Jones is also 1 1/2 yr younger.
Why can’t Leafs get a good deal like the Jones deal, why does Leafs need to overpay for everyone.
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Why can’t Leafs get a good deal like the Jones deal, why does Leafs need to overpay for everyone.
Kurtz
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Would you have dealt Wall + 1st for Jones with retention?
The real need here is a TOP4 D.
Empty the bank for Andersson, or pay a bit less for Parayko. Then proceed to see if there is available CAP to be allocated for a 3C.
Empty the bank for Andersson, or pay a bit less for Parayko. Then proceed to see if there is available CAP to be allocated for a 3C.
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I truly hate that 3rd line. It’s the perfect combination of all the mistakes we’ve made building the bottom 6: 3 expensive guys with no exceptional skills, who don’t have an obvious job to do as a unit, and who’s individual styles don’t complement each other. If it’s a defensive grinding line, why is Domi on it? If it’s a sheltered scoring line, why is Jarnkrok on it, who’s the shooter? It’s not fast, only Schenn is remotely physical, it can’t grind and cycle, none of them are key special teams guys, and it costs 13 mil in cap + 1st++ to get Schenn. Tampa and Florida will get more mileage out of Paul/Lundell + whichever of their random AHL scraps decide to become high end energy grinders this year for 1/3rd the price of that line.
Mark Masters: Maple Leafs GM Brad Treliving looks to separate fact from fiction as deadline looms | TSN
Brad Treliving was asked if he feels compelled to make a bigger splash ahead of the NHL trade deadline because of how wide open the Eastern Conference playoff field appears to be this year.
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It won't be easy for Treliving to make a significant move. The Leafs have limited cap space and limited assets after years of buying. And Treliving isn't so sure a big move would actually be worth it.
"Historically, look back and these attention-grabbing deadline deals, how many have really paid dividends?" he mused. "Sometimes moving the needle is a small [move]. Maybe it's not the sexy headline-grabbing move, but where are areas that you can shore up."
During his first trade deadline in Toronto, Treliving acquired defencemen Joel Edmundson and Ilya Lyubushkin as well as forward Connor Dewar, but it wasn't enough to help the team get by the Boston Bruins in a hard-fought seven-game series.
The issue right now, Treliving notes, is the lack of sellers and the high prices being set from those who are open for business.
"You got to determine fact from fiction, what players are actually available," the 55-year-old said. "You look around, there's still lots of teams in the race. I would say in comparison to years past, it's a little bit slower just because I think there's a lot more teams that maybe haven't declared yet."
The bottom line?
"I like our team," Treliving said. "I'd like to see if we can make it better by Friday than it is today."
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Is Treliving hoping to sign some of his players on expiring contracts to extensions prior to the deadline?
"That might be a gentle way of saying, 'Any contract updates?'" Treliving quipped with a smile.
Star winger Mitch Marner and centre John Tavares are due to become unrestricted free agents on July 1. Top-line winger Matthew Knies is a pending restricted free agent.
"Yeah, hey, you'd like to always have certainty," Treliving acknowledged. "You always like to get things done. But, at present, they're not. We'll see where those go."
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Mark Masters: Maple Leafs GM Brad Treliving looks to separate fact from fiction as deadline looms | TSN
Brad Treliving was asked if he feels compelled to make a bigger splash ahead of the NHL trade deadline because of how wide open the Eastern Conference playoff field appears to be this year.
It won't be easy for Treliving to make a significant move. The Leafs have limited cap space and limited assets after years of buying. And Treliving isn't so sure a big move would actually be worth it.
"Historically, look back and these attention-grabbing deadline deals, how many have really paid dividends?" he mused. "Sometimes moving the needle is a small [move]. Maybe it's not the sexy headline-grabbing move, but where are areas that you can shore up."
During his first trade deadline in Toronto, Treliving acquired defencemen Joel Edmundson and Ilya Lyubushkin as well as forward Connor Dewar, but it wasn't enough to help the team get by the Boston Bruins in a hard-fought seven-game series.
The issue right now, Treliving notes, is the lack of sellers and the high prices being set from those who are open for business.
