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uncleben said:
Exactly, you take every Brayden Irwin, Casey Bailey, and Max Veronneau you can for the that once in a decade Tyler Bozak. We've got the money and development team, it's worth it
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I could agree more with this
 
francis246 said:
nick Robertson’s intensity limits him from being an effective player. Even in his NHL stints, he wasn’t creating plays. He was getting the puck and firing it from 20 feet out. That’s not effective, he’s too gittery and looked way out of depth. She is 100% right. He needs to settle down and play a calm game. The best players in the world look completely composed when they play.
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Jeez talk about jump on the b.s train. I seen none of that from him and have no idea what she is talking about. Intensity and poise are two completely different animals. You own both you are a player. I seen Robertson blow it off in questions and reiterate he has no quit or intention of giving up his intensity. He said he doesn’t know anything but basically.
You are a Leaf now, lose your intensity is the advice. Wow it doesn’t surprise me
 
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Wafflewhipper said:
Jeez talk about jump on the b.s train. I seen none of that from him and have no idea what she is talking about. Intensity and poise are two completely different animals. You own both you are a player. I seen Robertson blow it off in questions and reiterate he has no quit or intention of giving up his intensity. He said he doesn’t know anything but basically.
You are a Leaf now, lose your intensity is the advice. Wow it doesn’t surprise me
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no one said lose intensity, but he needs to reign it in a bit. In the videos he looks way better than he did before. It was probably a lot of nerves in his first couple NHL games. But he really did look a bit gittery and couldn’t really get into the play because of it. He had some great moments in the bubble. He is an NHL player for sure no one is denying that.
 
Mess said:
Remember the Leafs " Kid Kine" of John Anderson -- Laurie Boschman -- Rocky Saganiuk line.?

KIDLINE-AUTO.jpg


Now we are watching not their kids but their grand kids already.

Man does time fly when you're having fun.
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And Ballard got Boschman traded because he didn't want a guy that was a religious as LB was on his team. And of course he went on to have a 14 year career racking up 200+ PIMs/season and reaching 30 goals one season. He was a very good centre.
 
Was just thinking in like 1 or 2 years the leafs could have 2 deadly PP units when the likes of Amirov, Robertson, Abramov and Sandin are ready to come up.

Nylander Matthews Robertson
Rielly? Marner

Amirov Tavares Abramov
Sandin Muzzin
 
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francis246 said:
no one said lose intensity, but he needs to reign it in a bit. In the videos he looks way better than he did before. It was probably a lot of nerves in his first couple NHL games. But he really did look a bit gittery and couldn’t really get into the play because of it. He had some great moments in the bubble. He is an NHL player for sure no one is denying that.
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The Nhl is overwhelming. We all know that. It happens to every player and they all adapt at different rates. Playing structured,good defensively first and foremost and hard are good principles. Intensity is good. Chemistry will be the nice thing to watch growing if he takes a top 6 spit out of camp. That intensity of forcheck and cycle will be of great utility for him.
I really didn’t see anything wrong with his game in the important areas of team play/system,positioning. He didn’t run around.
 
They'll probably be split up to start, but a Robertson-Abramov-SDA line would be dynamite offensively at some point for the Marlies.

Abramov is probably the most interesting player to watch for the Marlies this year.
 
Wafflewhipper said:
Yep. Might be a good scoring winger also that fills in at center when you need. He’s good. He’s got some jam to his game.
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I'm really high on him, I see our team looking kind of like this within the next 18-24 months...

Amirov-Matthews-Nylander
Robertson-Tavares-Marner
Ritchie/Bunting-Abramov-Free Agent/Trade/Kase
Holmberg-Brooks/Free Agent-Anderson

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Liljegren
Sandin-Free Agent

Campbell
Mrazek
 
hockeynorth said:
I'm really high on him, I see our team looking kind of like this within the next 18-24 months...

Amirov-Matthews-Nylander
Robertson-Tavares-Marner
Ritchie/Bunting-Abramov-Free Agent/Trade/Kase
Holmberg-Brooks/Free Agent-Anderson

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Liljegren
Sandin-Free Agent

Campbell
Mrazek
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You split up Matthews and Marner. Hopefully Keefe is as wise as you are and does it this year. A healthy Tavares with Marner and Ritchie hopefully gets more than a good look. If Robertson puts on a show in main camp like he is showing in rookie camp he is taking a top 6 spot. He looks revved.
Robertson/Matthews/Nylander would be some scoring threat.

