Trades & Free Agency Thread: Off-season Edition

[Menzinger]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1824480993396527269

If true, lol.

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I'm not terribly surprised. I can see them going longer term like 5-6 years at a surprisingly low caphit (like under 4 mil) rather than a 2-3 year extension

 

[Folignos Helmet]

I know that for some weird reason people get real bent out of shape when the idea Alex Nylander could maybe be a good player gets brought up around here, but it’s worth mention that Nylander and Sillinger were very good together last year.

That said, didn’t they just sign Sillinger? I don’t think he’d be available.

He’s still an RFA
Can play him with both Nylanders

 

[Dreakmur]

Best way to improve the bottom 6 would be to have both, but cap wise that’d be tricky because Kampf is not paid appropriately to be a 4C

Would be nice to have both for PK and get Marner off it.

That’s where having a lot of developing prospects would have come in handy. Pray for Minten to take that 3c spot and run with it.

 

[ACC1224]

I’m curious: does anyone not expect Knies - Matthews - Domi to start together as a line? I feel like if they can click we are a far better, deeper team up front.

Not sure what the next two lines look like honestly but if we traded for a 3C like Eller (or ideally better), I’d be interested to see something like:

Robertson - Tavares - Marner
Cowan - Eller - Nylander

Puts McMann on the outs of the top 9, but I think he’d be a pretty great fit with Kampf and Jarnkrok.

The cap likely does not work though with both Eller and Robertson in.

Swap McMann with Robertson IMO.

 

[Knies iT]

Would love Sillinger as 3C, Jackets now have Fantili, Monahan and Jenner down the middle - not sure if Minten and Robertson would get it done
McMann - Sillinger - Willie would be a nice 3rd line.

He’s a Columbus native and they invested a high pick in him.

Columbus desperately needs more Sillinger’s, Kuraly’s, etc. who actually have an interest staying long term and aren’t flight risks.

I’ve thought about the fit before but don’t see them entertaining it.

 

[Rare Jewel]

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Before, I would've said no, but given the way he's handled the captaincy change, you've probably got to keep him now.

That situation could've been quite awkward, and he's handled just about as well as you could ask.

 

[SprDaVE]

I'm not terribly surprised. I can see them going longer term like 5-6 years at a surprisingly low caphit (like under 4 mil) rather than a 2-3 year extension

I'm going to guess 4 years at ~6M per, which is similar to what Pavelski got when he was 33/34 (he actually got 7M but as a UFA) . Brings Tavares to 38, at that point you can re-assess where he's at.

 

[Sypher04]

I'm going to guess 4 years at ~6M per, which is similar to what Pavelski got when he was 33/34 (he actually got 7M but as a UFA) . Brings Tavares to 38, at that point you can re-assess where he's at.

My hope is 4 years, $5M per.
Anything under that is a pretty significant concession by Tavares. Honestly even that probably is.

 

[Evilhomer]

My hope is 4 years, $5M per.
Anything under that is a pretty significant concession by Tavares. Honestly even that probably is.

I bet more along the lines of 6 years at $4 million per year.

 

[leaffann]

Crosby 8.7, Malkin 6.1 & Karlsson 11.5 to Toronto for Tavares 11, Marner 10.9 Liljegren 3, Kampf 2.4, Jarncrock 2.1, Niemela ELC, Minten ELC & a 1st Rd pick in 2026, 2027 & 2028.
not draft lottery protected picks. Pittsburgh does a sign & trade with both Tavares & Marner. Pittsburgh eats half of Karlsson contract. Leafs get Karlsson for 3 seasons @ 5.75. Pittsburgh can then choose to trade any assets acquired.
Leafs save approximately 8 million - cost of signing Robertson Leafs would still have cap space. Particularly useful if the goaltending isn't working out, or possibly a depth signing for league minimum like a JVR or Pacioretty. Robertson & McCabe could also be packaged in a trade.


Knies Matthews Domi
A. Nylander Crosby W. Nylander
Robertson Malkin Cowan
McMann Holmberg Reaves

Reilly Tanev
OEL Karlsson
Benoit McCabe
Timmins

Woll Stolarz

 

[Advanced stats]

What time did you start drinking?

