Traverse City Prospect Tournament 2018
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Joey Bones
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FWIW, I got to meet Marty Brodeur while watching Anthony play in travel a few years back. He's actually a really nice & humble guy. I just think Avery gave him PTSD out on the ice lolol....
Joey Bones
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The team is looking pretty okay. I can't wait to see what Keane does out there along with the obvious higher end prospects.
The invites are kind of meh, but I'm curious to see how Melanson does with this tournament. On the older side, but I liked his grind style in BU under Quinn. Will be interesting!!
The invites are kind of meh, but I'm curious to see how Melanson does with this tournament. On the older side, but I liked his grind style in BU under Quinn. Will be interesting!!
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FWIW--both goalies have a year as pros. Nell--18 AHL games and 13 ECHL games--Brodeur 39 ECHL games. They shouldn't be terrible in this kind of tournament.
The defense looks solid--Hajek, Lindgren and Keane. Sean Day--this is his third go around at the tournament and Brandon Crawley had a full year in the AHL. That should be 5 solid defensemen + Nico Gross a 4th round draft pick.
The forward group--Chytil and Andersson both got NHL games last year and had very solid years. Howden's a first rounder coming off a really good WJC. Fontaine played AHL the entire year last year. That's potentially your 4 centers if they don't move Andersson to the wing--so this Rangers probably is stronger than any other team down the middle. Meskanen had a really solid year in Liiga--one of the best European leagues and Ronning had a great WHL year and has played in the AHL the ends of the last two years + this is his third go around at Traverse. Tim Gettinger's third go around too. Michael Lindqvist a point per game SHL player--Leedahl split last year between the AHL and ECHL.
This is one of the stronger--and arguably the best team the Rangers have ever sent to Traverse. That isn't to say they're going to win but IMO they shouldn't finish any lower than 3rd.
Joey Keane is one of those guys I'll be watching very closely. Both him and are other 3rd round pick Ragnarsson could be home runs in last year's draft.
The defense looks solid--Hajek, Lindgren and Keane. Sean Day--this is his third go around at the tournament and Brandon Crawley had a full year in the AHL. That should be 5 solid defensemen + Nico Gross a 4th round draft pick.
The forward group--Chytil and Andersson both got NHL games last year and had very solid years. Howden's a first rounder coming off a really good WJC. Fontaine played AHL the entire year last year. That's potentially your 4 centers if they don't move Andersson to the wing--so this Rangers probably is stronger than any other team down the middle. Meskanen had a really solid year in Liiga--one of the best European leagues and Ronning had a great WHL year and has played in the AHL the ends of the last two years + this is his third go around at Traverse. Tim Gettinger's third go around too. Michael Lindqvist a point per game SHL player--Leedahl split last year between the AHL and ECHL.
This is one of the stronger--and arguably the best team the Rangers have ever sent to Traverse. That isn't to say they're going to win but IMO they shouldn't finish any lower than 3rd.
Joey Keane is one of those guys I'll be watching very closely. Both him and are other 3rd round pick Ragnarsson could be home runs in last year's draft.
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Definitely one of the deepest teams we've sent in years, and they'll have the added benefit of actually having some prior ice time together. I'm not expecting to win the tournament, but I do think they'll be a very competitive bunch this year. Carolina is a pretty deep team this year and will probably take the tournament.
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Need to get Lindqvist and Meskanen minutes on one of the big 3 center's lines so we can see what they have in north america.
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Cool, I wanna see Chytil x Necas. Never got why Necas is considered by some a much better prospect than Chytil.
Mac n Gs
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Yup, plus Gauthier, Geekie, and some other very promising prospects.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Edge
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I don't know. If you trust your scouts, and they arrive at the conclusion that he's the guy they want in the 6th, you do what you have to do.
This is a team that also passed on the nephew of a prominent member of its front office, and hasn't made plays for the sons of assistant coaches or other members of the staff over the years.
This kid was the 163rd pick in a draft where the Rangers had already made 8 picks.
I think we're looking for more conspiracies where none exist.