"You got to determine fact from fiction, what players are actually available," the 55-year-old said. "You look around, there's still lots of teams in the race. I would say in comparison to years past, it's a little bit slower just because I think there's a lot more teams that maybe haven't declared yet."
The bottom line?
"I like our team," Treliving said. "I'd like to see if we can make it better by Friday than it is today."
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Is Treliving hoping to sign some of his players on expiring contracts to extensions prior to the deadline?
"That might be a gentle way of saying, 'Any contract updates?'" Treliving quipped with a smile.
Star winger Mitch Marner and centre John Tavares are due to become unrestricted free agents on July 1. Top-line winger Matthew Knies is a pending restricted free agent.
"Yeah, hey, you'd like to always have certainty," Treliving acknowledged. "You always like to get things done. But, at present, they're not. We'll see where those go."
"Lower thine expectations" - Brad Treliving
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Mark Masters: Maple Leafs GM Brad Treliving looks to separate fact from fiction as deadline looms | TSN
Brad Treliving was asked if he feels compelled to make a bigger splash ahead of the NHL trade deadline because of how wide open the Eastern Conference playoff field appears to be this year.
It won't be easy for Treliving to make a significant move. The Leafs have limited cap space and limited assets after years of buying. And Treliving isn't so sure a big move would actually be worth it.
"Historically, look back and these attention-grabbing deadline deals, how many have really paid dividends?" he mused. "Sometimes moving the needle is a small [move]. Maybe it's not the sexy headline-grabbing move, but where are areas that you can shore up."
During his first trade deadline in Toronto, Treliving acquired defencemen Joel Edmundson and Ilya Lyubushkin as well as forward Connor Dewar, but it wasn't enough to help the team get by the Boston Bruins in a hard-fought seven-game series.
The issue right now, Treliving notes, is the lack of sellers and the high prices being set from those who are open for business.
"You got to determine fact from fiction, what players are actually available," the 55-year-old said. "You look around, there's still lots of teams in the race. I would say in comparison to years past, it's a little bit slower just because I think there's a lot more teams that maybe haven't declared yet."
The bottom line?
"I like our team," Treliving said. "I'd like to see if we can make it better by Friday than it is today."
---
Is Treliving hoping to sign some of his players on expiring contracts to extensions prior to the deadline?
"That might be a gentle way of saying, 'Any contract updates?'" Treliving quipped with a smile.
Star winger Mitch Marner and centre John Tavares are due to become unrestricted free agents on July 1. Top-line winger Matthew Knies is a pending restricted free agent.
"Yeah, hey, you'd like to always have certainty," Treliving acknowledged. "You always like to get things done. But, at present, they're not. We'll see where those go."
Sure seems like the Leafs are preparing a similar deadline as last year st this pace. I'm expecting Gourde and probably a vet defenseman again.
I keep Robertson on the third line personally and move domi out and put his cap space to use Robertson under a mil value wise rfa that can put the pucc in the net then it makes sense for jarnkrok to be on the other side with a two way forward with play making skill sound like someone………..spend the money on the bacc end
What the hell what if it’s bobby mcmann holmberg and jarnkrok that line might even work as a checcin line
Kurtz
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A deal with Seattle would check all the boxes without costing too much. Gourde, Tanev, Oleksiak (can play some RD if I recall).
thusk
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The closest leafs player for knight value in Toronto, its Knies... so i dont know how you can considerate florida deal like a great deal and something like 1st + cowan+ minten by exemple like an overpay for Parayko...
Brad seems to be in line with people here thinking that the prices are way too high.Mark Masters: Maple Leafs GM Brad Treliving looks to separate fact from fiction as deadline looms | TSN
Brad Treliving was asked if he feels compelled to make a bigger splash ahead of the NHL trade deadline because of how wide open the Eastern Conference playoff field appears to be this year.
It won't be easy for Treliving to make a significant move. The Leafs have limited cap space and limited assets after years of buying. And Treliving isn't so sure a big move would actually be worth it.
