Trades & Free Agency Thread - Too Soon Off-Season Edition

[ryno23]

You look at this list and find a trading partner for Marner. Look at Marner right at the bottom. I would target Bo Horvat if you can fleece Benning which can happen.

 

[Legion34]

The hope is that with the cap savings from marner to Jones you can still add a top 6/9 W hopefully with some jam and at the same time you bolster the back end with a true all situation #1 D who can drive offence from the back end

sure but I’m assuming there is an extension? We can’t just keep going for 1 year fixes
Cramming the cap down. Jones would be making 8 plus I am assuming the next year.....

 

[4thline]

We are in some unprecedented times right now for this franchise

I'm talking league wide. I simply can't remember a team having that turbulent of an offseason.

Would be hella fun though

 

[Nylanderthal]

sure but I’m assuming there is an extension? We can’t just keep going for 1 year fixes
Cramming the cap down. Jones would be making 8 plus I am assuming the next year.....

8m for Jones still frees up 3m for a forward and I think you’re better off with that if the money is spent wisely

 

[hockeynorth]

8m for Jones still frees up 3m for a forward and I think you’re better off with that if the money is spent wisely

I'd rather try and get Werenski than Jones, but I'm not a big Jones guy

TBH I'd just try and trade Marner for a forward and sign Hamilton or Martinez or someone like that. Our blueline is pretty good.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I feel you, new blood is always good. I like Rielly a lot and think he's a good mentor and guy to have here bc like Nylander he doesn't get phased by the pressure, but the extension worries me too. I think if he comes in at 7x7 or less I'd be happy, that feels very reasonable to me.

While I understand it, my opinion, and mine alone is that I would rather turn the page. Ditto with Hyman.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

I agree...... but. Was the D really the problem here? In the last 3 playoffs. There were barely any goals scored or high danger chances against.
The offence didn’t show up in game 7 2 years in a row.

For me, it's more about restructuring the cap.

If it's possible to bring in cheaper star forwards then I suppose that's a good option too.

At the very least, Jones is a proper #1D that puts up points and has a good shot on the PP. Imagine having a shot like this on the backend.

 

[Gallagbi]

I'm talking league wide. I simply can't remember a team having that turbulent of an offseason.

Would be hella fun though

I can't remember a team with this much talent failing to get out of the first round for 5 consecutive seasons (while also making the playoffs) and losing 8 potential series clinching games over that span.

I won't say I predict it, but I won't be at all surprised if we go into next year with 50-60% new personnel, including a revamped top 6 and bottom 4 and goalie tandem (I expect Campbell back, but don't think he's given the reigns)

 

[hockeynorth]

While I understand it, my opinion, and mine alone is that I would rather turn the page. Ditto with Hyman.

I love Hyman lol

but HIS contract scares me a lot

 

[Brobust]

CJ on Sportsnet radio

• Shanahan, Dubas safe.
• Keefe possibly fired. Regular season is on GM. Playoffs is on coach.
• On Marner - as big an asset as Eichel. Leafs need to recoup assets after going all in.
• Coming off season is about young, buy low candidate instead of geezers. Except for Spezza who is most likely coming back.

 

[Puckstuff]

We had problems but the biggest was the following:

1) Keefe's inability to split Matthews/Marner and get them away from Danault. This really was the difference in the series. Matthews could not operate.

There were other reasons as well such as

2) The power play.

3) Muzzin and J.T injuries.

however I don't think blowing it up is the answer. It's not like you "blow it up" and it guarantees you anything. It has risks and the news guys have to go through the same learning curve that the current guys are going through now.



Here's what I'd do.

1) Transition Thornton to retirement.

2) Drop Mikheyev to the 4th line. He is a useful player but has no finish. More suitable for 4th line.

3) Bring up Robertson in Joe's spot and pick up another goal scorer at the deadline. We need more goal scoring to mitigate risk of Matthews and Marner getting shutdown again.

4) Pick up Hertl or Perron at the deadline using Tampa Bay's cap circumvention playbook.

