GDT: Trades & Free Agency Thread - Off-Season Early Edition

[SeaOfBlue]

Not sure why they'd be after Schwartz, but I guess it's the Canucks after all

I'd take him if he came for the right price.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Coleman, Goodrow, Bertuzzi, Wood

Anyone but Mikeyhev, Kerfoot & Engvall

Kerfoot would be one of the better players on that list. Mikheyev is one of the better defensive players.

Not sure why people are obsessed with Wood. He's not that good of a player.

 

[Knies iT]

As good of an addition as Landeskog would be, this just screams of an agent using the Leafs as leverage yet again.

Similar to Stamkos and Pietrangelo. Not buying it anymore. COL ownership has deep pockets and although they have a cap crunch looming, he's one of the best leaders in the game and someone they will make moves to retain. No question, IMO.

 

[Rielly4]

As good of an addition as Landeskog would be, this just screams of an agent using the Leafs as leverage yet again.

Similar to Stamkos and Pietrangelo. Not buying it anymore. COL ownership has deep pockets and although they have a cap crunch looming, he's one of the best leaders in the game and someone they will make moves to retain. No question, IMO.

Only reason I could see for the Avs letting Landeskog go is if they move Byram for a big ticket guy like Eichel.

Byram doesnt seem like a great fit there with girard, toews and makar all being offensive puck movers. If Avs get Eichel they could potentially let Landeskog go and maybe we would be one of the few contenders that could afford him.

 

[Stonehands1990]

Kerfoot would be one of the better players on that list. Mikheyev is one of the better defensive players.

Not sure why people are obsessed with Wood. He's not that good of a player.

Both decent players but don’t fit the identity that some posters are going for.

 

[613Leafer]

As good of an addition as Landeskog would be, this just screams of an agent using the Leafs as leverage yet again.

Similar to Stamkos and Pietrangelo. Not buying it anymore. COL ownership has deep pockets and although they have a cap crunch looming, he's one of the best leaders in the game and someone they will make moves to retain. No question, IMO.

I think Pietrangelo had legit interest, we just didn't have the capspace to make a legitimate offer. We probably only offered him like 6.5-7M.. He's from the GTA, had already won a Cup, and one of his good friends in Tavares is on the team.

But yea, I think Landeskog seems suspect. Colorado is a top contending team who should only be getting better in the next few years. Don't see why Landeskog would leave other than $$, which we again for cap reasons, can't match.

 

[Nylander88]

You are glass half full while I am glass half empty. It can go off the rails pretty quickly if they don't get a quality backup with starter potential and Soup goes down. Great opportunity for a Driedger to get a starter job with the Leafs.

We're probably one of the better opportunities for a guy like Driedger. Not a lot of teams around the League with the starter being a guy, that while I believe in, has never done it in his career. Have to think it's enticing for a guy like Driedger who is looking to carve out a starting gig. At worst you're 1B and get likely 40% of the starts.

 

[Nylander88]

Coleman, Goodrow, Bertuzzi, Wood

Anyone but Mikeyhev, Kerfoot & Engvall

If we got Coleman or Bertuzzi, they would for sure be in the top 6. Goodrow I really want, and I'd love to make a trade for Miles Wood. To be honest though, even those two could potentially play as complimentary players in our top 6

 

[Stonehands1990]

If we got Coleman or Bertuzzi, they would for sure be in the top 6. Goodrow I really want, and I'd love to make a trade for Miles Wood. To be honest though, even those two could potentially play as complimentary players in our top 6

As long as we’re making strides towards mixing physicality with skill. Not this Kyle Dubas I signed a 4th liner crap

 

[rumman]

The only Quebecer on the Habs isn't leaving Montreal IMO.

Certainly not for Toronto imo.

 

[rumman]

We'll be one of the best teams in the league this year, again.

Regular season maybe, post season not so much.

 

[ACC1224]

Regular season maybe, post season not so much.

What does best team even mean? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?
IMO, you aren’t one of the best teams if you aren’t top 5 and it’s tough to see them as that.

 

[rumman]

What does best team even mean? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?
IMO, you aren’t one of the best teams if you aren’t top 5 and it’s tough to see them as that.

They’re successful in the regular season when games aren’t as tight, but when the play tightens up and the neutral zone clogs up they’re lost. No one except Hyman has the motor and fortitude to dump the puck in and go get it. This team wants to only carry the puck into the offensive zone with some elite zone entry with physical contact being avoided at all costs. Teams know this and know how to shut them down.

“Best” teams have elite goaltending, defence, and offence that doesn’t disappear like a fart in the wind.

 

[Legion34]

Mirtle said the leafs didn’t even negotiate with Hyman really. He said they decided to move on to other plans. Whatever that is

 

[ToneDog]

Team has so

Regular season maybe, post season not so much.

