Pre-Game Talk: Training Camp 2022/23

[lomiller1]

Is Perfetti a lock this season to be on roster opening night ?

I think so, but who knows if the coaching staff feels the same way. Maybe I'm just jaded from a decade of young players who should be in the lineup not being there. That includes guys like Connor and Ehlers who were not there when they clearly should have been.

 

[John Agar]

Oh look...

We have a PxP guy...

"Enough about Me"...

 

[ThinIce61]

Anxious to see what Saku Marmalude can do.

Shut up Sawyer.

 

[DRW204]

Is Perfetti a lock this season to be on roster opening night ?

Id say 99%. There's no other viable top 6ers as it stands on this roster since copp and Stastny are gone. and he's been at TC next to dubois

 

[SensibleGuy]

Goo jerts goo!!

 

[John Agar]

Let's see what Chaz can do...

Was always in the right place in O'zone during the early camp games...

'Red Light' Rittich in goal to start...

 

[SensibleGuy]

Oops!

 

[ThinIce61]

Well. Goes to "Will the Jets be a playoff team" and clicks NO.

 

[SUX2BU]

The new guy is doing good on the play by play

 

[superdeluxe]

What’s the word with Bauer? Any inkling it’s going to be the Moose or Seattle?

 

[Atoyot]

What’s the word with Bauer? Any inkling it’s going to be the Moose or Seattle?

Already a big logjam on the Moose, I'd guess he'd be going back for his overage year or going to the ECHL to be an injury call up.

Aside: is anybody else getting anywhere between 3 and 6 ads per page for the movie Bros or is that just me?

 

[enuffidiotsalready]

Already a big logjam on the Moose, I'd guess he'd be going back for his overage year or going to the ECHL to be an injury call up.

Aside: is anybody else getting anywhere between 3 and 6 ads per page for the movie Bros or is that just me?

go see bros playing at a theatre near you
don't forget to like and subscribe

 

[Atoyot]

go see bros playing at a theatre near you
don't forget to like and subscribe

 

[Eyeseeing]

Sounds like an awful idea

It’s turning out to be just that.

 

[DRW204]

That second line could produce 70 goals. 30 for Dubois, 20 each for Perfetti and Wheeler. The challenge is you need ~100 goals from the bottom 6 and the defence.

Yep that top line could score 100 goals, but 2nd line? Is Wheeler going to develop into a finisher now that he isn't the C? I mean he does have a decent shot. Seems like there could be some changes. I like that there are two bigger bodied players around Perfetti though, I still don't think the kid's ready for the corners of the ice.

I was looking through those lines and I think you have an idea of what the coach is looking for. 4th line with Gus in the middle of Toninato and Gagner looks like something that could stick, all can play on the PK. Barron hasn't played, but I imagine he's probably going to take Harkins spot on the 3rd line.

If Torgersson-Zhilkin-Lambert start together in preseason that could be a line to watch, for the future.

Was curious on this

Of d groups in the nhl... Unsurprisingly Colorado is at the top in goals from their Defense with 64, average was 36.5, and Detroit was at the bottom with 20.

WPG was 3rd worst with 24. I just don't see the shooting talent in the defense for another 12-15 goals. We were 12th in shots so not for a lack of opportunity.

Our bottom-6 was like 35-40 goals last year (didn't know how much Svech had in the top 6 vs not, so just assumed 50%).

100 goals from bottom 6+defense is quite the task. That's +40 goals from last year.

 

[bustamente]

 

[DRW204]

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Was curious on this

Of d groups in the nhl... Unsurprisingly Colorado is at the top in goals from their Defense with 64, average was 36.5, and Detroit was at the bottom with 20.

WPG was 3rd worst with 24. I just don't see the shooting talent in the defense for another 12-15 goals. We were 12th in shots so not for a lack of opportunity.

Our bottom-6 was like 35-40 goals last year (didn't know how much Svech had in the top 6 vs not, so just assumed 50%).

100 goals from bottom 6+defense is quite the task. That's +40 goals from last year.

80 from those groups plus 25 fewer GA is a huge turnaround. That would mean about +40 in goal differential compared to -5 last year. That would have been right between Edm & Pitt for 12th overall last year.

