News Article: Training camp starts. Camp discussion

[McDrai]

I'm interested to hear what people's thoughts on Mcleod are at this point. I was laughed out of a thread for suggesting that he is an upgrade on Caggiula, Rattie, etc. Ideally He should get more seasoning to work on his shot/physicality but he is definitely not far off considering how atrocious our winger depth is.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I couldn't agree more. This is exactly what Jesse needs...to be more engaged...not less engaged.

I suspect if he gets more physical engaged and realizes his physical tools at the NHL level he will gain a lot of confidence.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I'm interested to hear what people's thoughts on Mcleod are at this point. I was laughed out of a thread for suggesting that he is an upgrade on Caggiula, Rattie, etc. Ideally He should get more seasoning to work on his shot/physicality but he is definitely not far off considering how atrocious our winger depth is.

He already skates at an NHL level (basically a high level) he might earn himself a look if he can bring some consistency. I wonder about his "high end" as a prospect, but I really think there's a player there. And if McLeod got a 9 (or more) game look because of a strong performance in camp, that would suit me just fine.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Stauffer just said JP looked really good in the scrimmage. Usually you have to pull JP positivity out of him with hot tongs.

That boy’s going to break out, I can feel it.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

He already skates at an NHL level (basically a high level) he might earn himself a look if he can bring some consistency. I wonder about his "high end" as a prospect, but I really think there's a player there. And if McLeod got a 9 (or more) game look because of a strong performance in camp, that would suit me just fine.

IMO, Benson’s the guy that’s a potential job thief. He’s looked great so far and is 100% healthy.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Almost any player would be an upgrade on Caggiula as he's a net negative on the ice.

Whomever is the best between Yamamoto/McLeod/Benson/Marody/Aberg should be in the lineup over Caggiula.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

IMO, Benson’s the guy that’s a potential job thief. He’s looked great so far and is 100% healthy.

Because of their skating, both guys should have the "regulars" sweating their spot, imo.

Agree on Benson he clearly look like he was a higher level compare to a lot of the Rookies.

 

[nexttothemoon]

I think Benson has been somewhat underrated because of his injury issues. When healthy... he has the top end talent level to easily be a solid top 6 NHL player.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Almost any player would be an upgrade on Caggiula as he's a net negative on the ice.

Whomever is the best between Yamamoto/McLeod/Benson/Marody/Aberg should be in the lineup over Caggiula.

Should be. Won’t be, since we just gave him 600k too much and now have Nurse sitting out; but should be.

I just have this sense that Aberg is not long for this team. His sleeping in and missing practice or whatever put him firmly on tmacs shit list.

 

[PulYou]

Stauffer just said JP looked really good in the scrimmage. Usually you have to pull JP positivity out of him with hot tongs.

That boy’s going to break out, I can feel it.

This is music to me. Sounds like the new length of his stick is not a problem.

 

[guymez]

I suspect if he gets more physical engaged and realizes his physical tools at the NHL level he will gain a lot of confidence.

100%.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

This is music to me. Sounds like the new length of his stick is not a problem.

It should be good for him - speed up his release and help his stickhandling.

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

I'm interested to hear what people's thoughts on Mcleod are at this point. I was laughed out of a thread for suggesting that he is an upgrade on Caggiula, Rattie, etc. Ideally He should get more seasoning to work on his shot/physicality but he is definitely not far off considering how atrocious our winger depth is.

I think simply because he skates so well he's got an advantage on those two players, however staying with the team is not what's best for his development or what's best for the team short and long term. It is promising to see that he's done well early in camp but it's still very early. I ultimately think he's going to be a good 3rd line guy who can move up the lineup if need be but he needs to work on being less of a perimeter player. It's easier to start doing that in junior and then bring that skill to the pro game rather than starting to try it at the pro level when you haven't played that way before. No sense risking a promising player getting injured because he's not ready for the physicality of the pro game.

 

[Arpeggio]

I agree that Benson has the best shot of stealing a spot. He's the prototypical NHL hockey player, can skate, has decent size, and his skill is high enough that he should be able to make plays. I'd be worried if I was Caggiula, even with that contract. Guys with size can steal spots from smaller players pretty quickly if they can skate.

 

[ToeMcDrag83]

Leon apparently lighter/leaner according to Chiarelli ("little more giddy up")

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Leon apparently lighter/leaner according to Chiarelli ("little more giddy up")

McDavid is pushing everyone to get faster apparently

This is some good news as well.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I think Benson has been somewhat underrated because of his injury issues. When healthy... he has the top end talent level to easily be a solid top 6 NHL player.

I very seldom disagree with you but where is this coming from? In comparison he figures somewhere below a Ty Rattie is my take. What am I not seeing?

 

[snipes]

Stauffer just said JP looked really good in the scrimmage. Usually you have to pull JP positivity out of him with hot tongs.

That boy’s going to break out, I can feel it.

Me too.

I have a feeling JP takes off this year offensively. One thing we don’t talk enough about it JP already has a very mature defensive game for his age.

 

[Cloned]

I very seldom disagree with you but where is this coming from? In comparison he figures somewhere below a Ty Rattie is my take. What am I not seeing?

If Rattie had Benson’s hockey sense he’d probably be a 25 goal scorer at the NHL level.

 

[snipes]

I very seldom disagree with you but where is this coming from? In comparison he figures somewhere below a Ty Rattie is my take. What am I not seeing?

His hockey IQ

 

[ThePhoenixx]

What am I not seeing?

hockey IQ

Set up so nicely. Must hold tongue...

 

[Drivesaitl]

His hockey IQ

I must be dense, I rarely understand this comment. Rattie had hockey IQ, he was the master of the WHL at one point. How do people differentiate one players hockey IQ being higher than another?

Or are these just subjective views.

We've seen Ty Rattie be able to play with Connor McDavid and not look out of place. His hockey IQ would seemingly be fine. I don't honestly get it.

 

[Drivesaitl]

If Rattie had Benson’s hockey sense he’d probably be a 25 goal scorer at the NHL level.

Ty Rattie has been a better player than Benson at any level of hockey. Again what are the views actually based on? Not some subjective one offs that don't tell us anything.

I don't know much about Benson. So what does he bring for tools? I know he has an extensive injury history.

 

[Cloned]

Ty Rattie has been a better player than Benson at any level of hockey. Again what are the views actually based on? Not some subjective one offs that don't tell us anything.

Rattie played on stacked teams in junior and relied on his shooting ability. He was also never injured to the extent that Benson was.

 

[A91]

Stauffer just said JP looked really good in the scrimmage. Usually you have to pull JP positivity out of him with hot tongs.

That boy’s going to break out, I can feel it.

God I hope so.
Would be so huge for us (and him)