Many question marks they could fold like a cheap tent in the regular season. Goaltending, bottom pair D, Hyman gone, Kerfoot or Dermott gone.

Dubas thinks he can win with 1 elite C, one real good C and 2 ballerinas by surrounding them with a bunch of scrubs. Reality check is coming.

 

[mydnyte]

What is serious contention by your standards?

What inspires you confidence that Marner and/or Matthews and/or JT and/or Nylander will be able to figure it all at once at the same time for four rounds?

There is no disputing we have traded offensive depth for defensive depth. We have a good top 4 with solid 5-7 options but have seen this occurring at the cost of sacrifices to the top 9.

We need robertson+ Anderson + Brooks/Hallinder to be impact players next year if we want to gain back that offensive depth and edge we've had in the past and and need the star forwards to figure it out in April

We are fringe contenders right now and not a top 5 team next year

Our "impact players' are Matthews, Marner, Tavares, and Nylander ...the players you listed only need to be able to take a regular shift and chip in sometimes, anything extra is gravy.
Though Robertson should be in the top 6 while the rest are likely 4th line players.

 

[mydnyte]

As good of an addition as Landeskog would be, this just screams of an agent using the Leafs as leverage yet again.

Similar to Stamkos and Pietrangelo. Not buying it anymore. COL ownership has deep pockets and although they have a cap crunch looming, he's one of the best leaders in the game and someone they will make moves to retain. No question, IMO.

Colorado will need to sign Makar, and soon after re-up MacKinnon, so, they need to be cap smart

 

[rumman]

Our "impact players' are Matthews, Marner, Tavares, and Nylander ...the players you listed only need to be able to take a regular shift and chip in sometimes, anything extra is gravy.
Though Robertson should be in the top 6 while the rest are likely 4th line players.

4 forwards aren’t winning you a cup period.

 

[mydnyte]

They’re successful in the regular season when games aren’t as tight, but when the play tightens up and the neutral zone clogs up they’re lost. No one except Hyman has the motor and fortitude to dump the puck in and go get it. This team wants to only carry the puck into the offensive zone with some elite zone entry with physical contact being avoided at all costs. Teams know this and know how to shut them down.

“Best” teams have elite goaltending, defence, and offence that doesn’t disappear like a fart in the wind.

Yea, Hyman does that all the time, but, then he eats the puck. He almost never gets it to Matthews/Marner because he thinks he's a star player and can do things himself.

 

[ToneDog]

Our "impact players' are Matthews, Marner, Tavares, and Nylander ...the players you listed only need to be able to take a regular shift and chip in sometimes, anything extra is gravy.
Though Robertson should be in the top 6 while the rest are likely 4th line players.

Is that how Tampa won the Cup? Seems to me the final 4 teams had depth and got large contributions. Our forward depth is pathetic and our stars are easily shutdown in the playoffs. Sounds like a winning combination.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Mirtle said the leafs didn’t even negotiate with Hyman really. He said they decided to move on to other plans. Whatever that is

They knew they were priced out early. That means they aren't even thinking in the 4-5MM range at the term Hyman will get elsewhere. I don't think it's a bad move (to walk away from him), it's just another solid player that will go onto the UFA-walk list.

 

[Coachcorner]

Coleman, Goodrow, Bertuzzi, Wood

Anyone but Mikeyhev, Kerfoot & Engvall

That's a huge amount of great playaz and not playettez milord. I would definitely feel Coleman, Goodrow, Bertuzzi, even Wood. Bertuzzi would come a fan favourite sucka in toronto, just like Coleman. They cool. Hard. Still winning, what!!!!

 

[mydnyte]

Is that how Tampa won the Cup? Seems to me the final 4 teams had depth and got large contributions. Our forward depth is pathetic and our stars are easily shutdown in the playoffs. Sounds like a winning combination.

well they have the best goalie in the world, and best d-man, which could have been a Leaf if Burke's ego wasnt as big as it was. ...Schenn and our 1st would have got us Hedman, and Burkie thought that was too much and then bragged about how he 'could' have made the deal.
Imagine the difference the Leafs team would be today with Hedman rather than Schenn (who we already knew wasnt as good as advertized because he cant skate) and Kadri

 

[Burnie97]

Seattle isn't messing around and good for them... but if those are the types of deals they're trying to do... just let them pick.

 

[ToneDog]

well they have the best goalie in the world, and best d-man, which could have been a Leaf if Burke's ego wasnt as big as it was. ...Schenn and our 1st would have got us Hedman, and Burkie thought that was too much and then bragged about how he 'could' have made the deal.
Imagine the difference the Leafs team would be today with Hedman rather than Schenn (who we already knew wasnt as good as advertized because he cant skate) and Kadri

In hindsight Hedman should have gone #1. Played with a partial tear of his meniscus.