Trades & Free Agency Thread: 2024-2025 Season Edition

[SprDaVE]

I would still do it. There is always the need for a big RHD and his upside is quite tantalizing … even if he tops out as a reliable top 4 guy and not a top pair, that price is good for the long term.

Landing him and not giving up one of their top assets in Greb, Knies, Cowan, Danford, Minten would be pretty stellar. There is a need for quality D in the pipeline too.

I agree the fit is awkward especially since the Leafs are competing but there was a big opportunity here too

The fit was very awkward. Jiricek is all about draft pedigree. He barely played in Columbus at the NHL level. Was he going to play over Timmins or Hakanpaa this season? Probably not. But I'm also not as confident in his upside so maybe that doesn't help.

We already have a fairly limited amount of good assets to trade in terms of picks and prospects. So using a lot of it to not even fix the lineup doesn't really make sense. If Jiricek was a center or even a winger, I would have probably been a lot more interested.

Minny obviously liked him enough to trade a lot of futures for him. We'll see if it works out.

 

[arso40]

How do feel about bringing Jake Walman back to his hometown? He's having a great year in SJ and showing hes a good top 4 dman. He's 28 so he doesn't fit with SJ's rebuild so it makes sense for both teams.

Another left shot dman might as well have kept lily if we’re doing that bad asset management

 

[Burnie97]

That was a very nice 2nd period.

Close it out Leafers

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Thank f*** Nicky Bobby got one, hopefully he can go on a tear and gain some value now.

 

[thusk]

harvey-pinard on waiver could be an interesting target with all leafs injuries

 

[TMLAM34]

harvey-pinard on waiver could be an interesting target with all leafs injuries

Seems pretty pointless, especially with a couple bodies coming back from injury. Rather just keep giving guys like Minten, Grebenkin, etc an opportunity.

 

[thusk]

Seems pretty pointless, especially with a couple bodies coming back from injury. Rather just keep giving guys like Minten, Grebenkin, etc an opportunity.

Injuries slow him down last 2 year but hes a guy who play with a lot of energy and playing and with a great hockey sense.

If hes able to overcome his injury and find his game back, pretty sure everyone here would love him

 

[SprDaVE]

harvey-pinard on waiver could be an interesting target with all leafs injuries

Seems pretty pointless, especially with a couple bodies coming back from injury. Rather just keep giving guys like Minten, Grebenkin, etc an opportunity.

He's not a big player and I just don't see the Leafs having any interest for what they need. It's probably not worth it at all.

RHP is/was pretty solid, he's just been injured a lot so the Habs are hoping to stash him in the AHL after a lengthy LTIR stay. He's also carrying a cap hit over 1M, so not really great.

 

[LeafEgo]

The Avs traded a young goalie and a pick for Scott Wedgewood. Surely we can get some kind of pick for Matt Murray at some point

Possibly a late pick from a team that needs goalie depth going into the playoffs. The Avs wern't going to trade anything for a goalie that might not be available past warm ups. They needed a bit of breathing room, even if it's mediocre.

 

[thusk]

He's not a big player and I just don't see the Leafs having any interest for what they need. It's probably not worth it at all.

RHP is/was pretty solid, he's just been injured a lot so the Habs are hoping to stash him in the AHL after a lengthy LTIR stay. He's also carrying a cap hit over 1M, so not really great.

Not big but playing with a ton of grit, can play up and down the line up

What i saw right now is leafs having 2 top 6 line and 2 4th line with no 3rd line and to have succes in playoff you need 3 line. For me the player who really are top 9 player is core 4 + knies, mcmann and domi... that's it... RHP can be an upgrade for anything remaining after those 7 player and be a good complement for a 3rd line... For 225 K over robertson who kill the play most of the time he touched the puck, personally i take the risk..

 

[SprDaVE]

Not big but playing with a ton of grit, can play up and down the line up

What i saw right now is leafs having 2 top 6 line and 2 4th line with no 3rd line and to have succes in playoff you need 3 line. For me the player who really are top 9 player is core 4 + knies, mcmann and domi... that's it... RHP can be an upgrade for anything remaining after those 7 player and be a good complement for a 3rd line... For 225 K over robertson who kill the play most of the time he touched the puck, personally i take the risk..

