GDT: Trades & Free Agency Thread - Off-Season Early Edition

[ChuckWoods]

With Oilers smoke in mind, who here likes Khaira?

Will see a raise regardless of which way his RFA offseason goes, but certainly has the potential to be structured in a tight cap landscape.

 

[Jozay]

Mccann would be a solid ass addition.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

How's does everyone feel about Jake DeBrusk? Seems to have fallen out of favor in Boston a bit and could probably be had a relatively cheap price.

He's young, has shown good potential, and plays with an edge. Seems like he would be a great fit on one of the top 2 lines IMO

 

[OVO16]

With Oilers smoke in mind, who here likes Khaira?

Will see a raise regardless of which way his RFA offseason goes, but certainly has the potential to be structured in a tight cap landscape.

Wouldn't mind him as a 4th line option but depends on the price.

I still like guys like Sean Kuraly, Jordan Martinook or Marcus Sorenson as 4th line adds from UFA list. Should come cheap

 

[4thline]

With Oilers smoke in mind, who here likes Khaira?

Will see a raise regardless of which way his RFA offseason goes, but certainly has the potential to be structured in a tight cap landscape.

I like him on the 4th line, on the 3rd... would need good linemates.

 

[613Leafer]

I wonder how management *truly* feels about Engvall/Mikheyev and their contracts, especially relative to Kerfoot. Because looking at options in UFA, if you see the pair as 4th line players/ 3rd fiddle on the 3rd line that you can replace at 900k-1m because of the flat cap the angle might be to use Soup to get Seattle to take Engvall. Saves almost asmuch cap as you could reasonably hope to replacing Kerfoot.

If that were to happen I'd like Cogliano at a mil or less to be in that 4th line LW/C rotation, strong defensive and pk ability.

If we're trying to fix our cap problems by moving guys like Engvall and Mikheyev, then I think the problems with the cap lie elsewhere on the roster.

 

[OVO16]

I like him on the 4th line, on the 3rd... would need good linemates.

Can he really be a 3rd line player? GOnna need some advanced stats on this one.

 

[4thline]

Can he really be a 3rd line player? GOnna need some advanced stats on this one.

Definitely a gamble IMO. They'd have to play a very simple N/S game.

 

[OVO16]

With Oilers smoke in mind, who here likes Khaira?

Will see a raise regardless of which way his RFA offseason goes, but certainly has the potential to be structured in a tight cap landscape.

Chuck what else you hearing bro. Give me some names

 

[613Leafer]

With Oilers smoke in mind, who here likes Khaira?

Will see a raise regardless of which way his RFA offseason goes, but certainly has the potential to be structured in a tight cap landscape.

He'd be nice to have on the 4th line. Not sure he's worth trading an asset for when you can just sign a guy like Martinook or various other options in free agency though.

 

[rumman]

How's does everyone feel about Jake DeBrusk? Seems to have fallen out of favor in Boston a bit and could probably be had a relatively cheap price.

He's young, has shown good potential, and plays with an edge. Seems like he would be a great fit on one of the top 2 lines IMO

Boston is a team that has a knack at moving on from players at the right time. That in itself makes me leery.

 

[mydnyte]

With Oilers smoke in mind, who here likes Khaira?

Will see a raise regardless of which way his RFA offseason goes, but certainly has the potential to be structured in a tight cap landscape.

depends on the price ...okay 4th liner i guess, dont see much more upside really
I'd rather grab Kuraly, or Armia who can C the 4th line and play physical, and should come in pretty cheap.

 

[LaPlante94]

I've been a fan of McCann for a long time. I think he makes a lot of sense. Without any spare picks, might be hard to pull off though.

If Seattle really likes Kerfoot maybe they can take McCann in the expansion draft for us and we trade Kerfoot for McCann. Could be the best/easiest way if Pittsburgh leaves him exposed.

 

[Dreakmur]

With Oilers smoke in mind, who here likes Khaira?

Will see a raise regardless of which way his RFA offseason goes, but certainly has the potential to be structured in a tight cap landscape.

I really like Khaira. He's probably a mediocre 3rd liner or an elite 4th liner.

Our cap crunch means we can't really afford players like him.

 

[Jozay]

A lot of names on that list the Leafs should be interested in. But things may change post expansion draft.

 

[htpwn]

If we're trying to fix our cap problems by moving guys like Engvall and Mikheyev, then I think the problems with the cap lie elsewhere on the roster.

