News Article: Training camp starts. Camp discussion

[Spawn]

Top pick in the draft always sticks with their team... just the way it works.

Rarely with guys picked outside of the top 2 or 3, especially not with d-men.

Bouchard is already getting burned for goals against. And that is against other teams AHL squads. Unless he takes a huge step forward in the next few weeks he's going to get victimized on a nightly basis. That can take its toll on a player and help losses pile up.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Rarely with guys picked outside of the top 2 or 3, especially not with d-men.

Bouchard is already getting burned for goals against. And that is against other teams AHL squads. Unless he takes a huge step forward in the next few weeks he's going to get victimized on a nightly basis. That can take its toll on a player and help losses pile up.

So far he leads the team in ice time at just under 24 minutes per game and is +5 which also leads the team.

The thing about dmen with offense in their games is that they will see GA as well as GF... the typical "high event players".

Pretty much goes with the territory of being a player that takes chances offensively and isn't always top end in defensive skills.

He's not a shutdown D and neither are most top offensive dmen... ie Burns, Karlsson etc.


If Bouchard plays with a decent defensive partner he will be ok defensively. I fully expect him to make mistakes just like Nurse/Klefbom/Benning make mistakes as they are developing and learning at the NHL level as well.

 

[McSuper]

Ill never forget watching the WJC during the lockout season. The one RNH completely dominated and I kept on thinking how superior he was to Schiefele in every single aspect of the game. Like it wasnt even close.

Nuge with a little more confidence can still be the creative magician who had better vision than Gretzky. Its in him somewhere. I hope he has a career year such a great player and person.

I take it you never watch Gretzky play . RNH may have great vision but Gretzky could see 5 moves ahead . One of Gretzky great quotes was " I shoot where the goalie was not where he is going " That always stuck with me .

 

[DaGap]

Whoa RNH see's the ice well but come on to bring out a greztky comparison?

 

[booyakasha]

I take it you never watch Gretzky play . RNH may have great vision but Gretzky could see 5 moves ahead . One of Gretzky great quotes was " I shoot where the goalie was not where he is going " That always stuck with me .

He never said that.
That doesn't even make sense.....it's like a line from Slapshot.

 

[LaGu]

He never said that.
That doesn't even make sense.....it's like a line from Slapshot.

Probably going for one of these:
I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has been.

A good hockey player plays where the puck is. A great hockey player plays where the puck is going to be.

 

[booyakasha]

Probably going for one of these:
I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has been.

A good hockey player plays where the puck is. A great hockey player plays where the puck is going to be.

That's the quote I remember, along with him talking about scribbling on a piece of paper witching HNIC.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Is there any players confirmed to be playing on Sunday?

Not to my knowledge, but McLellan did say that our Sunday line-up would be somewhat comparable to what the Jets iced against us last game, the game is supposed to be the weaker half of what's left in camp versus something closer to the Jets regular season line-up. McLellan also mentioned players who've only gotten one game and need another look will probably play on Sunday.

I'm guessing- Caggiula, Brodziak, Kassian, Garrison, Gravel, Malone, and Benning will play on Sunday

 

[Skolman]

Not to my knowledge, but McLellan did say that our Sunday line-up would be somewhat comparable to what the Jets iced against us last game, the game is supposed to be the weaker half of what's left in camp versus something closer to the Jets regular season line-up. McLellan also mentioned players who've only gotten one game and need another look will probably play on Sunday.

I'm guessing- Caggiula, Brodziak, Kassian, Garrison, Gravel, Malone, and Benning will play on Sunday

Yuck, kind of expected that though. Good thing the tickets are fairly cheap

 

[Digger12]

Is there any players confirmed to be playing on Sunday?

Oilers Twitter confirmed that Koskinen will be starting in net tomorrow.

 

[PulYou]

 

[nexttothemoon]

Like the intensity... as long as we don't get another Eager-Tulupov situation.

 

[PBandJ]

Yeh. I don't buy the "hes got nothing left to prove in junior " track of thoughts. He can still focus on his defense and work on his shot. I doubt he gets top unit PP time here.

He won't be improving his defense against kids in junior.

What the team needs to do if they keep him up is give him opportunities, and reign him back and shelter him when he's clearly shellshocked instead of the sink or swim method they used on Jultz.

 

[LTIR]

Like the intensity... as long as we don't get another Eager-Tulupov situation.

