Trades & Free Agency Thread - Still Too Soon Off-Season Edition

[Nylander88]

If the rumours about Warren Foegle are true, I'd love to ship them a guy like Mikheyev for him straight up. I think he fits more of what we're trying to get, and Mikheyev would fit in nicely with their style of play. Both players in their mid 20s. One who wants a change of scenery, and one who could use one imo. I think that's a relatively fair trade for both sides

 

[Superstar]

Darren Dreger at it again...trolling and inflating player values when it comes to Leafs and ex-Leafs.

 

[OVO16]

If the rumours about Warren Foegle are true, I'd love to ship them a guy like Mikheyev for him straight up. I think he fits more of what we're trying to get, and Mikheyev would fit in nicely with their style of play. Both players in their mid 20s. One who wants a change of scenery, and one who could use one imo. I think that's a relatively fair trade for both sides

That's actually not bad.

 

[Stigma]

Darren Dreger at it again...trolling and inflating player values when it comes to Leafs and ex-Leafs.

God, I can't stand this man. He once mentioned that he was a serious bar brawler in the old days. Makes me dislike him even more. People who get off on weekend brawls have some sociopathic tendencies. Doesn't surprise me that he is getting off on making people unhappy.

 

[WTFMAN99]

God, I can't stand this man. He once mentioned that he was a serious bar brawler in the old days. Makes me dislike him even more. People who get off on weekend brawls have some sociopathic tendencies. Doesn't surprise me that he is getting off on making people unhappy.

Since his cousin was fired as GM, he's been really inflating any contract as it pertains to the Leafs. Seems bitter because he's been a pretty shitty insider since he stopped getting that info.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Darren Dreger at it again...trolling and inflating player values when it comes to Leafs and ex-Leafs.

I mean it makes it pretty easy for us to say no at that point.

I'd much rather pay less for a better goalie in Ullmark or Dreidger.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Dredger is an absolute clownshow. Go pump the tires of another team's underwhelming UFA's. Darren is going to offersheet Freddie himself, regardless of him being UFA or RFA if it'll raise his AAV

 

[Brobust]

If the rumours about Warren Foegle are true, I'd love to ship them a guy like Mikheyev for him straight up. I think he fits more of what we're trying to get, and Mikheyev would fit in nicely with their style of play. Both players in their mid 20s. One who wants a change of scenery, and one who could use one imo. I think that's a relatively fair trade for both sides

It depends on what Foegle earns next season. If he wants more than $1.5M, then there's no reason to make that deal.

 

[Duffman955]

If the rumours about Warren Foegle are true, I'd love to ship them a guy like Mikheyev for him straight up. I think he fits more of what we're trying to get, and Mikheyev would fit in nicely with their style of play. Both players in their mid 20s. One who wants a change of scenery, and one who could use one imo. I think that's a relatively fair trade for both sides

What rumors?

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

If the rumours about Warren Foegle are true, I'd love to ship them a guy like Mikheyev for him straight up. I think he fits more of what we're trying to get, and Mikheyev would fit in nicely with their style of play. Both players in their mid 20s. One who wants a change of scenery, and one who could use one imo. I think that's a relatively fair trade for both sides

Foegele would be great and a really cheap Hyman replacement but if he actually wants out of Carolina I would hope you can get him for less.

I'm also pretty worried Mikheyev just had his Grabner shooting% season and is likely going to have a hige equalizer in a contract year. I think we're better off keeping him and seeing if it happens.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

It depends on what Foegle earns next season. If he wants more than $1.5M, then there's no reason to make that deal.

If you could get him for 3 years between $1.5M and $1.8M I think that would be fantasic value.

Robertson/Foegele/Anderson cover 3 of your 4 LW spots for under $3.5M for at least the next two seasons.

 

[Looney Toonies]

I'm curious what Minnesota would want for Jordan Greenway. 1 year left at 2.1M

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'm curious what Minnesota would want for Jordan Greenway. 1 year left at 2.1M

Might be more than we want to pay...could maybe play that Byfuglien role for us but also needs a kick in the ass once in a while.

 

[Amadeus]

Darren Dreger at it again...trolling and inflating player values when it comes to Leafs and ex-Leafs.