They do have a 3rd line. What they need is a center to solidify it. RHP doesn't fix any of that and putting your eggs into a player that's been injured for a long time isn't really going to make it better than the current players. Testing our own young players is worth much more than picking up a broken player with a chance at being ok for a couple weeks. Montreal doesn't even want him in the NHL and they are awful.

McMann, Pacioretty and Domi are all going to be back within the next 2 or maybe 3 weeks depending.

 

[thusk]

They do have a 3rd line. What they need is a center to solidify it. RHP doesn't fix any of that and putting your eggs into a player that's been injured for a long time isn't really going to make it better than the current players. Montreal doesn't even want him in the NHL and they are awful.

Its not putting all egg into RHP but tell me what leafs really have to lose?

Grebenkin i liked him and will probably becoming a good piece but hes not NHL ready...right now outside of hitting, hes pretty useless

Minten showing good thing but need time to still developing in AHL to maybe take 3C spot next season

Robertson: did we really have something to lose here? He had been pretty useless all year long

Holmberg look even more like a 4th line defensive specialist

dewar/ lorentz /kampf 4th line player

If its doesn't work, just moved it back on waiver when people coming back

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Matthews didn't score last night and the Leafs have a winning record whenever he's is out of the lineup... they should trade him.

Leafs trade Matthews, McCabe, Domi
New Jersey Trades Hischier, Hamilton, Nemec

Knies(1)/Hischier(7.25)/Nylander(11.5)
McMann(1)/Tavares(11)/Marner(11)
Lorentz(1)/Minten(1)/Jarnkrok(2)
Holmberg(1)/Kampf(2.5)/Dewar(1)
*Reaves(1.35)

OEL(3.5)/Hamilton(10)
Rielly(7.5)/Tanev(4.5)
Benoit(1)/Nemec(1)
*Hakanpaa(1.5), Timmins(1)

Stolarz (2.5)
Woll (1)

 

[Fogelhund]

Matthews didn't score last night and the Leafs have a winning record whenever he's is out of the lineup... they should trade him.

Leafs trade Matthews, McCabe, Domi
New Jersey Trades Hischier, Hamilton, Nemec

Knies(1)/Hischier(7.25)/Nylander(11.5)
McMann(1)/Tavares(11)/Marner(11)
Lorentz(1)/Minten(1)/Jarnkrok(2)
Holmberg(1)/Kampf(2.5)/Dewar(1)
*Reaves(1.35)

OEL(3.5)/Hamilton(10)
Rielly(7.5)/Tanev(4.5)
Benoit(1)/Nemec(1)
*Hakanpaa(1.5), Timmins(1)

Stolarz (2.5)
Woll (1)

Put down the crack pipe.

 

[al secord]

Matthews didn't score last night and the Leafs have a winning record whenever he's is out of the lineup... they should trade him.

Leafs trade Matthews, McCabe, Domi
New Jersey Trades Hischier, Hamilton, Nemec

Knies(1)/Hischier(7.25)/Nylander(11.5)
McMann(1)/Tavares(11)/Marner(11)
Lorentz(1)/Minten(1)/Jarnkrok(2)
Holmberg(1)/Kampf(2.5)/Dewar(1)
*Reaves(1.35)

OEL(3.5)/Hamilton(10)
Rielly(7.5)/Tanev(4.5)
Benoit(1)/Nemec(1)
*Hakanpaa(1.5), Timmins(1)

Stolarz (2.5)
Woll (1)

Can we trade you for future considerations?

 

[SprDaVE]

Matthews didn't score last night and the Leafs have a winning record whenever he's is out of the lineup... they should trade him.

