragging down Sandy for 20 a night is no bueno.

Big picture is more important than the above. It’s a team game and he’s a big part of the team and he is playing 21 minutes in must win games on a back to back.

Let’s give this guy some credit. Ultimate fox hole guy, he’s improved this season like everyone else on the team and he’s playing in our top pairing.

Big picture, things are going well. Whatever the fans scouting reports say - the guy is a hockey players and he’s old school and I believe in that and all winning teams have that.

If rather have Travis Hamonic on my team then Trevor Zegras
 
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Sens of Anarchy

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Big picture is more important than the above. It’s a team game and he’s a big part of the team and he is playing 21 minutes in must win games on a back to back.

Let’s give this guy some credit. Ultimate fox hole guy, he’s improved this season like everyone else on the team and he’s playing in our top pairing.

Big picture, things are going well. Whatever the fans scouting reports say - the guy is a hockey players and he’s old school and I believe in that and all winning teams have that.

If rather have Travis Hamonic on my team then Trevor Zegras
Should have some trade value then. You think anyone gives up a 20+ minute RD for him?
 

Tuna99

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Hamonic is holding on, he shouldn't be a regular let alone in the top 4, but he's giving it his all while Zub is out.

Zub coming back healthy and back to his old self though will be huge especially if we can stay afloat through the holiday road trip.

Zub last 20 games 2024 season

20GP: -6, 3 points, average 20 mins

Hamonic last 20 games 2024

20GP: -5, 1 point, average 18 minutes of cie

Hamonic is doing a good job. He’s not Zub but he’s better then Sens fans give him credit for
 
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CornerStone61

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Zub last 20 games 2024 season

20GP: -6, 3 points, average 20 mins

Hamonic last 20 games 2024

20GP: -5, 1 point, average 18 minutes of cie

Hamonic is doing a good job. He’s not Zub but he’s better then Sens fans give him credit for
He's getting cratered almost every time he's on the ice. Advanced stats support that he's essentially been the worst defenseman in the league this year. Multiple times he handcuffs the team by throwing grenades up the boards which often result in sustained pressure by the other team. He is a number 7 D that is dragging down our top pairing, regardless of the recent team results.
 

Golden_Jet

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He's getting cratered almost every time he's on the ice. Advanced stats support that he's essentially been the worst defenseman in the league this year. Multiple times he handcuffs the team by throwing grenades up the boards which often result in sustained pressure by the other team. He is a number 7 D that is dragging down our top pairing, regardless of the recent team results.
Can you show the advanced stats that support the worst D in the league, as opposed to just guessing.

In xGA/60 at 5 on 5 he’s 172 out 284
So that’s makes about 60% of the league performing better at that stat.

What metrics do you have, and are using.
Sure they could use better, but being the worst is hyperbole.
 

BonHoonLayneCornell

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I don't think he's been quite the train wreck some do, but definitely should not be playing 21+ minutes on the top pairing. I feel bad for the guy. Two years in a row we went in saying he needed to be the 6/7 but the coaches always play him as the firm 6, and injuries always force him higher up than he should be. Seems like most coaches would rather fail out with veteran guys based on lack of ability over playing guys they think might not make the right decisions or give 100%.
 

Agent Zuuuub

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hamonic sucks. the illusion that he is playing good right now is because his mistakes haven't ended up in the back of the net.

but that's only a matter of time.
 

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