I don't get the Dreger hate. He's usually spot on in breaking trades. I listened to the interview and there was absolutely no intent to do any trolling or inflating the player value. He basically stated the obvious which these sports analysts always do when they have nothing new to report. He essentially said that even if Freddie discounts from the mid 5s to 5 million, Leafs still would have difficulty fitting him in, which is true.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I don't get the Dreger hate. He's usually spot on in breaking trades. I listened to the interview and there was absolutely no intent to do any trolling or inflating the player value. He basically stated the obvious which these sports analysts always do when they have nothing new to report. He essentially said that even if Freddie discounts from the mid 5s to 5 million, Leafs still would have difficulty fitting him in, which is true.

Lose the word discount. Andersen has been garbage for 2 seasons running now.

 

[Amadeus]

Lose the word discount. Andersen has been garbage for 2 seasons running now.

He has not been the OG Fredie, I agree! I still see him as a solid starter though. Would I give him 5? No. I take the cap space and improve elsewhere.

 

[WTFMAN99]

He has not been the OG Fredie, I agree! I still see him as a solid starter though. Would I give him 5? No. I take the cap space and improve elsewhere.

He's probably among the worst starters you could have, we got wins in spite of him last season, Garret Sparks territory almost at times.

 

[Amadeus]

The guy was hurt and not the same. I think he bounces back.

 

[Antropovsky]

The guy was hurt and not the same. I think he bounces back.

He came into the season very overweight didn't he? Like 20 lbs over his typical playing weight?

 

[Cor]

So I put this roster together quickly.

Still a hair over 5M in cap space to use.

Kerfoot in expansion, Holl traded for futures, Engvall traded for futures.

Based on a discussion in another thread of how we need to continue to give young players chances in the lineup. I really like that third line, and think it can do a bit of everything. The fourth line is pretty standard. Liljegren replacing Holl beside Muzzin, which I think is a great fit.

So, where do you use the extra 5M? Well, two spots.

Does management think Robertson is ready? I think he can be with a good training off-season. If not, you can dedicate cap space to an FA like a Tatar, or a Granlund to fill that spot.

The more likely area I would suggest is Mikheyev. I actually don't mind the idea of Mikheyev getting a shot with Tavares and Nylander, to see what he can do in a more offensive spot. However, I don't think we are at the point where we can really afford to do that unfortunately.

So, does a Mikheyev, Dermott + Amirov/22 1st get you a Konecny? Rakell? etc

That is the area and type of package I'd be looking to make.

You utilize both internal promotion, AND free agency. I think that third line is a whole lot better than what we had, I think Robertson adds a spark to the top 6, and a guy like Konecny would as well.

 

[WTFMAN99]

So I put this roster together quickly.

Still a hair over 5M in cap space to use.

Kerfoot in expansion, Holl traded for futures, Engvall traded for futures.

Based on a discussion in another thread of how we need to continue to give young players chances in the lineup. I really like that third line, and think it can do a bit of everything. The fourth line is pretty standard. Liljegren replacing Holl beside Muzzin, which I think is a great fit.

So, where do you use the extra 5M? Well, two spots.

Does management think Robertson is ready? I think he can be with a good training off-season. If not, you can dedicate cap space to an FA like a Tatar, or a Granlund to fill that spot.

The more likely area I would suggest is Mikheyev. I actually don't mind the idea of Mikheyev getting a shot with Tavares and Nylander, to see what he can do in a more offensive spot. However, I don't think we are at the point where we can really afford to do that unfortunately.

So, does a Mikheyev, Dermott + Amirov/22 1st get you a Konecny? Rakell? etc

That is the area and type of package I'd be looking to make.

You utilize both internal promotion, AND free agency. I think that third line is a whole lot better than what we had, I think Robertson adds a spark to the top 6, and a guy like Konecny would as well.

Bogo likely coming in at around 1.2M, definitely not a pay cut.

If Dermott isn't playing regularly, he's traded.

You need 2 top 6 wingers, or at least 1 because cap.

Maybe re-sign Galchenyuk for 1x1 and Saad for 4.5M x4 years (slight bump from Toffoli's recent deal), they said they want killer instinct.