"Historically, look back and these attention-grabbing deadline deals, how many have really paid dividends?" he mused. "Sometimes moving the needle is a small [move]. Maybe it's not the sexy headline-grabbing move, but where are areas that you can shore up."
During his first trade deadline in Toronto, Treliving acquired defencemen Joel Edmundson and Ilya Lyubushkin as well as forward Connor Dewar, but it wasn't enough to help the team get by the Boston Bruins in a hard-fought seven-game series.
The issue right now, Treliving notes, is the lack of sellers and the high prices being set from those who are open for business.
"You got to determine fact from fiction, what players are actually available," the 55-year-old said. "You look around, there's still lots of teams in the race. I would say in comparison to years past, it's a little bit slower just because I think there's a lot more teams that maybe haven't declared yet."
The bottom line?
"I like our team," Treliving said. "I'd like to see if we can make it better by Friday than it is today."
---
Is Treliving hoping to sign some of his players on expiring contracts to extensions prior to the deadline?
"That might be a gentle way of saying, 'Any contract updates?'" Treliving quipped with a smile.
Star winger Mitch Marner and centre John Tavares are due to become unrestricted free agents on July 1. Top-line winger Matthew Knies is a pending restricted free agent.
"Yeah, hey, you'd like to always have certainty," Treliving acknowledged. "You always like to get things done. But, at present, they're not. We'll see where those go."
Looks like another season will go by with the fanbase criticizing him for trading for Ristolainen without actually trading for Ristolainen.
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worse, he has terrible production at 5v5, and he isn't cracking our PP unit.
Bad idea.
There are good players, players that don't move the needle, and bad players.
He won't move the needle, and may actually be veering into bad player category.
Lets go after good players or not trade.
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Upgrading:
Timmins to Kesselring
Dewar to Laughton
Holmberg to Tanev
While dumping Domi
Would be ideal deadline
Knies Matthews Marner
McMann Tavares Nylander
Robertson Laughton Jarnkrok
Lorentz Kampf Tanev
Pacioretty Reaves
Rielly Kesselring
McCabe Tanev
Benoit OEL
Myers
Timmins to Kesselring
Dewar to Laughton
Holmberg to Tanev
While dumping Domi
Would be ideal deadline
Knies Matthews Marner
McMann Tavares Nylander
Robertson Laughton Jarnkrok
Lorentz Kampf Tanev
Pacioretty Reaves
Rielly Kesselring
McCabe Tanev
Benoit OEL
Myers
I'd rather do that than do something insane like Schenn, his contract is atrocious and we get to pay through the nose to aquire him
Where do I sign up?
If Gourde is fit he's a good option, he isn't sexy but he's a good mix of acquisition cost plus ability
That's if he's fit though
Sounds like he might get a game in before the deadline, so there's definitely some injury risk but he's a good player and we won't have to clear out the prospect pool to get him
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That’s not true at all, Knies has quite a bit more value than Knight.
Knight is closer in value to Woll than Knies, but still not as much.
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Knight hes 3 year younger than Woll. 23 still pretty young for goslie
a 23 yo goalie = 20 yo foward in term of development
Knight value > Woll
Knight hes 3 year younger than Woll. 23 still pretty young for goslie
a 23 yo goalie = 20 yo foward in term of development
Knight value > Woll
I like Knight, even suggested a 1 for 1 type deal this past off-season of Woll for Knight straight up and running a Knight - Stolarz tandem which would also help the Panthers free up some cap space but to be honest, I’m pretty happy that did not happen and we kept Woll. I’d say their value is pretty similar though.
Knies however, no chance. 22 year old power forward already playing on the top line. 22 goals and counting in his second full year of pro… I’m keeping that over Knight any day.
Knies however, no chance. 22 year old power forward already playing on the top line. 22 goals and counting in his second full year of pro… I’m keeping that over Knight any day.
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yeah prices are super high. If you’re going to spend big assets it should be a real game changer. If you can’t get Parayko just do one stop shopping with Seattle and get cheaper options like Oleksiak and Tanev. No way in hell should the Leafs be trading a 2026 first and a prospect like Minten for Brayden f***ing Schenn who’s like 34 years old and has a 6.5 mil cap hit
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