Trades & Free Agency Thread - Still Too Soon Off-Season Edition

[Dreakmur]

- Trade Kerfoot and Dermott prior to expansion. This would likely ensure that Engvall would be the person traded

If you trade guys away, you have to expose somebody else.

As of right now, we expose Kerfoot, Engvall, Holl, and Hutchinson to meet the requirements. Trade one away and they need to be replaced. We could use Spezza, but that’s a gamble….I know I would take him if I’m Seattle.

Guys like Anderson and Brooks get exposed, but don’t count for the minimum.

Unless we sign Dermott, he is exposed and doesn’t count for the exposure requirements.

 

[Brobust]

If you trade guys away, you have to expose somebody else.

As of right now, we expose Kerfoot, Engvall, Holl, and Hutchinson to meet the requirements. Trade one away and they need to be replaced. We could use Spezza, but that’s a gamble….I know I would take him if I’m Seattle.

Guys like Anderson and Brooks get exposed, but don’t count for the minimum.

Unless we sign Dermott, he is exposed and doesn’t count for the exposure requirements.

Protecting Spezza and Holl over Kerfoot seems kind of dumb, don't you think?

 

[Gallagbi]

If you trade guys away, you have to expose somebody else.

As of right now, we expose Kerfoot, Engvall, Holl, and Hutchinson to meet the requirements. Trade one away and they need to be replaced. We could use Spezza, but that’s a gamble….I know I would take him if I’m Seattle.

Guys like Anderson and Brooks get exposed, but don’t count for the minimum.

Unless we sign Dermott, he is exposed and doesn’t count for the exposure requirements.

I figure Spezza has already put the same note/threat about retirement if picked that he did on waivers.

If Seattle takes him then he retires and they lose out on a potential asset instead.

 

[Dreakmur]

Protecting Spezza and Holl over Kerfoot seems kind of dumb, don't you think?

We can’t protect Holl unless we first sign another defenseman to expose.

 

[Dreakmur]

I figure Spezza has already put the same note/threat about retirement if picked that he did on waivers.

If Seattle takes him then he retires and they lose out on a potential asset instead.

Yes, I assume he did, but I’d pick him anyway.

 

[Gallagbi]

Yes, I assume he did, but I’d pick him anyway.

Why waste the opportunity to get an actual asset instead? It would have made more sense as a waiver pickup than expansion draft IMO

 

[Dreakmur]

Why waste the opportunity to get an actual asset instead? It would have made more sense as a waiver pickup than expansion draft IMO

I would assume Toronto wants me to pick Kerfoot and open up cap space. My bet would be they trade a pick with Kerfoot to get Spezza back. Spezza at league minimum is very valuable to a cap team.

I doubt Francis would be that cut-throat, but I would be lol

 

[Duke16]

I like Dermott, but I think his time is coming to a close here and the Leafs would be wise to test the waters Pre-expansion given that he'll more than likely be exposed under either format AND it shouldn't be difficult to meet exposure requirements if he is moved.

Holl is exposed in a 7-3-1 and Bogosian/Hutton extended in place of Dermott in a 4-4-1 where Holl is protected.

 

[Dreakmur]

I like Dermott, but I think his time is coming to a close here and the Leafs would be wise to test the waters Pre-expansion given that he'll more than likely be exposed under either format AND it shouldn't be difficult to meet exposure requirements if he is moved.

Holl is exposed in a 7-3-1 and Bogosian/Hutton extended in place of Dermott in a 4-4-1 where Holl is protected.

Holl can’t be protected unless we sign another defenseman who meets exposure requirements, regardless of what format we choose.

Also, I believe Brooks and Anderson are eligible to be selected, but don’t meet the exposure requirements.

 

[Brobust]

We can’t protect Holl unless we first sign another defenseman to expose.

Hmm, sounds like an insurmountable obstacle.

 

[Dreakmur]

Hmm, sounds like an insurmountable obstacle.

If you were a player, would you sign in a place knowing you could get claimed by another team?

