Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[OVO16]

Dillon, Hakanpaa, Myers and Edmundson are comparable defenseman who aren't as shiny right now that could fill the role on a better contract.

I prefer Dillon over all. Even though all the defenseman you named are big and physical, Dillon is the toughest out of all of em. Dude can chuck em

 

[CapspaceKiller]

Yeah, Zadorov and Tanav are both about to get overpaid.

Zadorov probably massively. Even if he's pretty good.

Just try to re-sign Lybushkin at this point if you want a physical defenceman that blocks shots.

 

[Kurtz]

Well, that's kinda the deal, isn't it? You either overpay a UFA or you give up picks in a trade. Or you wait until day 2 of free agency and hope to pick up someone who fell through the cracks, like we did with Bertuzzi last year...but that's a risky strategy for a team needing 2-3 dmen.

 

[Duffman955]

I wonder what it would be like if we didn't gp the El cheapo route on goaltending and defense.

You can't ice the cheapest possible defense and goaltending, and expect great results.

 

[Rude Dog]

Yeah, Zadorov and Tanav are both about to get overpaid.

Zadorov probably massively. Even if he's pretty good.

Just try to re-sign Lybushkin at this point if you want a physical defenceman that blocks shots.

I keep hearing Zadorov is going to get way overpaid. First to admit, I haven't watched a lot of him, but when I have, the guy has always stood out in a good way. Exactly the type of player this team needs. I can see him as a 2nd pairing guy. Huge, physical, good skater. I would give him 5 million. What am I missing?

 

[Torontonian]

Well, that's kinda the deal, isn't it? You either overpay a UFA or you give up picks in a trade. Or you wait until day 2 of free agency and hope to pick up someone who fell through the cracks, like we did with Bertuzzi last year...but that's a risky strategy for a team needing 2-3 dmen.

Overpaying is somewhat fine for good players. It's when you start overpaying for average players when you get into trouble. Zardorov is going to fall into that category. Decent player, would be fine at a 3.75-4m cap max, but he's gonig to make 5.25-5.5m.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Yeah, Zadorov and Tanav are both about to get overpaid.

Zadorov probably massively. Even if he's pretty good.

Just try to re-sign Lybushkin at this point if you want a physical defenceman that blocks shots.

Him paired with Benoit would make a great 3rd pairing.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Dang. I wanted DeMelo.

 

[GQS]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805617390668898332

Top 4 right handed d-man gets 4.9m. Not bad.

Sucks that back in 2020 all it took to get him from the Sens was a 2020 3rd round pick. Both Lybushkin and Edmundson cost more to get than that.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Him paired with Benoit would make a great 3rd pairing.

I like this structure:

Rielly-???
???-McCabe
Benoit-Lyubushkin

Boosh can move up and McCabe can play either side. Gives some flexibility.

Not setting our sites super high but basically we're looking for a more effective Brodie replacement and a more effective Klingberg replacement.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I wouldn't mind Carrier, I think he's a genuinely good play but I'd want somebody significantly better than him to like Roy etc

Rielly-Tanev/Roy
Zadorov-Theodore
Benoit-McCabe

If Tanev/Roy fall through

Rielly-McCabe
Zadorov-Theodore
Benoit-Carrier/Walker

I'm making some Marner assumptions, Marino is a trade option too.

 

[Magic Man]

Similar to the Woll extension. Would Liljegren for 3.5M per for 3 years be a nice safe contract? It buys a UFA year. It would be tough to replace all 3 of our RHD in one off-season.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Similar to the Woll extension. Would Liljegren for 3.5M per for 3 years be a nice safe contract? It buys a UFA year. It would be tough to replace all 3 of our RHD in one off-season.

I think that's way too much for Lily.

He was bouncing between top 4 and waiver fodder last season.

I think a "show me" contract or a trade out of town are the two most likely options. Just my two cents though.

 

[Dreakmur]

I keep hearing Zadorov is going to get way overpaid. First to admit, I haven't watched a lot of him, but when I have, the guy has always stood out in a good way. Exactly the type of player this team needs. I can see him as a 2nd pairing guy. Huge, physical, good skater. I would give him 5 million. What am I missing?

He’s kind of like a better version of Jake McCabe. He usually looks good, but every once in a while looks absolutely brutal. On average, they’re both top-4 guys… but those bad moments are much too frequent to be trustworthy enough for a true top-4 role.

 

[WTFMAN99]

He’s kind of like a better version of Jake McCabe. He usually looks good, but every once in a while looks absolutely brutal. On average, they’re both top-4 guys… but those bad moments are much too frequent to be trustworthy enough for a true top-4 role.

I think Zadorov has gotten better with age, didn't help coming up on some really bad Buffalo/Chicago teams.

Had some better periods on Calgary and Colorado but wasn't asked to do much.

 

[Evilhomer]

Overpaying is somewhat fine for good players. It's when you start overpaying for average players when you get into trouble. Zardorov is going to fall into that category. Decent player, would be fine at a 3.75-4m cap max, but he's gonig to make 5.25-5.5m.

Bertuzzi is going to fall into this category, as well.

 

[CapspaceKiller]

I keep hearing Zadorov is going to get way overpaid. First to admit, I haven't watched a lot of him, but when I have, the guy has always stood out in a good way. Exactly the type of player this team needs. I can see him as a 2nd pairing guy. Huge, physical, good skater. I would give him 5 million. What am I missing?

He wants and will get 6x6.

He'd be awesome at 4x4

That's free agency in a nutshell.

 

[Kiwi]

Rielly-Tanev/Roy
Zadorov-Theodore
Benoit-McCabe

If Tanev/Roy fall through

Rielly-McCabe
Zadorov-Theodore
Benoit-Carrier/Walker

I'm making some Marner assumptions, Marino is a trade option too.

I'm sure Carrier is top 4 quality and there's no way in hell I'd give Zadorov 6M

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Zadorov is a good defenseman who would make our team better the second he puts pen to paper.

 

[ToneDog]

I'm sure Carrier is top 4 quality and there's no way in hell I'd give Zadorov 6M

Demelo just got close to 4x5m. Z might get 6 but it will/better not be from us.

 

[Budz]

He wants and will get 6x6.

He'd be awesome at 4x4

That's free agency in a nutshell.

I guess my original point in bringing up Zaddy is I would rather slightly over pay for his youth and upside over Tanev and the risks there.

 

[Jozay]

Detroit dumping salary, probably signing Roy

 

[supermann_98]

f*** us if we give Tanev a 4 year deal. The goal is to deep in a Cup run, we really going to believe this guy is going to get through 82 games and probably another 25 in the playoffs lol

Unless we sign him to a *wink wink, nudge nudge* deal that includes him being good with going to Robidas island with "debilitating back pain" should his play fall off a cliff in years 3 & 4

 

[BertCorbeau]

Detroit dumping salary, probably signing Roy

Is Walman that much of a salary dump though that you had to attach a second to get rid of him?

Yikes

 

[Menzinger]

Is Walman that much of a salary dump though that you had to attach a second to get rid of him?

Yikes

It's always about the market at a place in time, right? If no other team wants them and they are desperate to drop them, they got to pay. Which they seemingly did