 

[surixon]

Was curious on this

Of d groups in the nhl... Unsurprisingly Colorado is at the top in goals from their Defense with 64, average was 36.5, and Detroit was at the bottom with 20.

WPG was 3rd worst with 24. I just don't see the shooting talent in the defense for another 12-15 goals. We were 12th in shots so not for a lack of opportunity.

Our bottom-6 was like 35-40 goals last year (didn't know how much Svech had in the top 6 vs not, so just assumed 50%).

100 goals from bottom 6+defense is quite the task. That's +40 goals from last year.

You have to wonder if the move towards a much more active and aggressive dcore with a mandate to increase goals scored gives Heinola the leg up over Samberg and Stanley. His game is perfectly suited for the new template.

 

[Buffdog]

I'm curious to see how schief buys into this new aggressive style, starting tonight

 

[DRW204]

You have to wonder if the move towards a much more active and aggressive dcore with a mandate to increase goals scored gives Heinola the leg up over Samberg and Stanley. His game is perfectly suited for the new template.

i wonder if our d should be more secondary and accessory pieces in terms of offense. playmaking either via rush or off cycle, or holding the line better to prolong offense. none of our defense i foresee high goal totals from and like i mentioned they're already 12th in Shots For last season, but terrible sh% (evidently). maybe its just scoring opportunities wasted.

 

[surixon]

i wonder if our d should be more secondary and accessory pieces in terms of offense. playmaking either via rush or off cycle, or holding the line better to prolong offense. none of our defense i foresee high goal totals from and like i mentioned they're already 12th in Shots For last season, but terrible sh% (evidently). maybe its just scoring opportunities wasted.

It is also likely due to shot location as well. Really only JoMo got into high dangerous shot locations with any regularity. It's not a surprise he posted career high in goals when he doubled his career average in IXGF% last year. So if we get more d shots from better locations I'd imagine that would lead to some more goals.

But I do agree that we might be best off using our defense to create odd man breaks and have them as more of a playmaking option. Outside of JoMo I'd peg all of Schmidt/Pionk/Heinola as better playmaker then shooters.

Still average goal years from JoMo, Schmidt, Pionk puts us at a starting point of 18. Can we get 12 from the remainder? It likely is a tough task unless we get another big goal year from JoMo or someone else.

 

[DRW204]

It is also likely due to shot location as well. Really only JoMo got into high dangerous shot locations with any regularity. It's not a surprise he posted career high in goals when he doubled his career average in IXGF% last year. So if we get more d shots from better locations I'd imagine that would lead to some more goals.

But I do agree that we might be best off using our defense to create odd man breaks and have them as more of a playmaking option. Outside of JoMo I'd peg all of Schmidt/Pionk/Heinola as better playmaker then shooters.

Still average goal years from JoMo, Schmidt, Pionk puts us at a starting point of 18. Can we get 12 from the remainder? It likely is a tough task unless we get another big goal year from JoMo or someone else.

shot location is fine. they were pretty high in xGF generated from the back-end (dont have their ranking on-hand atm but remember looking at it the other day), as well as xGF generated per shot. they're flat out not good finishers. pionk's career-high is 6, dillon is 6 ages ago (he has 7 goals in his past 4 years), demelo has 1 goal in 4 years, and schmidt's career-high is 9.

whoever plays pp1 will have goal scoring opportunities & high totals. morrissey got 200 mins of pp time and 6 goals off that hence him achieving a career high. but collectively i don't see this group putting up high-totals. at least to the point where they can put a dent in that 100 goals from the defense+bottom-6 that the OP illustrated.

 

[JetsFan815]

The awkwardness is that locker room if they not only strip the C from Wheeler but also demote him from PP1. PP is one situation where his positive impact is beyond debate .

 

[bumblebeeman]

The awkwardness is that locker room if they not only strip the C from Wheeler but also demote him from PP1. PP is one situation where his positive impact is beyond debate .

Whenever I've played hockey and guys got demoted it wasn't that awkward. These are guys are extra competitive tho, but they are also professionals. I don't think it will be an issue