Pre-Game Talk: Training Camp 2022/23

[howkie]

Maybe it is time for Wheeler to shut up during training, his history of dividing the team and taken of the C should maybe make him know his place...

 

[DRW204]

 

[GumbyCan2]

League average was 255 goals last year, and the Jets were below both on offense and defense. I think the challenge is to get below 3 GAA, and improvement in d-zone coverage, and penalty killing should get there. I'm not so worried about getting to 255 goals, that's a 5 goal improvement from last year's team, and right off the hop I think that tothe line will set the pace. Seems like they are clicking.

Thanks for the stats on that. I thought they were pretty sub-par last year for sure. Lets hope for better team-wise and improved 2ndary, 3rd-line ouput. Coach Bones is known to help coach successful D-scoring opportunity systems. Hoping for improvement!

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[bustamente]

I really want to see great efforts from all but especially Eyssimont there might be a spot for him if he shows well and Chisholm maybe not this year but a great showing would benefit him for the future.

 

[Weezeric]

Any guesses on lines?

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Ahh, the pre-season opener AKA the last pick in the season ticket group draft.

 

[voyageur]

I really want to see great efforts from all but especially Eyssimont there might be a spot for him if he shows well and Chisholm maybe not this year but a great showing would benefit him for the future.

These road games are the worst in preseason. Other teams play their stars, and you play your callups. Should be sloppy.

I am hoping Lucius gets a look on the Dubois-Perfetti line, to see how far away he is.

Otherwise the tryout will be for 3rd or 4th line, 13th player, or first callup for the rest of that forward group. Eyssimont probably fits into the latter category, unless he has a standout camp.

I wonder how the d-pairings sort out, do Stanley-De Melo start out together? Metrics say that's a real good pairing. In camp it was Chisholm-De Melo, Stanley-Gawanke. The Jets might want to see how high the ceiling is for Chisholm this camp.

More importantly I hope training camp actually means something. In the past we've had players like JC Lipon, or more recently Gustafsson have impressive camps only to get demoted, because the roster was already set.

 

[Weezeric]

I’m hoping to see Perfetti-PLD-Appleton

 

[ps241]

Honestly, I must be the only HFBoards member who doesn’t care about the line construction. They’ll get it figured out and it will probably change a fair amount during the season.

 

[Buffdog]

Lol Dubois being punished for his draft stunt by being sent to Edmonton for a preseason game with all the rooks and ahl'ers

 

[Flyby]

Is there any television/ streaming coverage of the game?

 

[Flyby]

And have they not announced who our new play by play guy is yet?

 

[WolfHouse]

I’m hoping to see Perfetti-PLD-Appleton

I’d kind of like to see that as our second line

 

[pateramus]

My quick thought from training camp interviews so far:

-Scheifs looks excited to be with the team and will do his best to have a great season. But if the Jets flop again this season, he wants to win and I don’t think will want to be part of a large or mini rebuild so this season Will be crucial for his long-term stay with the Jets

-Wheeler is a good dude that cares about the team a lot and is really hard on himself. I think captaincy was a big burden on him and hopefully he can enjoy this season. I would love to see him get a cup here.

-Buffs departure really was a huge catalyst for the team. Probably the single largest effect on the overall team that we’ve ever had. Jets team is still feeling the effects of his departure years later.

-Dubois looks pumped for the season as well but when he was asked about potentially being a leader on the team he danced around the question. I have a hard time seeing him choosing to stay here. I hope I’m wrong.

 

[AlaskaJet]

Gettin fiesty

Sure it was, but hey…and DuBois should know this already…aren’t all of Stanley’s sticks high?

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Is there any television/ streaming coverage of the game?

Tsn3 I believe has it on

 

[voyageur]

Honestly, I must be the only HFBoards member who doesn’t care about the line construction. They’ll get it figured out and it will probably change a fair amount during the season.

