Calder Watch : 2024-25 Season

[Whitesnake]

Literally the thing y'all are hung up on is me claiming Hutson had a better team around him.

I can go back and find posts. Would you like me to do that?

Here's the thing....welcome to giving trophies to people. Who win trophies...that do not have the luxury to be better surrouded? Does it make Warsofsky the worst coach of the league because his team is dead last? Do coaches are the reasons because their team is better than expected? Or do players make coaches better? I mean..how many times have we seen winners or nominees of the coaching award be fired 2 or 3 years after...are they suddenly bad? Put Makar right now in San Jose, does he automatically get the best d-man in the league? Who wins the MVP in playoffs? A great player? Sure...but isn't a MVP usually related to the WINNING team? I mean....I have no idea how it's a new concept that players that win trophies have the chance to be better surrounded.....Michkov would have way more points if he would have played with a better team. Celebrini would have had more points if he had played with somebody else. Dustin Wolf would have made the playoffs is his team knew how to score goals......

Trophy winners NEED the greatest team possible around them.

Now....it's pretty special to know that Montreal had clearly a better team than San Jose...in October, Habs that 7th worst month. In November, we had the 2nd worst month...San Jose was 11th. From December thought it started to go much better. But NOBODY in here had the Habs making the playoffs. And frankly, most people HABS FANS INCLUDED, were looking at who we would pick with another top 5 pick in January...So....did Hutson played with a much better team? Or did Hutson MADE the Habs a much better team?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Obviously. It’s tongue in cheek. He’s acting like 7.5 wins is some massive improvement worthy of notable praise. Imo, it’s a solid one showing progress. Since they squeaked into the playoffs in Game 82, I’m suggesting to give the Habs the cup now.

7.5 wins IS the difference between bottom 5 and a potential playoff team. You ignoring that and acting like that is not a massive achievement shows you either don't understand hockey standings or you don't want to admit the impact Lane Hutson had on the Habs over-achieving season.

Either way, Lane Hutson had a historic season and helped carry the Habs into the playoffs. These are pure facts my friend! And soon will win the Calder in a landslide, and deservedly so!

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

7.5 wins IS the difference between bottom 5 and a potential playoff team. You ignoring that and acting like that is not a massive achievement shows you either don't understand hockey standings or you don't want to admit the impact Lane Hutson had on the Habs over-achieving season.

Hell, 7.5 fewer wins and Montreal is a bottom FOUR team this year lmao. Not sure what the point is in saying all that

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Hell, 7.5 fewer wins and Montreal is a bottom FOUR team this year lmao. Not sure what the point is in saying all that

Exactly, he's just proving how massive the Habs improvement was. He's just supporting our position with facts. LOL

He's the guy that says the Panthers Cup win last year was only because they played better than everyone else in the playoffs. Like its some controversial and disruptive argument.

 

[JustAHabFan]

If anyone watched Habs game, it's clear as day Hutson and Suzuki were the players who helped the Habs made the playoff. The most notable game was the one against the Panthers recently. Habs was behind by 1 goals with 11 seconds left in the game. Hutson made a tremendous effort to keep the puck in the zone and feed the puck to Suzuki for the game tying goal. In OT, Suzuki scored with an assist from Hutson. From close to getting 0 point they get 2 points. This happened so many time this season and that's why they made the playoff. Habs fans were not wrong at all when they said Hutson made the Habs better and is one of the main contributor for getting the Habs to the playoff.

 

[StrawHatEklund]

Hell, 7.5 fewer wins and Montreal is a bottom FOUR team this year lmao. Not sure what the point is in saying all that

And yet they're still closer to a WC team than to the Sharks. Parity has created this balance in the league so if you aren't Sharks/Hawks bad, the difference between some bottom 5 teams and WC teams is less than 10 wins.

Edit: Hawks picked up some wins in the last 5-6 games to slightly pull away from Sharks this year but overall, they've been a similar level of bad the past 3 years.

 

[Jamaican Patty]

Lane Hutson ran away with the calder.

I said this before and I will say it again, he should choose who the second and third best rookie were this season. He has earned that honour.

 

[ViD]

Michkov wins the goal scoring race with the last game push

 

[koyvoo]

Michkov wins the goal scoring race with the last game push

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[StrawHatEklund]

Exactly, he's just proving how massive the Habs improvement was. He's just supporting our position with facts. LOL

He's the guy that says the Panthers Cup win last year was only because they played better than everyone else in the playoffs. Like its some controversial and disruptive argument.

