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PromisedLand said:
I don't agree!

What about the past playoffs performance tells you Leafs are contenders?
What about our goalies' performance this season tells you Leafs are contenders?
What about Matthews, Marner and Nylander not being able to do much when time and space is taken away from then and they keep playing perimeter hockey tells you Leafs are contenders?
On top of that you have Tavares at 11 AAV still on the cap; a significantly declining asset.

Sometimes you just have to take a step back and re-evaluate to take 10 steps forward. This is the time to take the step back and let Tavares' contract run its course and Retool!

As that song goes...

"You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em' know when to walk away know when to run" ;)
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You're asking so many questions that are just loaded without any sort of logical thinking. But the conclusion isn't wrong I guess.

Ovechkin was 33 years old when he first won his cup with many years of heartbreak. Panthers were 1 point away from being eliminated last year and made it to the finals. Sometimes you just gotta keep digging, improving and hoping the right things fall into place. Maybe it never will.

But we do suck and nothing will ever go right. Might as well just blow it up.
 
SprDaVE said:
I don't disagree at all. It's a balance though. We need to also be able to move the puck and get out of the defensive zone with the puck.
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Yep, and you need some help on offense from the D like jumping up on rushes, extending cycles in the o zone, making plays...

Last year in the playoffs, we were hard-pressed to generate anything when Rielly wasn't on the ice. Seems like it will be the case again this year if we go with a bottom 4 of pure defensive D guys with no offensive instincts. When the Leafs are trailing late in games, can't play Rielly for 20 minutes straight...
 
ToneDog said:
Vancouver and Winnipeg were a mess last year and here we are, and the Leafs are the same old same old, losers. We deserve better yet some think we should be bowing down and praising God for what the 3 amighosts do in the regular season.
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3 amighosts

This is perfect.

How much did I yell at Marner for not having the brains to shoot at an empty net yesterday, when it was still 2-1?

Mentally weak and not built for playoff hockey, and Marner will be exposed again this playoffs.

Pretty done with the guy. Appreciate his talent but he’s not someone you win with outside of Junior.

Not worth what he will demand in his next contract.
 
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Evilhomer said:
It will come as a big surprise to many people that toughness isn't evidenced by the willingness to fight to shove a guy after a whistle. Being able to do that stuff is basic table stakes, but teams win because their star players play better than other teams star players. Just look at any recent Cup champion and that is the "formula":

Vegas
Colorado
Tampa
Chicago
etc.
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I'm talking about our stars unwillingness to get inside against tough teams, which they have never shown. The guy who quoted my original post said we didn't play scared, when our stars clearly aren't willing to do what it takes to win.

I'm not saying Nylander or Marner need to hit or throw big hits, but they need to be willing to get inside if they care about winning.
 
Of course the B's bring in Maroon. Always beefing up every deadline. Will definitely make them that much harder to play.
 
Warden of the North said:
Because you just don't know. Who thought that Boston would go out in the first round last year? This is hockey, wierd shit happens single spring.

We're locked into this core, you have to go all in every year, or you might as well just start over and trade them all.
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Then start over

The first paragraph doesn’t hold because it isn’t as simple as “weird shit happens”

Tampa got swept by Columbus because Columbus players played harder. Outworked tampa every game, period, shift.

Florida did the same to Boston, they took it straight to Boston and didn’t wilt when the time came, down 2-1 in game 7 in TD garden and they not only tie the game but win in OT? Leafs would end that game losing 5-1 after empty netters because our guys just can’t do what others big guys can. They used a relentless forecheck and an incredibly physical style to pressure teams to make mistakes and capitalized

They didn’t just “let weird shit happen”, they made weird shit happen with their play

Our guys don’t have the drive, effort, and frankly the “playoff talent” required to do what other stars in the league have to make that stuff happen

Standing pat is a good decision, the team isn’t good enough and gutting it further won’t help anyways since the core will not show up either way
 
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Evilhomer said:
It will come as a big surprise to many people that toughness isn't evidenced by the willingness to fight to shove a guy after a whistle. Being able to do that stuff is basic table stakes, but teams win because their star players play better than other teams star players. Just look at any recent Cup champion and that is the "formula":

Vegas
Colorado
Tampa
Chicago
etc.
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I'm talking about our stars unwillingness to get inside against tough teams, which they have never shown. The guy who quoted my original post said we didn't play scared, when our stars clearly aren't willing to do what it takes to win.

I'm not saying Nylander or Marner need to hit or throw big hits, but they need to be willing to get inside if they care about winning.
 
SprDaVE said:
You're asking so many questions that are just loaded without any sort of logical thinking. But they aren't wrong.

Ovechkin was 33 years old when he first won his cup with many years of heartbreak. Panthers were 1 point away from being eliminated last year and made it to the finals. Sometimes you just gotta keep digging and hoping the right time falls into place. Maybe it never will.

But we do suck and nothing will ever go right. Might as well just blow it up.
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Ovi was 33 years old when he won the cup because he changed the way he played the game. Plenty of quotes from Ovi himself and Trotz for that matter.

Florida played nasty hockey and got amazing goal tending from Bob.

what about Matthews, Marner and Nylander have you seen in post season that tells you they are playing different hockey that would lead to positive outcomes? On top of that we are not getting above avg goal tending either. We have a rookie goalie and samsonov.

Any manager in any field has to be prudent and take calculated risks given the circumstances he faces relative to his own framework and his competitors.

By no means are Leafs contenders in my calculations given their history and current team outlook especially from the high AAV players
 
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egd27 said:
Well at least International Women's Day is only once a year, shame it fell on Trade Deadline Day. :rolleyes:

Oh look......Malcolm Subban to the Jackets for Future considerations..............let's get into that
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All the more reason to put interesting/entertaining talent on the show.

All this astroturfed bs does it make people resentful the whole thing.

But any honest person would rather be watching Grapes right now instead we get this.
 
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PromisedLand said:
Ovi was 33 years old when he won the cup because he changed the way he played the game. Plenty of quotes from Ovi himself and Trotz for that matter.

Florida played nasty hockey and got amazing goal tending from Bob.

what about Matthews, Marner and Nylander have you seen in post season that tells you they are playing different hockey that would lead to positive outcomes? On top of that we are not getting above avg goal tending either. We have a rookie goalie and samsonov.

Any manager in any field has to be prudent and take calculated risks given the circumstances he faces relative to his own framework and his competitors.

By no means are Leafs contenders in my calculations given their history and current team outlook especially from the high AAV players
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Imagine if the Caps had given up on 26 year old Ovechkin? As far as I know, the Caps certainly did not start selling or hoarding draft picks just because they sucked in the playoffs.
 
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Our D is actually looking pretty tough.

I wonder if we could've had Tanev for what we paid for our 2 new adds? I'm guessing no or ìt would've been done.

I do hope Holmberg plays over Gregor, I've really liked what he brings. Honestly Alex Wennberg may have been a pretty ideal fit.

Can we get Lars Eller for a bargain?

Dunno
 
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So is Buchnevich going to get moved or not? I’m shocked he’s still out there
 
PromisedLand said:
Imagine Ovi didn't change the way he played to win the cup. plenty of quotes from him. One google search would prove this
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Ok so if 26+ year old Ovechkin can do it... maybe just maybe... you know, I think you know where this is going and exactly the point I'm trying to make
 
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