I'd wait till after expansion and sign when I know I'll stay there.

 

[Brobust]

If you were a player, would you sign in a place knowing you could get claimed by another team?

I'd wait till after expansion and sign when I know I'll stay there.

If I were a borderline NHLer, like Ben Hutton, fighting for a spot and I were offered a one-way contract, would I refuse it?

I guess it depends on my medical history. How many concussions have I suffered to this point?

 

[WestCoastLeafs]

Leafs will have 5 dmen who meet exposure requirements once qualifying offers have gone out, so yes, they can go 4-4 if they choose

 

[Dreakmur]

If I were a borderline NHLer, like Ben Hutton, fighting for a spot and I were offered a one-way contract, would I refuse it?

Ben Hutton easily gets a contract.

If you were fighting for a spot, wouldn't you want to sign with a team that actually wants you for more than expansion draft numbers?

 

[Dreakmur]

Leafs will have 5 dmen who meet exposure requirements once qualifying offers have gone out, so yes, they can go 4-4 if they choose

I'm not sure QOs count. It specifically says they have to be under contract for 2022.

I'd protect Joey Anderson and Adam Brooks before both Dermott and Holl anyway.

 

[I am Canadian]

While I'm expecting the team to move on at this point, if Hymans agent approached the Leafs with a 4ish mil contract over 7/8 years would you do it?

Yup, let years 3/4-8 be someone else's problem

 

[WestCoastLeafs]

I'm not sure QOs count. It specifically says they have to be under contract for 2022.

I'd protect Joey Anderson and Adam Brooks before both Dermott and Holl anyway.

I am.

Edit: cap friendly seems to think RFAs only work for exposure requirements for goalies

 

[Menzinger]

If teams were able to essentially block Seattle from taking RFAs because they had only been qualified and not fully signed it would seem to be a pretty big loophole to get around the other expansion rules. It would essentially mean that they wouldn't need to use an protection slot on any rfa in that situation.

Which means I can't see that being the case.

 

[Dreakmur]

If teams were able to essentially block Seattle from taking RFAs because they had only been qualified and not fully signed it would seem to be a pretty big loophole to get around the other expansion rules. It would essentially mean that they wouldn't need to use an protection slot on any rfa in that situation.

Which means I can't see that being the case.

They are not blocked from being selected. Unsigned players just don’t count for the 2-1-1 that must be exposed.

 

[Jozay]

Yup, let years 3/4-8 be someone else's problem

Whos gonna trade for that contract?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Whos gonna trade for that contract?

The same team that Lou thought he would trade Marleau to maybe?

 

[Dreakmur]

The same team that Lou thought he would trade Marleau to maybe?

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I thought the Leafs made it pretty clear that they wanted to unload Marleau before he said he'd only go to San Jose.

 

[Cor]

If you trade guys away, you have to expose somebody else.

As of right now, we expose Kerfoot, Engvall, Holl, and Hutchinson to meet the requirements. Trade one away and they need to be replaced. We could use Spezza, but that’s a gamble….I know I would take him if I’m Seattle.

Guys like Anderson and Brooks get exposed, but don’t count for the minimum.

Unless we sign Dermott, he is exposed and doesn’t count for the exposure requirements.

Sorry, I meant Engvall would be the person selected, not traded

He, Hutchinson and then re-sign Hutton (we need to re-sign he or Bogosian pre-expansion anyway) would ensure we meet requirements.

 

[Brobust]

Yes, I assume he did, but I’d pick him anyway.

The objective for Ron Francis is to build a team, not to spite the leafs.

 

[Brobust]

Ben Hutton easily gets a contract.

If you were fighting for a spot, wouldn't you want to sign with a team that actually wants you for more than expansion draft numbers?

It's not like those contracts haven't been signed in the past. Guys like Hutch specifically got a contract because of expansion.

Anyway, we'll talk about this when the draft actually happens.

I'm assuming that Ron Francis isn't a moron and the leafs can sign more defencemen if they want. You're assuming the opposite.