Wondering what Khaira did about it...
Love the fire from Larsson but would love it even more If Khaira goes into beast mode

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I take it you never watch Gretzky play . RNH may have great vision but Gretzky could see 5 moves ahead . One of Gretzky great quotes was " I shoot where the goalie was not where he is going " That always stuck with me .

Gretzky knew what the other team was going to do before they did

 

[LTIR]

He won't be improving his defense against kids in junior.

What the team needs to do if they keep him up is give him opportunities, and reign him back and shelter him when he's clearly shellshocked instead of the sink or swim method they used on Jultz.

He could certainly improve his defensive game. Play hardest minutes + PK.
They added Boqvist so Bouchard won't have to play 30mins a night.

 

[PulYou]

The line-ups at today's practice:

BLUE
Khaira - Strome - Puljujarvi
Caggiula - Brodziak - Kassian
Chiasson - Marody - Yamamoto
McLeod
Nurse - Benning
Gravel - Russell
Jerabek - Bear

WHITE
Nugent-Hopkins - McDavid - Rattie
Lucic - Draisaitl - Rieder
Upshall - Malone - Aberg
Klefbom - Bouchard
Garrison - Larsson
Lowe

 

[t0nedeff]

He could certainly improve his defensive game. Play hardest minutes + PK.
They added Boqvist so Bouchard won't have to play 30mins a night.

Yeah but theres a real chance Boqvist starts the year with Chicago and who knows after that.

 

[Digger12]

He could certainly improve his defensive game. Play hardest minutes + PK.
They added Boqvist so Bouchard won't have to play 30mins a night.

Obviously Bouchard could improve his defensive game, but you're kidding yourself if you think the Knights would think of it in the same way. The Knights are not a farm team of the Oilers, they're one of the most successful junior teams in the CHL for a reason...they get the best talent, and play that talent a ton in all offensive situations to leverage the strengths of that talent. They'd use Bouchard in how they see fit, not the Oilers.

Even with Boqvist there, Bouchard would still be playing 28+ minutes per night and be on the PP a ton. I don't see why Hunter would decide to put a bunch of PK minutes onto Bouchard's shoulders, he's got others who can do that grunt work.

 

[LTIR]

The line-ups at today's practice:

BLUE
Khaira - Strome - Puljujarvi
Caggiula - Brodziak - Kassian
Chiasson - Marody - Yamamoto
McLeod
Nurse - Benning
Gravel - Russell
Jerabek - Bear

WHITE
Nugent-Hopkins - McDavid - Rattie
Lucic - Draisaitl - Rieder
Upshall - Malone - Aberg
Klefbom - Bouchard
Garrison - Larsson
Lowe

Looks like Team Blue + select others will be playing in WPG tomorrow.

 

[Raab]

I guess it's his spot to lose at this point.

Hmm, I wonder who could have said that...

 

[OilerTyler]

Hmm, I wonder who could have said that...

Pick one

Oilers Scouting Staff

 

[A91]

I take it you never watch Gretzky play . RNH may have great vision but Gretzky could see 5 moves ahead . One of Gretzky great quotes was " I shoot where the goalie was not where he is going " That always stuck with me .

Jesus does nobody remember 2011 on these boards? It was a joke.

Central Scouting’s Peter Sullivan: “A couple of people high up — and not naming names — said Hopkins has the best vision since No. 99.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Wayne Gretzky. Wayne Gretzky and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

 

[McDrai]

I think opening lineup will be something like this in Todd's eyes:

RNH-McDavid-Rattie
Lucic-Draisaitl-Rieder
Khaira-Strome-Puljujarvi
Caggiula-Brodziak-Kassian

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse-Bouchard
Russell-Benning
Gravel

Talbot
Koskinen

 

[Joey Moss]

I think opening lineup will be something like this in Todd's eyes:

RNH-McDavid-Rattie
Lucic-Draisaitl-Rieder
Khaira-Strome-Puljujarvi
Caggiula-Brodziak-Kassian

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse-Bouchard
Russell-Benning
Gravel

Talbot
Koskinen

That's a safe bet. Yam and Bear will be sent down and given the same treatment as Draisaitl and Puljujarvi were. Go down and when you eventually come up never go back. Bouchard will be given an opportunity on a 9 game tryout. I think Aberg and Chiasson/Upshall get extra slots.