BBKers
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I am pretty certain the kinship played in here. Not likely that it matters much. But still, it played in
IDK. I don't think the suggestion that nepotism had something to do with the pick is conspiratorial. It might not be true but I think it's a pretty straightforward idea. But, whatever, Kjellberg to me looks like a nothing prospect, and I've already wasted 5 billion keystrokes on this, so I'm tapping out.
Edge
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IDK. I don't think the suggestion that nepotism had something to do with the pick is conspiratorial. It might not be true but I think it's a pretty straightforward idea. But, whatever, Kjellberg to me looks like a nothing prospect, and I've already wasted 5 billion keystrokes on this, so I'm tapping out.
Most picks in the 160s are nothing picks.
But I think when certain people keep harping on the nepotism thing over, and over, and over, and over, and over. It doesn't do the person making the comments any favors.
Especially considering that there's no history, evidence or other elements to support the claim.
The kid is heading to the US to play hockey, where obviously someone knew of him.
He was on some radars prior to the draft, before dropping off. So someone was watching him.
So let's not pretend like he was waiting for the school bus and management just decided to give the kid a break.
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OK. I mean there's never going to be a way to prove or disprove the nepotism claim unless someone comes out and addresses it, which is unlikely to happen (anytime soon, anyway), and even more unlikely to be confirmed if it was the case. So, I don't know. It will probably remain a point of discussion for as long as he's around.
Yeah, they should do alright and it will be fun to watch.
A few things though:
-There is an enormous difference in general between a hockey player that is 18-19 or 23-26 or whatever. Lias and Chytil are big names, but in terms of completeness kids like Vesey and Oskar L who were 23-24 at the time they played in Traverse are of course further along. Chytil and Lias will be 18 and 19 respectively at Traverse this year, they are young. Howden is what, 20. Keane 19. And so forth.
-That blueline is OK, but again, its pretty fresh kids on it. I would definitely call it average by Traverse standards, hardly great.
-I don't care one bit how Lias and Chytil does at Traverse. Hopefully they are preparing for the upcoming season right up until they hit the ice instead of trying to get their skating legs in top shape early.
-Lindqvist must perform at Traverse. When we got him, I predicted that he would be the type who started a little slow and grew during the duration of the off-season. Its usually like that with more finished and developed prospects. A few reasons for that. They might not quite have that youthful energy to hit the ground running for a rookie camp in early September. But scrimmage type of game like Traverse is also differs a lot from a pro game. You can cheat and gain from "cheating" in that type of environment. When we talk about paying attention to detail, its not because 'not' paying attention to details will cost you every time. It might cost you 1 of 10 times, but at the highest level you can't afford that. In a scrimmage a team isn't prepared to jump on every little mistake the other team does, kids have bad habits for a reason, they are awarded for it.
With that said -- I thought Lindqvist by far had the worst showing at the rookie camp. He didn't join the flow of the game but just became a spectator. Sure it was like late June, he is 24 y/o and played against 17-18 y/o in scrimmages after skating hard for a few days. There are no reason to get upset about that performance. Just getting a feel for the organization and smaller ice etc is what mattered.
But he cannot take that into Traverse. He must start to find the skating lanes so to speak. How to skate on the ice to be involved in the play and come into situations with speed.
It sets up a challenge to move from the SHL to the NHL. During the period when you make that adjustment you cannot react by becoming passive which might be natural when you are unsure what to do because the change you must do is the opposite, you must be more active.
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IDK, the above was my only post on this subject among hundreds already made in this space with far more outrageous implications. @nyr2k2 and I just mentioned a potential for unintentional outcomes even in pretty benign situations.
Hunter Gathers
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Maybe that's how he got with his sister-in-law. By being "a really nice & humble guy".
Edge
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Interestingly enough, Brodeur is Godfather to a third cousin of mine.
I didn't learn that until a wake about a year ago. Imagine my surprise when he walked through the door.
I didn't learn that until a wake about a year ago. Imagine my surprise when he walked through the door.
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