Maybe go for Mrazek in net at 2M for 1 year? Raanta is super injury prone.

 

[Cor]

Bogo likely coming in at around 1.2M, definitely not a pay cut.

If Dermott isn't playing regularly, he's traded.

You need 2 top 6 wingers, or at least 1 because cap.

Maybe re-sign Galchenyuk for 1x1 and Saad for 4.5M x4 years (slight bump from Toffoli's recent deal), they said they want killer instinct.

Maybe go for Mrazek in net at 2M for 1 year? Raanta is super injury prone.

I gave Bogosian the same deal as Simmonds. 2 years of term for a lower AAV.

In the post I mentioned Dermott being involved in a package.

In the post I mention acquiring a top 6 forward for a package

Saad won't come that cheap. You can bring Galchenyuk back for that if one doesn't think Robertson is ready, as indicated in the post

Can be any goalie, Raanta is essentially a placeholder.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I gave Bogosian the same deal as Simmonds. 2 years of term for a lower AAV.

In the post I mentioned Dermott being involved in a package.

In the post I mention acquiring a top 6 forward for a package

Saad won't come that cheap. You can bring Galchenyuk back for that if one doesn't think Robertson is ready, as indicated in the post

Can be any goalie, Raanta is essentially a placeholder.

You can reasonably go up to 5M on Saad but I don't see how he warrants more than Toffoli.

I don't think Robertson will be ready this year but good problem to have if he is.

Not sure if Bogo goes for what Wayne did...just had a better year entirely...but if he would, no brainer yes.

 

[showtime8]

So I put this roster together quickly.

Still a hair over 5M in cap space to use.

Kerfoot in expansion, Holl traded for futures, Engvall traded for futures.

Based on a discussion in another thread of how we need to continue to give young players chances in the lineup. I really like that third line, and think it can do a bit of everything. The fourth line is pretty standard. Liljegren replacing Holl beside Muzzin, which I think is a great fit.

So, where do you use the extra 5M? Well, two spots.

Does management think Robertson is ready? I think he can be with a good training off-season. If not, you can dedicate cap space to an FA like a Tatar, or a Granlund to fill that spot.

The more likely area I would suggest is Mikheyev. I actually don't mind the idea of Mikheyev getting a shot with Tavares and Nylander, to see what he can do in a more offensive spot. However, I don't think we are at the point where we can really afford to do that unfortunately.

So, does a Mikheyev, Dermott + Amirov/22 1st get you a Konecny? Rakell? etc

That is the area and type of package I'd be looking to make.

You utilize both internal promotion, AND free agency. I think that third line is a whole lot better than what we had, I think Robertson adds a spark to the top 6, and a guy like Konecny would as well.

Not bad suggestions throughout your post, but the more I look at that defense, the more I contrast it to the remaining teams in the playoffs.

The top 4 that the Leafs currently have is nowhere close to what the Bolts have or even the Habs. And in the playoffs last year, I think we saw how important Muzzin was to the team when he got injured. So while I think Liljegren & Sandin might get some action with the Leafs next year, I don't think it can happen at the same time. I know that the Habs are built different in terms of how they defend, but the Leafs need to focus on that top 4.

In terms of trade, I'd be looking at guys like Brayden McNabb, Connor Murphy, Justin Schultz, Mackenzie Weegar, Andrej Sekera, Marco Scandella, Josh Manson, Colin Miller. Not directly for the top 4, but for depth on defense.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Not bad suggestions throughout your post, but the more I look at that defense, the more I contrast it to the remaining teams in the playoffs.

The top 4 that the Leafs currently have is nowhere close to what the Bolts have or even the Habs. And in the playoffs last year, I think we saw how important Muzzin was to the team when he got injured. So while I think Liljegren & Sandin might get some action with the Leafs next year, I don't think it can happen at the same time. I know that the Habs are built different in terms of how they defend, but the Leafs need to focus on that top 4.

In terms of trade, I'd be looking at guys like Brayden McNabb, Connor Murphy, Justin Schultz, Mackenzie Weegar, Andrej Sekera, Marco Scandella, Josh Manson, Colin Miller. Not directly for the top 4, but for depth on defense.

Ian Cole would be a shrewd add in UFA.