Also, I think a lot of posters are just assuming we can move Engvall and Mikheyev, save $1M in cap, and then simply plug in replacements via FA.

The players we signed for below $1M last year included: Travis Boyd, Jimmy Vessy, and Joe Thornton.

In other words, while it'd be amazing if we could find another Clarke MacArthur, it is possible/likely that at least some (or even all) of our bargain bin signings bust, and we end up worse off. These guys are being signed for under $1M for a reason after all.

 

[justashadowof]

The last expansion draft it was almost like some franchises couldn't come to grips with losing a decent to good player. Several teams played into Vegas' hands giving up draft picks to protect particular players. Just accept that you're going to lose a player you'd like to keep and work from there. The lunacy is that the expansion team may not even have their eye on the player you don't want to lose.

 

[dubplatepressure]

The last expansion draft it was almost like some franchises couldn't come to grips with losing a decent to good player. Several teams played into Vegas' hands giving up draft picks to protect particular players. Just accept that you're going to lose a player you'd like to keep and work from there. The lunacy is that the expansion team may not even have their eye on the player you don't want to lose.

There is a ton of posturing that goes on between GMs right now. I am sure it's all fair game. Seattle wants the Vegas head-start and all other teams are trying to prevent that. Objectively, it's very interesting to see how this turns out this time.

 

[justashadowof]

Also, I think a lot of posters are just assuming we can move Engvall and Mikheyev, save $1M in cap, and then simply plug in replacements via FA.

The players we signed for below $1M last year included: Travis Boyd, Jimmy Vessy, and Joe Thornton.

In other words, while it'd be amazing if we could find another Clarke MacArthur, it is possible/likely that at least some (or even all) of our bargain bin signings bust, and we end up worse off. These guys are being signed for under $1M for a reason after all.

You implied this but I'm going to state it explicitly: if you peel off a $1.5M aav player he still has to be replaced by another player making at least league min probably more if you're hoping to get a more impactful replacement player. So in effect you've only freed up $500k to $750k max. In the end all they are saying is "find us some better players than Mikheyev and Engvall for less money." Good luck with that.

 

[613Leafer]

Also, I think a lot of posters are just assuming we can move Engvall and Mikheyev, save $1M in cap, and then simply plug in replacements via FA.

The players we signed for below $1M last year included: Travis Boyd, Jimmy Vessy, and Joe Thornton.

In other words, while it'd be amazing if we could find another Clarke MacArthur, it is possible/likely that at least some (or even all) of our bargain bin signings bust, and we end up worse off. These guys are being signed for under $1M for a reason after all.

Yep, exactly.

You're not getting the Janmark, Martinook, Cizikas, Goodrow, etc type of quality bottom 6 forwards for ~750K-1M. You're getting them for ~1.5-2.25M. Sure, we could roll the dice on a bunch of cheap guys, but as was seen last year, only Spezza and Bogosian turned out to be decent/good, whereas Lehtonen, Barabanov, Thornton, Boyd, Vesey, etc wouldn't be taking regular shifts on a Stanley Cup winning team.

 

[JBMAN55]

With Oilers smoke in mind, who here likes Khaira?

Will see a raise regardless of which way his RFA offseason goes, but certainly has the potential to be structured in a tight cap landscape.

Khaira is a player that cannot put up any points. In addition, his strength is his ability to hit and fight. Problem with those being his strengths is that he’s had a history of concussion. With this type of injury history for this kind of player it makes 0 sense. He also is somehow paid over 1 mill and is looking for a raise? No thank you.

 

[JBMAN55]

I really like Khaira. He's probably a mediocre 3rd liner or an elite 4th liner.

Our cap crunch means we can't really afford players like him.

Can you explain what you use to define this player as an elite 4th liner? Where does that idea come from?

 

[rumman]

Khaira is a player that cannot put up any points. In addition, his strength is his ability to hit and fight. Problem with those being his strengths is that he’s had a history of concussion. With this type of injury history for this kind of player it makes 0 sense. He also is somehow paid over 1 mill and is looking for a raise? No thank you.

I remember this fight……

 

[LaPlante94]

Is Montreal actually planning on letting Danault hit the open market? I actually thought they'd have a chance to make a playoff push but if they lose him then I don't think they do at all.

 

[Advanced stats]

Anyone else hoping to keep galchenyuk? What's that contract going to look like?