 

[Killer Orcas]

Well if a proposal deserved Mega-blockbuster this certainly does. However this is fantasy land stuff.

 

[ULF_55]

I'm going to guess 4 years at ~6M per, which is similar to what Pavelski got when he was 33/34 (he actually got 7M but as a UFA) . Brings Tavares to 38, at that point you can re-assess where he's at.

With the first signing bonus being directly deposited to his CRA account.

 

[Cleetus]

yikes

 

[HockeyVirus]

You think Tavares is bad wait till you see Malkin

 

[SprDaVE]

My hope is 4 years, $5M per.
Anything under that is a pretty significant concession by Tavares. Honestly even that probably is.

I bet more along the lines of 6 years at $4 million per year.

4M or 5M seems way under market. Not impossible if you go to his 40s but probably not really realistic to me. They did it with Tanev so maybe they do it with Tavares too.

 

[Mckay]

Crosby 8.7, Malkin 6.1 & Karlsson 11.5 to Toronto for Tavares 11, Marner 10.9 Liljegren 3, Kampf 2.4, Jarncrock 2.1, Niemela ELC, Minten ELC & a 1st Rd pick in 2026, 2027 & 2028.
not draft lottery protected picks. Pittsburgh does a sign & trade with both Tavares & Marner. Pittsburgh eats half of Karlsson contract. Leafs get Karlsson for 3 seasons @ 5.75. Pittsburgh can then choose to trade any assets acquired.
Leafs save approximately 8 million - cost of signing Robertson Leafs would still have cap space. Particularly useful if the goaltending isn't working out, or possibly a depth signing for league minimum like a JVR or Pacioretty. Robertson & McCabe could also be packaged in a trade.


Knies Matthews Domi
A. Nylander Crosby W. Nylander
Robertson Malkin Cowan
McMann Holmberg Reaves

Reilly Tanev
OEL Karlsson
Benoit McCabe
Timmins

Woll Stolarz

 

[Evilhomer]

4M or 5M seems way under market. Not impossible if you go to his 40s but probably not really realistic to me. They did it with Tanev so maybe they do it with Tavares too.

I'm not sure "market" is relevant in this case. He won't play anywhere but here.

 

[SprDaVE]

I'm not sure "market" is relevant in this case. He won't play anywhere but here.

Are you new for this kind of thing? It's always relevant. Can't assume he'll take way under what the market is or what he feels he's worth just because we think he'll stay no matter what. It will matter.

 

[LeafEgo]

Are you new for this kind of thing? It's always relevant. Can't assume he'll take way under what the market is or what he feels he's worth just because we think he'll stay no matter what. It will matter.

Toronto alone seems to be his market though. They are setting his price without competition.

 

[SprDaVE]

Toronto alone seems to be his market though. They are setting his price without competition.

Maybe? I'm not saying overpaying, but expecting him to take 2Mish under what is likely the fair point seems optimistic.

Stamkos bolted when he wasn't given close to what he wanted.

 

[Evilhomer]

Toronto alone seems to be his market though. They are setting his price without competition.

Agreed. He will resign for a number that works for the team. I think it will be well under market.

 

[Evilhomer]

Maybe? I'm not saying overpaying, but expecting him to take 2Mish under what is likely the fair point seems optimistic.

Stamkos bolted when he wasn't given close to what he wanted.

I think Stamkos and Tavares are very different from one another.

 

[fahad203]

Do you think the Leafs would match $2.2 million?

Absolutely they would. Unless they offer like 7 years then it's different

 

[LeafEgo]

Maybe? I'm not saying overpaying, but expecting him to take 2Mish under what is likely the fair point seems optimistic.

Stamkos bolted when he wasn't given close to what he wanted.

There is probably a team out there that would pay him 7M at some term, but what is his value (fair point) to the Leafs specifically?

It isn't impacted by the 7M, it just is what it is. We don't need him as much as some other teams do.

Unlike Stammer, the working assumption is that JT is unavailable to other teams. If that's the case, then they are really only tied by regulatory bodies, relationships, brand, etc..

It's a strange one, but I'm guessing less than 5M.