Leafs trade Matthews, McCabe, Domi
New Jersey Trades Hischier, Hamilton, Nemec

Knies(1)/Hischier(7.25)/Nylander(11.5)
McMann(1)/Tavares(11)/Marner(11)
Lorentz(1)/Minten(1)/Jarnkrok(2)
Holmberg(1)/Kampf(2.5)/Dewar(1)
*Reaves(1.35)

OEL(3.5)/Hamilton(10)
Rielly(7.5)/Tanev(4.5)
Benoit(1)/Nemec(1)
*Hakanpaa(1.5), Timmins(1)

Stolarz (2.5)
Woll (1)

I dunno I think NJD needs to send us a 6th round pick to make it fair

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

I dunno I think NJD needs to send us a 6th round pick to make it fair

I could have done the obvious and said Hughes but I think Hirschier is a better centre and Jersey isn't giving up Hughes.

Hirshier is a point a game 30 goal scoring 1C drafted first overall on a value deal just entering his prime, to go along with a 40-50+ point 1RHD top fifty defenseman in the league in Hamilton, plus one of the world's top RHD prospects in Nemec who was drafted second overall and, along with Danford, should solidify the future of that position for a decade or more after Hamilton and Tanev are useless, which may come sooner than some might think. Domi and McCabe are throw ins to make the csp work. I'm not sure how much more people think Matthews is worth but teams aren't gonna let the Leafs rip them off and sometimes you gotta take chances and make uneasy decisions to get ahead.

It's that exact same "safe in what we have, because it's the best we ever had, even though it's still not good enough" mentality that's the reason why the Leafs will never win the cup.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Boring TDL

 

[MarMarSab3]

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Love the trades, would do the lines differently

Knies Matthews Nylander
Mcmann Tavares Marner
Pacioretty Dvorak Domi
Lorentz Kampf Dewar

McCabe Tanev
OEL Fabbro
Reilly Timmins (Reilly needs strictly o zone starts)

 

[WTFMAN99]

Love the trades, would do the lines differently

Knies Matthews Nylander
Mcmann Tavares Marner
Pacioretty Dvorak Domi
Lorentz Kampf Dewar

McCabe Tanev
OEL Fabbro
Reilly Timmins (Reilly needs strictly o zone starts)

Yeah I noticed at the least 88/Marner needed to be swapped, overlooked on my part.

 

[Canada4Gold]

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Fabbro can't be traded for the rest of the season unless he's first been offered to any other teams who made a waiver claim on him. So that trade only works if no other teams put in a claim, or Columbus are willing to risk losing him for free to those teams in hopes they now say no so they can't get the pick from us.

 

[Canada4Gold]

I haven't really followed Jiricek's progress so maybe his development has just been way more underwhelming than I thought but that trade seems light. Perhaps we don't have the appropriate pieces not having a 1st this year, but that's a trade I would have been very ok with us doing. Getting good D is tough once they've developed so you either have to draft them yourself or made a shrewd trade when someone else is willing to trade one before he's developed.

 

[Fogelhund]

I haven't really followed Jiricek's progress so maybe his development has just been way more underwhelming than I thought but that trade seems light. Perhaps we don't have the appropriate pieces not having a 1st this year, but that's a trade I would have been very ok with us doing. Getting good D is tough once they've developed so you either have to draft them yourself or made a shrewd trade when someone else is willing to trade one before he's developed.

He might turn into a very good D, but we just couldn't afford to do it. Our priority isn't a prospect D man, who isn't ready for the NHL on a team like ours... heck, he's not ready on Columbus. There is nothing wrong with that of course, he's only 20, and it could be a few years away. We are a compete now team, and it looks like we will really need a 3C addition this year. We don't have a lot of assets we can afford to give up, and the few we have, should be spent on things we need NOW, not things that are nice to have.

 

[LeafEgo]

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Priority is leaning to offence but if we do add on defence I suspect the play is to set up a Benny/Cabe bottom pairing.

Rielly-Tanev
OEL-_____
Benny-McCabe

Proven playoff warriors that work and bring the pain. Get another one with size and I'd rate that d corps the strongest going into the tournament.

 

[TMLAM34]

My top two targets for the trade deadline would be Dickinson and Olivier.

Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Pacioretty - Tavares - Marner
McMann - Dickinson - Domi
Lorentz - Kampf - Olivier