I would love to know how Marner is an elite PKer when our PK has been terrible every playoffs.
Our PK hasn't been terrible every playoffs, and Marner is far from the issue when it has struggled.
Nobody cares that he's number 2 in production on our team. He's not #1 and he's not a C.
You should care that he's a top producer and player on the team. More than just the highest producing center on your team matters.
Or in our case, games 4-7.
Not that it matters which are higher/lower scoring, but that's not even true. Game 1 is our 2nd lowest scoring game after game 7. Your claims about production effects are wrong.
No, we're blaming a high paid player who can't push us over the hump
You're blaming an individual for something that isn't an individual issue, and even more odd, you're focusing on the guy primarily in charge of the thing we tend to do quite well, and not the guys who primarily do the thing we're struggling with.
We blame depth, goaltending ad defence every year we fail and moving Marner helps us improve all of that.
People here blame whatever fits their narrative, and then make suggestions that don't fix anything, and often hurt the team. Moving Marner doesn't improve anything. It gives
opportunity to address something, which Treliving has shown he will waste. And even if it was addressed, it still wouldn't improve the team overall. Opening holes to close other holes doesn't advance you ahead.
Vegas scored around 25 goals on Bobrovsky last year in the finals. Colorado did the same the year before against Vasilevsky. Tampa Bay scored around 20 against Price in their matchup. These excuses only happen to us and it's what separates us from actual winners.
You mean elite goalie runs don't last forever? Wow, what a surprise! Not to mention that all of your numbers are wrong.
Toronto scored 16 goals against Price. That's the same as Tampa (16), and more than Vegas (13) and Winnipeg (6).
Toronto scored 22 goals against Vasilevsky. That's more than Colorado (20), New York (14), and Florida (3).
Toronto scored 10 goals against Bobrovsky, and while Vegas got to see the implosion side of Bobrvosky after he didn't play for like 10 days, Carolina (6) still scored less than us.
I'm not sure why you're attempting to misrepresent us as the only one that has experienced this.
Even if your argument was accurate, the only thing it would say is that we're slightly worse than cup-winners.
We're better by being a deeper team and not so reliant on 1 line.
We're not reliant on 1 line, but removing Marner would help turn us into that. Cup winners aren't made by overpaying depth.
Only 1 team wins it all, but we can't even win a series. Why is this always ignored when trying to defend this core.
Ignored? It's like this board's catchphrase. People love to pretend it means way more than it does, and then what they actually ignore is
all other information and context. We're not accumulating series here. This isn't Pokemon, trying to catch them all. Unless you win 4 series in one season, all it means is that you lost in a slightly different way.
We beat them by getting rid of that good depth and defence you said we had.
No we didn't. What are you even talking about?
Who were these players who got more?
Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, McDavid, Matthews, Kovalchuk, Vanek, Nash, and Heatley. Behind everybody who earned more than him. Behind a few who didn't earn more than him. Ahead of those he earned more than. In other words, a reasonable contract.