rumman
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“On principle” I’m too old for this shit…….
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WTFMAN99
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Quick Shifts: Is a Timothy Liljegren trade coming?
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1. Where do the Toronto Maple Leafs and Timothy Liljegren go from here?
Even with a third-pairing, right-shot defenceman more suited to the GM and coach's vision injured (off-season recruit Jani Hakanpää), Liljegren couldn't squeeze into the lineup on the club's first road trip.
The 2017 first-rounder has been leapfrogged not only by Conor Timmins (a decent puck-mover who can ill afford to keep averaging one bad penalty per game) but perhaps the bigger and cheaper Philippe Myers as well.
Yes, Brad Treliving is working the phones trying to move Liljegren and his $3-million cap hit, but if it were that easy to trade a third-pair D-man with a second-pair salary, it would've happened already.
There isn't urgency yet, but there could be soon.
Toronto is maxed out in NHL contracts and cap space, and eventually LTIR players like Hakanpää, Connor Dewar, and Calle Järnkrok will be healthy.
None of those players can be activated for nine more games, so Treliving has time.
Should another Leaf get injured in the meantime, the pressure to move Liljegren gets delayed. Maybe one of the league's other 31 teams falls victim to injuries and gets desperate for a righty (the L.A. Kings already lost a good one.) And, heck, there is still very much a chance the team needs him. He's a useful NHL-level talent, and at age 25, his best games should still rest ahead.
Ultimately, however, we don't see a long-term future here between an inconsistent — and, likely, frustrated, player — and a regime that didn't draft him.
Berube — who won his Cup with a bunch of big, nasty D-men — has made it clear that he prefers his blueliners huge. ("They get in the way," he chuckles.) Ditto for Treliving.
So, the Leafs are willing to play this out for at least a couple weeks, but at some point something must change.
Either Liljegren gets into the lineup and fights for more work, or he falls victim to a cap crunch and gets a fresh start in a different sweater.
See I would want at least a 2nd or 3rd+4th for him because I have a feeling he's going to do better elsewhere but we might get squeezed if we get healthier and guys start coming back.
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Yeah, I'm not sure what the principle is there, but whatever.
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Rare Jewel
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I don't really want to derail the thread, but that's how I feel about that player.
rumman
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So you don’t like players with differing views then yours?
Rare Jewel
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I'm fine with him expressing his POV, but I don't have to like it.
The problem is if he isn't playing and we're paying him 3M this year and next that seriously harms his value
I think he may do alright somewhere else but he isn't going to do it here and that 3M has value to us
I'm at the point where I'd happily let him go for nothing just to get the cap space and roster spot
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The nothing part would have been easier for me to sign off on in the summer when we could have solidified RD with Roy and Tanev.
We should maybe do pump and dump? Give him heavy offensive zone starts, PP1 etc, inflate his stats and then see if that gets us a better return.
That's what I thought we may do, inflate his stats and entice some sucker to take him off our hands but I don't think Berube is built that way
What a waste, when I think of the guys we could have gone after with that extra money I cringe
OEL + Liljegren is over 6M
Liljegren + Jarnkrok is over 5M
Liljegren + Kampf is 5.4M
That's middle 6C or middle pair RD money
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Saturday Headlines: Latest buzz around Rangers' Shesterkin
3:43 | October 12, 2024
On this edition of Saturday Headlines, Elliotte Friedman discusses the Rangers ongoing contract negotiations with Igor Shesterkin and the Maple Leafs plans for Timothy Liljegren and also provides injury updates for Tyler Myers and Macklin Celebrini.
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I am not sure why you have OEL on this list. We are lucky to have him and I have believe be is playing as well or better than Roy or Skjei are so far. The other three on your list save us $8M and two of them aren't even in the lineup right now. We could use that space to add to this the D. Can we get a top four D now and run a third pair of OEL and Hakanpaa? That seems interesting.
We may be OK at C with Matthews, Tavares, Domi, Holmberg, Lorentz, Dewar and Minten. We shouldn't forget about what he could bring if some ice time and opportunities open up.
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Feeling that Dubas might be the only GM who wants Liljegren for more than peanuts. I also think the leafs might value Pettersson.
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More of a TDL option, but I'm interested in Brock Nelson. One year left at 6 million, so with 50% retention we'll be able to fit him in
Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Nelson - Nylander
Robertson - Tavares - Marner
Dewar - Holmberg - Lorentz
Move off Kampf + Jarnkrok and you get 4.6 million
Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Nelson - Nylander
Robertson - Tavares - Marner
Dewar - Holmberg - Lorentz
Move off Kampf + Jarnkrok and you get 4.6 million
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I think we're going to need a 3C who's capable of playing a 2-way game, a lot of those guys you listed are limited either offensively or defensively
OEL is a good player but he's already in his early 30's, I'd rather spend more and get a younger player for the top 4
He's alright but he's a fringe top 6D imo, I think Liljegren is a better player