5) Reunite Hyman-Engvall-Mikheyev line.

6) Galy can come back on league minimum because he looks good with Nylander or he can leave if he wants a cent more then a million.




PWF?-Matthews-Hertl
Robertson-Tavares-Marner
Galchenyuk-Brooks-Nylander
Hyman-Engvall-Mikheyev

4 lines that have a difference maker.



Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Dermott-Bogosian

(defence was not the problem)

1A
Campbell

Need a 1A goalie badly.

 

[Nylanderthal]

I'd rather try and get Werenski than Jones, but I'm not a big Jones guy

TBH I'd just try and trade Marner for a forward and sign Hamilton or Martinez or someone like that. Our blueline is pretty good.

That’s a good option too, but I’m trying to be realistic and not just play nhl21. I’d love to flip Mitch to say Calgary or Ottawa for a tkachuck but why would either team do that? I’m trying to see logical fits for both teams. Columbus is natural. I’m sure once the playoffs are over and we get into the offseason and the expansion draft etc. more will become clear.

 

[WTFMAN99]

CJ on Sportsnet radio

• Shanahan, Dubas safe.
• Keefe possibly fired. Regular season is on GM. Playoffs is on coach.
• On Marner - as big an asset as Eichel. Leafs need to recoup assets after going all in.
• Coming off season is about young, buy low candidate instead of geezers. Except for Spezza who is most likely coming back.

I don't see Dubas having the balls to fire Keefe.

 

[hockeynorth]

That’s a good option too, but I’m trying to be realistic and not just play nhl21. I’d love to flip Mitch to say Calgary or Ottawa for a tkachuck but why would either team do that? I’m trying to see logical fits for both teams. Columbus is natural. I’m sure once the playoffs are over and we get into the offseason and the expansion draft etc. more will become clear.

I don't see Jones as a fit that makes sense, being on an expiring contract.

Teams that may make sense:
Arizona - known to be needing a star, also have pieces they can move
Anaheim - apparently Anaheim will be looking to make a big move this summer
Buffalo - Eichel
Carolina - they're always rumoured to be in on big fish and should have the cap if Hamilton walks, along with the pieces to pull it off
Calgary - also should be retooling this summer
Columbus - enough's been said there
Minnesota - also should be looking to make a big move this summer, could be moving a real good D ahead of ED
New Jersey - they need elite wingers, but don't think they have what we'd want
Philadelphia - was in on Laine, Marner is a better version, have tons in the way of win-now pieces
Vancouver - extremely disgruntled group, some guys want out, they'll be looking to make a move. I'd target them and try to get Boeser +
Washington - also retooling hard this summer, don't know if they have what we would want though

This is just a first glance too, and I wouldn't discount Vegas, Florida, Dallas or the Rangers either

 

[fahad203]

Mikhayev and Simmonds needs GTFO

I dont' care how fast Mika is, he's soft as butter. Dude doesn't bring anything other than a body
In 12 games from last year, dude doesn't have a single point

His linemates Engvall and Simmonds somehow has a point

These vanilla players don't get you far. You need players who can hit and who can skate

 

[Legion34]

CJ on Sportsnet radio

• Shanahan, Dubas safe.
• Keefe possibly fired. Regular season is on GM. Playoffs is on coach.
• On Marner - as big an asset as Eichel. Leafs need to recoup assets after going all in.
• Coming off season is about young, buy low candidate instead of geezers. Except for Spezza who is most likely coming back.

wait was he suggesting marner gets traded for futures?

 

[Faltorvo]

I love Hyman lol

but HIS contract scares me a lot

then don't pay him,,he is part of this loser core

we have 5 years of flat cap coming,,either he takes a small raise or let him walk

 

[Menzinger]

While I think the Leafs may make a big pitch to Dougie Hamilton if he hits free agency (who also happens to be my preference), but one think that strikes me about the Jones focus is this team doesn't really need that much help on D. They were averaging less than 2 goals against over the course of that playoff series.

