Traverse City Prospect Tournament 2018

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Better team than previous years.

Interested to see if they can make some noise.

None of the invites are of any consequence. Stukel is the only one who's name I've seen before.
 
Brodeur already has a 2018-2019 with the Allen Americans of the ECHL. He is filling a spot at Traverse City and then he'll be gone.

Jeremy will be a fun storyline. If they decide he's ahead of Wall, Nell and Halverson, I wonder if he can get a contract.
 
That rules applies to development camps but since Traverse City is considered a pro tournament no college player can play or else they lose their college eligibility. If you look at all 31 teams you will see no college players.

Committed to Wisconsin. Can't participate in Traverse unless he pays for all his expenses and gets permission to go.
 
Stuckel is the only invitee who is mildly interesting. He was a sixth round pick by Vancouver in 2016 (#154) who was not signed by the June 1 deadline for junior players. Steve K. had him rated 177 in his 2016 analysis. Perhaps playing for an AHL deal.

Tyler Helgeson was signed to a contract at the end of last year by Hartford but he has committed to playing in Canadian college hockey next year.

Pratt is on an ECHL deal with us/Maine.

Stukel is an unsigned pick of the Canucks who had an okay WHL career.

Johnson is going back to Red Deer for his over-age year as their Captain.

Potts appears to ****ing suck--not even a Good Locker Room Guy who gets a letter despite no production--so he must know someone.

Brodeur is Fatso's kid which is ****ing disgusting and I hope he misses repeated planes and fails to make it to the rink, until after the tournament is over.
 
Goalie is very weak but in terms of skaters NYR should be near favorites. Maybe the team will try to televise this in some way since it's a prospect tournament and we're in full prospect mode as an organization? A man can dream.
 
Is our goaltending really THAT much of a weakness though? Nell may not be very good, but he has pro experience; and he's about to play a tourney against kids.
 
Is our goaltending really THAT much of a weakness though? Nell may not be very good, but he has pro experience; and he's about to play a tourney against kids.

all of the real goalie prospects are in either college or europe and not available
 
Nell should be okay. Or, he could be. He sucked last year but played on pretty awful teams. He was a good college goalie that has a pro season under his belt.

Brodeur was pretty good in the ECHL.
 
Lindqvist - Chytil - Ronning
Getttinger - Andersson - Meskanen
Fontaine - Howden - Leedahl
4th line

Hajek - Keane
Lindgren - Day
Gross - Crawley
4th pair
 
Probably the best forward depth going into the tournament and likely one of the top 2-3 defense depths. Unless our goalies crap the bed, Ranger's are going into this tournament the favorites.
 
Usually the two goalies split the games. Just saying. Nell will probably by okay--Brodeur is the ? As far as him being Marty's son--I don't like Marty but I'm not rooting against the kid just because the dad's a jerk.
I hope the kid fails miserably. The whole family.
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Why wouldn't he be ready for the ECHL? If you draft a player out of a SHL system, I think you'd probably expect that player to get regular games in the SHL the upcoming season. Worst case scenario, only a couple of games and maybe a loan to the Allsvenskan. Its also worth mentioning that the AHL and SHL are about equal leagues.

If Kjellberg is a draftable prospect, he should be ECHL ready. Its a very bad league.
The last place you send an 18 year old kid is the ECHL.
 
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CSS had Ekholm #113 among European skaters in 2009. They have 30 scouts total and work for the NHL itself. They're certainly not infallible and they can miss guys, but their coverage is generally pretty good. I can't find rankings for McKeen's, or McKenzie/TSN, Red Line Report, etc., as 2009 is too far back and most of what was published online is now gone.

As for the Rangers scouts, a number of them are pro scouts and most of the rest are North American scouts. For Europe we have Gajdosik, Hascak, Eloranta, Kjellberg and Lutchenko. It's pretty easy to guess what regions/countries those guys are primarily assigned to. Who do you think has the primary assignment of Sweden?

Whether or not you put any stock in the scouting services, it's unusual to draft a guy that was completely unranked by every service. I'm not saying it doesn't happen; it's just not common, even in the later rounds. You look at the guys drafted in the rest of the round after Kjellberg and they were all ranked, some pretty decently. Our guy wasn't. It's okay, though, maybe he works out. I don't know. Maybe Gajdosik flew into Sweden to catch some games and also liked Kjellberg and he really is just a prospect everyone missed (even though, again, CSS had him ranked then dropped him completely--so they knew him).


Could be. At the same time, if you have a staff member with an NHL pedigree, and his kid starts out on a pro career (and happens to have good size), you probably take a couple looks at him as a courtesy. The NHL is an Old Boys Club, after all. Now taking a look at the kid and drafting him just because of the relationship are two different things, which is why I'm not saying that's the reason the Rangers drafted him. The Rangers may have ended up scouting him when few else were because of the relationship, however. That wouldn't surprise me.

Also, I know a few people in response to any mention or implication of nepotism bring up Jack Drury. I can think of plenty of reasons why father, son, or both, would not want the team to draft the player. For instance if my dad was in Chris's shoes and I were in Jack's, I know for certain my dad wouldn't support drafting me--he'd want me to make it on my own and avoid any potential charges of "you're only doing XYZ because your dad works for the team"--and I wouldn't want to be drafted into the organization for the same reasons. I'd want to strike it out on my own. However, not everyone is like that. Some father/son tandems want to be associated like that. My point is that not drafting Jack Drury doesn't mean there wasn't an element of nepotism in the Kjellberg pick.

Anyway, I'm really done with the Kjellberg thing. I hope he works out, and is one of those "diamond in the rough" guys. I happen to believe the reason we scouted him was because his father is a scout assigned to the region/country in which he plays, and that also probably played a role in the draft selection when there were probably some other guys we also liked at that spot. But, whatever, it is what it is. C'est la vie.
A few years ago, the Flyers drafted the son of CEO Peter Luukko. Peter told the team he didn't want them to draft him and but they picked him when Peter was out of the room. Why? Because he was the BPA on their board. At the end of the day, that's all that matters.
 
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Marty's older son Anthony was taken in the 7th round by the Devils while he was still playing there. Stunk in the Q after his draft year but he was probably closer to a draftable player than, like, the Chinese guy the Isles picked.
 
A few years ago, the Flyers drafted the son of CEO Peter Luukko. Peter told the team he didn't want them to draft him and but they picked him when Peter was out of the room. Why? Because he was the BPA on their board. At the end of the day, that's all that matters.
What if the player is considered BPA because the organization has been looking at him with nepotism-tinted glasses? That's my concern in situations like this. Maybe they've watched him more than other kids because of the familial connection, and he's better than some other kids because they watched more of "their" guy. Stuff like that. I have no evidence this occurred. It's just the stuff I think about when a staff member's kid or some other "inside" kid is picked.
 
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What if the player is considered BPA because the organization has been looking at him with nepotism-tinted glasses? That's my concern in situations like this. Maybe they've watched him more than other kids because of the familial connection, and he's better than some other kids because they watched more of "their" guy. Stuff like that. I have no evidence this occurred. It's just the stuff I think about when a staff member's kid or some other "inside" kid is picked.

I agree. A good idea to stay away even if in order to avoid unintentional evaluation errors.
 
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