I know you guys are having difficulty with reading comprehension but I'll say it again. Because of parity, the difference between some bottom 4 or 5 teams and WC teams is less than 10 wins and around 15 points. That applies to the Habs last year but it doesn't apply to horror bad teams like the Sharks/Hawks who are 30-40 ish points away from a WC spot the past 2 years. In other words, the Habs might have technically been a bottom 5 team last year but they were much closer in quality to a WC team than to the bottom 2. Is that so hard to comprehend?

 

[bitmeister]

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[bitmeister]

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[ole ole]

I know you guys are having difficulty with reading comprehension but I'll say it again. Because of parity, the difference between some bottom 4 or 5 teams and WC teams is less than 10 wins and around 15 points. That applies to the Habs last year but it doesn't apply to horror bad teams like the Sharks/Hawks who are 30-40 ish points away from a WC spot the past 2 years. In other words, the Habs might have technically been a bottom 5 team last year but they were much closer in quality to a WC team than to the bottom 2. Is that so hard to comprehend?

Would you have said that in Dec? I bet you were saying when the 4 nations were going on how great the Habs were.2nd from the bottom.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

You can tell that’s what people thought and still think.

Its very telling that a defenseman held the rookie scoring lead for pretty much the entirety of 2025 yet up to maybe 2 weeks ago people still wanted to believe so badly that he wasn’t the runaway favourite

Wonder why they would want to think that? Any idea? Lolol

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I know you guys are having difficulty with reading comprehension but I'll say it again. Because of parity, the difference between some bottom 4 or 5 teams and WC teams is less than 10 wins and around 15 points. That applies to the Habs last year but it doesn't apply to horror bad teams like the Sharks/Hawks who are 30-40 ish points away from a WC spot the past 2 years. In other words, the Habs might have technically been a bottom 5 team last year but they were much closer in quality to a WC team than to the bottom 2. Is that so hard to comprehend?

Once again you are proving how massively improved the Habs were. 7.5 additional games won (15 points). Huge improvement thanks to the likes of Hutson and Suzuki.

Thank you once again for highlighting how massively improved the Habs were this year. 5th worst team to a playoff contender.

Amazing!

 

[bitmeister]

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[StrawHatEklund]

Would you have said that in Dec? I bet you were saying when the 4 nations were going on how great the Habs were.2nd from the bottom.

I wasn't following the Habs in the standings closely throughout the entire season. Regardless, that's why you play all 82 games. Where a team is 2.5 months into the season and April can be very different.

Once again you are proving how massively improved the Habs were. 7.5 additional games won (15 points). Huge improvement thanks to the likes of Hutson and Suzuki.

Thank you once again for highlighting how massively improved the Habs were this year. 5th worst team to a playoff contender.

Amazing!

You represent your fanbase so well. Capture them perfectly.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Does Michkov overtake Celebrini now?

 

[koyvoo]

i apologize to all for my responses in this thread.

hutson is a glorious player. he is American after all. skates like the wind, i love seeing him out-deke the best of them, especially canucks who have been doing it their entire life.

but i merely jest in my delivery.

but the facts remain, while both players are near-generational in projection, celebrini is the superior player both past-present (and future) and had the mutually-agreed-upon better and greater season.

i'll see myself out. thank you for a time. this is gentlemen.

-vanishes supernaturally-

Am I to understand that you won’t be using this burner account any longer?

 

[StrawHatEklund]

Does Michkov overtake Celebrini now?

Why? Because he has 26 goals vs. 25? He has 1 less point in 10 more games played?

 

[koyvoo]

Does Michkov overtake Celebrini now?

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[thebestnic]

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[StrawHatEklund]

If you throw shades at a fanbase while making bad faith arguments, maybe be able to take a light joke... 15 points is a lot. Hutson will win the Calder. Celebrini will be the better player. It's not that complicated.

Maybe take a look at your fan base's behavior in this thread throughout the year? Haha bad faith. Sure bud. 15 points is notable and I never said otherwise. A lot. That is is debatable.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Hutson
Wolf
Michkov
Celebrini

I think Michkov and Celly tied. Dustin Wolf was more of a difference maker than Mich and Celly.

 

[Mattb124]

A bottom 5 team in the league is very bad. Awful. You are being unnecessarily obtuse by stating that the Habs playoff achievement was meh. Its insulting and smacks of jealousy..

Bad is relative, and last season MTL was not that bad, let alone awful. Just be honest about it. The Sharks had 47 points. MTL had 76 points. It seems like math is not your strong suit, but that is a 29 point difference. WSH made the play-offs with 91 points, only 15 points ahead of MTL. You can’t just look at stack ranking.