GDT: Trades & Free Agency Thread - Off-Season Early Edition

[WTFMAN99]

As bad as Barrie can be, old man Keith is definitely worse. Barrie can at least help run a PP.

This is a 5 million dollar anchor on their bottom pairing, and they're probably going to give him top 2 minutes.

You're probably look at something like this;

Nurse-Larsson
Keith-Bear
Russell-Bouchard
Lagesson

Not sure on Klefbom's status for next season and Bear could be a Kraken.

Klefbom being healthy bumps Keith down a pairing.

 

[mydnyte]

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.....they had to sign Dermott simply to have a D to expose. So trading him puts the Leafs into a situation where they need to acquire a D just to be able to expose.

If the Leafs get a good player, he may have to be exposed - and then get selected, and if the Leafs get a fringe player who doesn't get selected, then they wasted a roster spot and cap space.

I don't see a clear avenue for a trade here.

if that's the actual reason, that means the Leafs are going 4-4-1, because under 7-3-1 exposing Holl was enough.

 

[mydnyte]

As bad as Barrie can be, old man Keith is definitely worse. Barrie can at least help run a PP.

This is a 5 million dollar anchor on their bottom pairing, and they're probably going to give him top 2 minutes.

We had Barrie and he was worthless in the playoff and we were out ...Oil had Barrie in the playoffs and he was extra worthless, and they were swept out. ...I dont think Keith could be worse if he was playing on rollerblades than Barrie was in the playoffs the last 2 seasons.

 

[Brobust]

To me I am shocked that Sandin is not a good skater. I know he will get over power due to his size but he is not quick at all. That’s going to hurt him in the NHL.
I don’t think he is crap but definitely not the top pairing Dman we thought.

Sandin not being a good skater is a bullshit idea.

He's got good agility and he's deceptive.

 

[mydnyte]

Sandin not being a good skater is a bullshit idea.

He's got good agility and he's deceptive.

he's too weak... thats one reason i prefer Lil over Sandin, he is more physically ready and more responsible defensively

 

[Gabriel426]

Sandin not being a good skater is a bullshit idea.

He's got good agility and he's deceptive.

He needs to be a lot better, b/c for someone his size, he needs to be better

 

[fahad203]

Sandin not being a good skater is a bullshit idea.

He's got good agility and he's deceptive.

It seems that way because most people saw him play against the Habs. Notibly
I think people forget the Habs are a very good skating team

Especially Byron, Suzuki and Caufield. Even Anderson is a very good skater and they keep coming at you
That's overwhelming for even Rielly. Sandin needs to play and play more.

Kenny Jonsson was never an elite skater but he was a remarkable D

 

[Brobust]

he's too weak... thats one reason i prefer Lil over Sandin, he is more physically ready and more responsible defensively

They're developing into completely different type of players.

Sandin's transition play is already close to being the best on the leafs. Liljegren is trying to play a more simple, responsible game in the NHL.

 

[Minty Cowboy]

It seems that way because most people saw him play against the Habs. Notibly
I think people forget the Habs are a very good skating team

Especially Byron, Suzuki and Caufield. Even Anderson is a very good skater and they keep coming at you
That's overwhelming for even Rielly. Sandin needs to play and play more.

Kenny Jonsson was never an elite skater but he was a remarkable D

Anderson is a good straight line skater but his edges and turning ability are below average to say the least.

 

[96]

I'm sure Dubas' dumbass is going to sign Sam Gagner as a 4th liner and see it as an upgrade on a guy like Thornton

 

[Throw More Waffles]

I don’t understand that Keith trade from the Oilers perspective in the slightest….

 

[Menzinger]

The more I think about the Keith trade I wonder if they screwed up the paper work about which team was supposed to be sending the picks....

 

[Buds17]

Think that trade is okay for the Oilers (not sure about their overall cap situation). They were the better team last season and going there could help Keith's numbers a bit. The Cup wins and playoff experience gained probably won't hurt either. Good for the Hawks as well if this provides them with the inside track on acquiring Seth Jones.

 

[kb]

if that's the actual reason, that means the Leafs are going 4-4-1, because under 7-3-1 exposing Holl was enough.

Yep. I believe 4-4-1 was the original intention. But now they could go either way with the recent signings of Simmonds and Spezza - which gives them 8 qualifying forwards and the ability to expose one.

 

[Nylander88]

I’d trade Nylander in a New York minute, but not for a power forward with a bad back. Folino says hi.

I hope he does say hi haha at the right price, I want Foligno back. So

 

[rumman]

I hope he does say hi haha at the right price, I want Foligno back. So

no, you mean you want a healthy Folino at the right price.

 

[freshwind]

RE: Ceci

Ceci was qualified at 4.3 ... he filed for arbitration, the reason the leafs went 4.5 is they wanted to control the term ... in arbitration Ceci could choose 2 years ... that is the crux of it ... no need for revisionist history to bash dubas ...

 

[Nylander88]

no, you mean you want a healthy Folino at the right price.

I don't think he's any more injury troubled than Hyman. Does all the same things as Hyman but hits and fights more and will be cheaper. If he wants to come back, I think he's an obvious add. We didn't get a great preview and it's left some sour

 

[stickty111]

I'm sure Dubas' dumbass is going to sign Sam Gagner as a 4th liner and see it as an upgrade on a guy like Thornton

Not a good look to using nicknames to insult someone.
Also no evidence he would do that.

 

[Jozay]

The trade is bad because they probably had all the leverage and still couldnt get chicago to retain.

 

[dubplatepressure]

The more I think about the Keith trade I wonder if they screwed up the paper work about which team was supposed to be sending the picks....

Reminds me of the Finger Ufa signing

 

[stickty111]

Worse and worse

 

[Jozay]

Worse and worse

This wont happen, so they can still count on having that 2nd.

 

[nuck]

You're probably look at something like this;

Nurse-Larsson
Keith-Bear
Russell-Bouchard
Lagesson

Not sure on Klefbom's status for next season and Bear could be a Kraken.

Klefbom being healthy bumps Keith down a pairing.

I have been listening to the Edmonton media guys along with the TSN people beating this drum for the last week. Keefe basically takes Klefs spot who will get dealt or not protected or LTIRed. Also DK is almost guaranteed to be #2 pairing with Larsson as the word is a lot of his challenges this last season may have been related to rotating inexperienced battery mates so the Oil want to put him in a position to succeed. Maybe if 2019-20 Bear shows up again they juggle things into the season. It does make sense they won't try to carry Keith's full hit as well as Klefbom's $4.1M because they still need to add probably 2 forwards.

 

[nuck]

I don't think he's any more injury troubles than Hyman. Does all the same things as Hyman but hits and fights more and will be cheaper. If he wants to come back, I think he's an obvious add. We didn't get a great preview and it's left some sour

Hyman is getting 4 years or more wherever he signs. Foligno is maybe a 2 year guy and that's real separation when you consider Hyman will also command the higher AAV. Of course it might come down to nickels and dimes with the Leafs money situation and he goes back to Columbus for an extra $500k that Dubas just doesn't have. I don't know how appealing it would be to Nick to end his run with a non contender though and his wife is a Sudbury girl so going north for a couple years might be an easy sell.