This team needs help to be able to score in the post season more than defend against itb

 

[TMLegend]

If the Leafs do trade one of Nylander/Marner(hopefully Marner) I think thet should target a futures/prospect oriented package. Simultaneously shifting the cap structure of the team while recouping the draft capital they've spent recently. I know it won't be popular most likely, but sometimes you have to take a step back so hopefully you can take 2 steps forward at a later date.

 

[ryno23]

While I think the Leafs may make a big pitch to Dougie Hamilton if he hits free agency (who also happens to be my preference), but one think that strikes me about the Jones focus is this team doesn't really need that much help on D. They were averaging less than 2 goals against over the course of that playoff series.

This team needs help to be able to score in the post season more than defend against itb

What people think is if you can get Jones signed for 7 million is he better than Reilly at 7 million? Bigger D who plays physically has a bomb from the point on the PP and can skate for a big man.

 

[stickty111]

This is the hilarious part. We couldn't score for 2 playoffs in a row, and the league is saying get more defence? Yeah lets lose 1-0 instead of 2-0 next time. NHL will never advance as a league with 1950's thinking.

 

[LaPlante94]

I don't see Jones as a fit that makes sense, being on an expiring contract.

Teams that may make sense:
Arizona - known to be needing a star, also have pieces they can move
Anaheim - apparently Anaheim will be looking to make a big move this summer
Buffalo - Eichel
Carolina - they're always rumoured to be in on big fish and should have the cap if Hamilton walks, along with the pieces to pull it off
Calgary - also should be retooling this summer
Columbus - enough's been said there
Minnesota - also should be looking to make a big move this summer, could be moving a real good D ahead of ED
New Jersey - they need elite wingers, but don't think they have what we'd want
Philadelphia - was in on Laine, Marner is a better version, have tons in the way of win-now pieces
Vancouver - extremely disgruntled group, some guys want out, they'll be looking to make a move. I'd target them and try to get Boeser +
Washington - also retooling hard this summer, don't know if they have what we would want though

This is just a first glance too, and I wouldn't discount Vegas, Florida, Dallas or the Rangers either

I wish we'd try and make something work with LA. Akil Thomas is one guy I've wanted since his draft year and Markus Phillips was a D man I wanted his draft year too. They got other good prospects but these 2 are the 2 I remember mainly because I wanted us to draft them.

 

[hockeynorth]

I wish we'd try and make something work with LA. Akil Thomas is one guy I've wanted since his draft year and Markus Phillips was a D man I wanted his draft year too. They got other good prospects but these 2 are the 2 I remember mainly because I wanted us to draft them.

I don't think it makes sense for LA tbh

 

[Clark4Ever]

CJ on Sportsnet radio

• Shanahan, Dubas safe.
• Keefe possibly fired. Regular season is on GM. Playoffs is on coach.
• On Marner - as big an asset as Eichel. Leafs need to recoup assets after going all in.
• Coming off season is about young, buy low candidate instead of geezers. Except for Spezza who is most likely coming back.

Is that merely his opinion or insider info?

 

[WatchOut]

What I would like to see happen is, we sign haula (1 year 1.75m) to play on the third line with kerfoot and maybe gally. Trade holl and sign jamie oleksiak, he can play with reilly and brodie with muzzin. Replace simmonds with luke glendening. Have roberston play in the top 6 or top 9 and sign coleman.

Coleman (3m) - Matthews (11.64) - Marner (10.9)
Roberston (.9) - Tavares (11) - Willy (6.96)
Hyman (3.75) - Kerfoot (3.5) - Haula (1.75)
Mikheyev (1.64) - Glendening (1.5) - Speeza (.750k)

Reilly (5) - Oleksiak (2.5 2 years)
Muzzin (5.625) - Brodie (5m)
Sandin (.9) - Bogosian (1m)

Cambell (1.6m)
Backup (1.5m)

Adds toughness, speed and defense. Reilly can be traded for a different d-man not sure who at 5m but we might have to if hes asking for 7m and don't see a cap rise. Also roberston can be switched with hyman as well.