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have to believe mo has to get shopped now looking at what these guys are getting. he must be asking for 9
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What's all this he was brought in to protect Holl rubbish?
Holl was never getting exposed, McCann protected Dermott and Kerfoot because we were always going 4-4-1
The better question is why the hell anybody would protect either of those two when ones a bottom pair and the other is a questionable 3C with potential negative value
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Klefbom's cap hit is 4.17 million which we could use with him on LTIR. That would be a nice return for losing Hyman.
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Losing Kerfoot would have left a #3C hole on the roster, and the free agency crop isn't too appealing.. There was some risk here and the grass may not have been greener on the other side
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They made a decision to protect 4D because Seattle wasn't playing ball on side deals. So yes, this deal was made so they could protect Holl and not lose anything of significance up front no matter who was selected.
Last period is your feelings overflowing , combined with ridiculous talent evaluation, and has nothing to do with what was talked about. The REALITY is he was forward who had 6 point in 7 playoff games and was our second best forward in the playoffs.
They only had 4 forwards worth protecting so no they were always going to protect Holl and at no stage indicated he would be exposed
A yes, instead of using 2 years of results to evaluate a player we still don't know is an actual center and we haven't been able to build a functional 3rd line around were going to use the magnificent sample size of 1 whole playoff round instead
Your some talent evaluator alright, listen to Seravalli on the radio yesterday and take note of the point he said we'd probably have to attach a 3rd to Kerfoot to trade him
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BertCorbeau
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He's not a pure C though. I like him more as a winger. He's not an ace defensively nkrndkes he provide a lot of offense.
BertCorbeau
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Oh I agree they need to bring someone else in IMO but Kerfoot gives some versatile depth
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Most likely the smart play for the Leafs is to wait out the FA period for bargains that are likely to emerge as training camp approaches. The Oleksiak deal shows that the top guys will still be overpaid as always but with the flat cap there will be good deals to be had if we stay patient.
Problem is, nobody in Leafs Nation is feeling patient right now! Everybody wants changes of consequence yesterday!
Problem is, nobody in Leafs Nation is feeling patient right now! Everybody wants changes of consequence yesterday!
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Kerfoot has certainly added more value this past season since becoming a regular on the PK. A fairly good PKer as well. Excited to see what happens from here. Free agent prices seem to have started high. If Galchenyuk is interested in coming back at 1.5m or less, we should get the deal done imo.
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Flames are much weaker on d without Giordano...Jets still looking for a d man...Oilers lost Larsson, and will need a replacement...if the Leafs gave up Holl, they'll be hard pressed to find another at the $2 million cap hit, and will have to out-bid other teams for a top 4 d man...would get ugly quick.
I just sit here and think Larsson who was one of the few realistic UFA replacements signed for twice the remaining term and twice the cap.
Feels like we would have had to tryout an off-side Dermott in a shutdown pairing. Wouldn't have been my favourite option and I can't see that being promising come playoff time.
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This is exactly it. It doesn't mean that the Leafs have to stick with the defense as is, but it does mean they don't have to overpay in UFA to get a top 4 because they gave away theirs.
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Holl's contract is quite a good deal...Larsson is not twice the d man Holl is. It'll be too risky if we lose Holl without a replacement...d man depth could never be overstated, as players get injured too.
I'm not convinced Larsson is anything more than a slight upgrade (at best)
Mirtle: Making sense of the Jared McCann controversy and where the Maple Leafs go next - The Athletic
The big needs are the big red question marks: a top-six left winger, two solid depth forwards (ideally including a centre) and a backup goaltender.
If Kerfoot is staying — which is a considerable “if,” given there have been trade rumours — I prefer him on the wing, where he played well alongside John Tavares and William Nylander as a puck distributor.
I also think in an ideal world all three of Wayne Simmonds, Pierre Engvall and Jason Spezza are fourth-liners (or one is an extra forward) when the roster is fully healthy.
The Leafs are likely going to need an additional defenceman, even if it’s just a seventh D for the league minimum who serves as a healthy scratch regularly. (They would need to leave some extra cap space in order to carry more than the 20 player minimum so factor that in, too.)
Addressing all of those needs for around $9.3 million is going to be very tricky.
Looking at the cluttered goalie market, I think they can probably find someone who makes sense for $2.5 million or less. After that, it makes sense to spend the bulk of the remaining dollars trying to get another impact forward to replace what Zach Hyman brought the past few seasons.
That’s where McCann could have filled some of the void. And he would have been cheaper than some other options we’re fans of like Jaden Schwartz, who’s going to want at least $4.5 million with term on his new deal.
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But they’re not going to be able to fill absolutely every need using UFAs. Something has to give.
That’s why moving Kerfoot’s salary makes some sense. The Leafs may be able to find players who bring what he does for less. So that’s one area they could free up a little more room and more significantly change the look of the team’s top-nine group.
It’s tough to find too many other areas to trim, however.
I think there’s a course of action here for Dubas and the front office to pursue that will result in a better team than last season. But it’s going to mean beating out the competition for several quality free agents, and the Leafs are up against quite a few teams that have more cap space overall.
It’s going to be fascinating how that unfolds, given what they lost to Seattle today.
The big needs are the big red question marks: a top-six left winger, two solid depth forwards (ideally including a centre) and a backup goaltender.
If Kerfoot is staying — which is a considerable “if,” given there have been trade rumours — I prefer him on the wing, where he played well alongside John Tavares and William Nylander as a puck distributor.
I also think in an ideal world all three of Wayne Simmonds, Pierre Engvall and Jason Spezza are fourth-liners (or one is an extra forward) when the roster is fully healthy.
The Leafs are likely going to need an additional defenceman, even if it’s just a seventh D for the league minimum who serves as a healthy scratch regularly. (They would need to leave some extra cap space in order to carry more than the 20 player minimum so factor that in, too.)
Addressing all of those needs for around $9.3 million is going to be very tricky.
Looking at the cluttered goalie market, I think they can probably find someone who makes sense for $2.5 million or less. After that, it makes sense to spend the bulk of the remaining dollars trying to get another impact forward to replace what Zach Hyman brought the past few seasons.
That’s where McCann could have filled some of the void. And he would have been cheaper than some other options we’re fans of like Jaden Schwartz, who’s going to want at least $4.5 million with term on his new deal.
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But they’re not going to be able to fill absolutely every need using UFAs. Something has to give.
That’s why moving Kerfoot’s salary makes some sense. The Leafs may be able to find players who bring what he does for less. So that’s one area they could free up a little more room and more significantly change the look of the team’s top-nine group.
It’s tough to find too many other areas to trim, however.
I think there’s a course of action here for Dubas and the front office to pursue that will result in a better team than last season. But it’s going to mean beating out the competition for several quality free agents, and the Leafs are up against quite a few teams that have more cap space overall.
It’s going to be fascinating how that unfolds, given what they lost to Seattle today.
Leafs should target Armia. Big forward who is defensively responsible and can put the puck in the net. I'd do a 4mill x 3 years.
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We are not blowing half of our available cap space on a guy of Armia's caliber.
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