I like Ritchie on this roster so much knowing he will clean up on whoever thinks they are going to take liberties with any of our stars and it will potentially happen instantly with the big mans attitude.

This roster might all want to cone in to every game with more attitude to a man and put all the years of getting intimidated behind them. About time there is a nasty Pr!ck like Ritchie right there to tune up whoever asks for it.

The offense is there in the system but we can never go down that road of not having some nasty pieces of work in the lineup to compliment our offensively oriented somewhat passive players.

I have no appetite for passivity ever coming even close again to what we were subjected to by Dubas’s flawed approach to team building. He really did adapt this off season to that. This roster won’t be pushed around and thats so huge.
 
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Wafflewhipper said:
You split up Matthews and Marner. Hopefully Keefe is as wise as you are and does it this year. A healthy Tavares with Marner and Ritchie hopefully gets more than a good look. If Robertson puts on a show in main camp like he is showing in rookie camp he is taking a top 6 spot. He looks revved.
Robertson/Matthews/Nylander would be some scoring threat.

I like Ritchie on this roster so much knowing he will clean up on whoever thinks they are going to take liberties with any of our stars and it will potentially happen instantly with the big mans attitude.

This roster might all want to cone in to every game with more attitude to a man and put all the years of getting intimidated behind them. About time there is a nasty Pr!ck like Ritchie right there to tune up whoever asks for it.

The offense is there in the system but we can never go down that road of not having some nasty pieces of work in the lineup to compliment our offensively oriented somewhat passive players.

I have no appetite for passivity ever coming even close again to what we were subjected to by Dubas’s flawed approach to team building. He really did adapt this off season to that. This roster won’t be pushed around and thats so huge.
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As you can probably tell by my profile pic, I'm a big Dubas guy but I can also definitely accept there's been some mistakes. I didn't like the vets he brought in for this past season but this seasons iteration of the Leafs looks like a good mix of the prior two years. I quite like the Ritchie and Kase additions, not to mention Bunting. The mentality is also why I want Joey Anderson to get a shot, he's a real work horse.

I doubt Robertson makes it from camp, but if he does then our depth does look really good. I see our depth chart like this right now for this year:

LW- C - RW
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Nylander - Matthews - Marner

Ritchie - Tavares - Kase

Bunting - Kerfoot - Mikheyev

Engvall - Kampf - Spezza

Robertson - Semyonov - Simmonds

Amirov* (after KHL Season) - Brooks - Gabriel

Steeves - Amadio - Ho-Sang* (PTO)

Holmberg* (after SHL Season) - Abramov - Anderson

Gogolev* (big dark horse for games at the end of the year)

LD - RD
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Rielly - Brodie

Muzzin - Holl

Dermott - Liljegren

Sandin - Biega

Dahlstrom - Menell

Hollowell

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Campbell

Mrazek

Hutchinson

Kallgren

All the guys I listed are guys I think could see an NHL game or more at some point this year
 
Knies iT said:
They'll probably be split up to start, but a Robertson-Abramov-SDA line would be dynamite offensively at some point for the Marlies.

Abramov is probably the most interesting player to watch for the Marlies this year.
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I expect Amirov, Robertson and Anderson to all be on the Leafs for the 22-23 season but can you imagine a Marlies squad like this:

Robertson SDA Anderson
Amirov Abramov Abruzzese
Gogolev Hirvonen Miettinen
Holmberg

Kral Niemela
Villeneuve Koster


Thats a nice group of offensively talented players. Would like to see us get deeper at the center ice position in the pool. Not sure all the guys could end up at center in the NHL. Would be nice to get a little bigger up the middle as well.
 
Gabriel426 said:
Essentially a better version of Kerfoot
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No way i am comparing Kerfoot to Abramov :)
Kerfoot’s $3,500,000 does nothing to supersede his incredible work ethic and devensive quality. If Kerfoot had a $2,000,000 contract i would not say trade him and definitely keep him in the bottom 6 with confidence. Kerfoot needs some brutal, nasty wingers that cause havoc with him and to cost less and i love him lol
 
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