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Buffalo Bills Training Camp - July 16 (rookies), July 23 (veterans)

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Rowley Birkin

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Here is how I expect Beane to use the $10M:

$2M to sign the rookies
$5M allocated for in-season moves to replace injured players
$3M for roster moves, including a potential extension for Spencer Brown
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How do you see any potential extensions factoring on this year's cap number?

Also don't forget the top 51 to final 53 will cost up to $2m or so...
 
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It’s kind of crazy that both the current best QB in the NFL (Mahomes) and best wide receiver in the NFL (Jefferson) were drafted with first round picks that belonged to the Buffalo Bills and neither player will ever play for Buffalo.
 
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Rowley Birkin said:
How do you see any potential extensions factoring on this year's cap number?

Also don't forget the top 51 to final 53 will cost up to $2m or so...
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Correct. A little under. Here's what I see as our realistic cap situation:

Current Cap Space:$11,183,904
Top 51->53-$1,979,000 = $9,204,904
Signing Rookies-$1,069,000 = $8,135,904
Actual Cap Space:$8,135,904

But then there's the PS. Players on that count against the cap. A rookie, first, or second year players costs $216,000 for the season and a veteran costs up to $370,800 for the season. Let's assume 12/16 spots are kids and 4 are maximum vets. That's $4,075,200 for PS players.

So, doing some rounding, our functional actual usable cap space is about $4 million.

*That's excluding any space for in-season moves.

I should also add there's also potential savings in if players in the T53 don't make the team and get replaced by contracts outside the T53. For example, if Hardy makes the team as our returner, he has a cap hit of $830,000. Maybe he's competing against Hamler for that spot, whose cap hit is a zero-guaranteed $1,055,000. That cut and replace would free up nearly $200,000 in cap space. So if a handful of guys inside the T53 don't make the team, you maybe amass an extra million in cap space. Some bigger contracts to keep an eye out for here are Hollins (1.4 in cut savings) and Gilliam (1.8 in cut savings).
 
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Husko said:
Correct. A little under. Here's what I see as our realistic cap situation:

Current Cap Space:$11,183,904
Top 51->53-$1,979,000 = $9,204,904
Signing Rookies-$1,069,000 = $8,135,904
Actual Cap Space:$8,135,904

But then there's the PS. Players on that count against the cap. A rookie, first, or second year players costs $216,000 for the season and a veteran costs up to $370,800 for the season. Let's assume 12/16 spots are kids and 4 are maximum vets. That's $4,075,200 for PS players.

So, doing some rounding, our functional actual usable cap space is about $4 million.

*That's excluding any space for in-season moves.
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So basically we're unlikely to sign anyone substantial right now.
 
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Zman5778 said:
So basically we're unlikely to sign anyone substantial right now.
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I'd say if we sign anyone, a Poona Ford is more likely than a Leonard Flloyd.

We could sign someone for ~3 million and it would only add about 2 to our cap because of the T53 replacement. I'd say that's probably about the limit without adding void years.

(I think Smoot and MVS were our big additions, for better or worse)
 
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Husko said:
I'd say if we sign anyone, a Poona Ford is more likely than a Leonard Flloyd.

We could sign someone for ~3 million and it would only add about 2 to our cap because of the T53 replacement. I'd say that's probably about the limit without adding void years.

(I think Smoot and MVS were our big additions, for better or worse)
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I'm still hoping for Steve Nelson.
 
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Zman5778 said:
So basically we're unlikely to sign anyone substantial right now.
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4 million is actually quite a good chunk of change for what is left on the market. Especially considering how creative contracts can be. The question is does Beane love the room and keep the cap for in-season moves/rollover cap or is there a CB/LB/DE out there that could step in and play quality snaps.
 
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buffa dud said:
I really wish we had a player like Micah Parsons, but I'm glad we don't have the headache of dealing with Micah Parsons.
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It's weird for him to talk about re-setting the market for a non-QB next when his own teammate (Lamb) is trying to probably do the same and is actually in a contract year. The Jones' are going to use that stuff as leverage on Dak and Ceedee.
 

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I hate breaking up a good thing, but Beane should probably be looking at competition for Spencer Brown next draft. With Josh Allen and his tendency to drift right, it's a position of great potential value, and Brown has been more inconsistent then you'd like. Particularly for someone who's looking at UFA money.
 
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