That kind of sounds like Rick Bowness's answer to the question of how Gagner ended up with Gustafsson, "ended up there when we were making lines." I'm sure there's a bit more logic than that that goes into it. I think the scrimmage lines have some indication of team direction. Which looks like top 6, bottom 6, which is something I know you weren't fond of. One thing that stood out to me is that there is a RH shot on every line, balancing things out, and that might be an objective that wasn't there in the past. Not sure if it will last. You are right that lines are never set in stone, and even the best lines get broken up, and injuries, slumps, and hot streaks will create some changes. Preseason won't be a good indication of what combinations go forward, as the coaching staff will probably rest a lot of the vets. If the scrimmage is an early indication we're going to see some changes, whatever effect they have, which include breaking up Scheifele and Wheeler, and I'd be surprised if Dubois isn't tied to Perfetti for much of the year. Scheifele's line looks like the kind of a line you would want if you are planning to re-sign your number one centre, getting the two best wingers. So I think the combinations are important.

 

[tbcwpg]

That kind of sounds like Rick Bowness's answer to the question of how Gagner ended up with Gustafsson, "ended up there when we were making lines." I'm sure there's a bit more logic than that that goes into it. I think the scrimmage lines have some indication of team direction. Which looks like top 6, bottom 6, which is something I know you weren't fond of. One thing that stood out to me is that there is a RH shot on every line, balancing things out, and that might be an objective that wasn't there in the past. Not sure if it will last. You are right that lines are never set in stone, and even the best lines get broken up, and injuries, slumps, and hot streaks will create some changes. Preseason won't be a good indication of what combinations go forward, as the coaching staff will probably rest a lot of the vets. If the scrimmage is an early indication we're going to see some changes, whatever effect they have, which include breaking up Scheifele and Wheeler, and I'd be surprised if Dubois isn't tied to Perfetti for much of the year. Scheifele's line looks like the kind of a line you would want if you are planning to re-sign your number one centre, getting the two best wingers. So I think the combinations are important.

I think Bowness will want to cut down the roster fairly quickly and give the team more time to adjust to what he's asking them to do instead of resting them and hoping it works out with camp drills and a few practices. I think he'll want to see the players who might actually be playing meaningful minutes with the team more than playing the bare minimum all the time and some kids and AHLers who probably won't see the NHL roster this year.

 

[Nickel eye Heel hers]

Any way to watch it in BC?

 

[Jets]

Any guesses on lines?

Probably something like

Perfetti - Dubois - Appleton
Harkins - Lucius - Reichel
Malott - Stenlund - Eyssimont
Toninato - Gustafsson - Maenalanen

 

[voyageur]

I think Bowness will want to cut down the roster fairly quickly and give the team more time to adjust to what he's asking them to do instead of resting them and hoping it works out with camp drills and a few practices. I think he'll want to see the players who might actually be playing meaningful minutes with the team more than playing the bare minimum all the time and some kids and AHLers who probably won't see the NHL roster this year.

Preseason is essentially meaningless. I think the older guys like Wheeler and Gagner won't play much. So you'll see the replacement level players getting their shot to make an impression. We'll get to see the new top line for the home games. I'm excited to see what the coaching changes bring in terms of systematic changes, Whether it be a more aggressive forecheck, defense activating, and particularly how different the d-zone coverage is.

I don't think there are a lot of roster spots available, but you might get one player who wins a job based on TC.

It's a clean slate for everyone.

 

[tbcwpg]

Preseason is essentially meaningless. I think the older guys like Wheeler and Gagner won't play much. So you'll see the replacement level players getting their shot to make an impression. We'll get to see the new top line for the home games. I'm excited to see what the coaching changes bring in terms of systematic changes, Whether it be a more aggressive forecheck, defense activating, and particularly how different the d-zone coverage is.

I don't think there are a lot of roster spots available, but you might get one player who wins a job based on TC.

It's a clean slate for everyone.

I still think we'll see some earlier cuts than usual, but we'll see. The team has been rested since April and some of these players are slow starters. I don't think they can afford to rest too many games.

 

[Zippity]

Dan Robertson CONFIRMED

 

[SensibleGuy]

Dan Robertson (extremely-quietly) CONFIRMED

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