GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

[Gabriel426]

I Keefe from day 1 gave the players to much freedom to be creative .
The problem is it created to many turnovers and they continued this into the playoffs .
Backhanded passes in the dzone players leaving the dzone early for a stretch passès ( to many ).
There was to many hope passes.
I think berube will remove those things from our game it will take time
I think what you see in the regular season is what you will see in the playoffs.
A tighter game.
I think we will play more as a 5 man unit.

Maurice changed the way Florida played wether it would have worked with Huberdeau we woll never learn.

If the goal for these players is to win a cup they will buy in .

Buying in is one thing, doing it consistently is another thing.

On top of players being able to play that way fully knowing their personal stats will most likely dropped due to playing a more responsible direct game

 

[TMLAM34]

I think you missed where I signed Lindholm????

Sorry at work, definitely missed it. At that point, Lamoureux would have to be involved along with Crouse. I think we need to be acquiring a center or RHD either ready or with the potential of playing in the top six or top four.

My dream trade would be Marner and Liljegren for Crouse + Geekie and Lamoureux but doubt that happens.

 

[Gabriel426]

The guy who probably benefit more of Berube style is Marner

I think in a more agressive style when he would be able to put even more pressure, he will just becoming more dangerous a little bit like a Mark Stone. Forcing opposite team to make quick, forcing turnover and get those team out of position and creating space for a marner to create his magic. His marner doesn't have space to make hisnplay, hes becoming easier to stop. Create space for marner and he will becoming just more dangerous

Mark Stone played a physical game and actually win board battles. MM is far from that.
MM is easy to stop bc he can't shoot, and not quick enough to move when being pressured.
Against weaker or tired teams in the regular season, he is fine. BUt in playoffs when other teams are prepare, it exposes his weaknesses as he can only play certain ways.
Quite sad that someone as talented as MM, still can't figure out his own weaknesses and over come them to be more effective.

 

[rumman]

When I went Crouse+McBain+1st... I also signed Lindholm as a UFA to solidify the C position. Have $12 mil left to sign two D, and a goalie.

This kind of trade instantly changes the team culture and Chief couldn’t complain about the players acquired…….

I hope Berube isn't as...well, frankly,,,,,as dumb as a lot of the posts I see.

Posters on here think Nylander will have a problem with Berube because they think Berube wants Nylander to play like a plough horse when he is a thoroughbred?

I swear critical thinking is gone forever.

There’s absolutely no reason Styles couldn’t up the physical side of his game, no reason at all……….

 

[Fogelhund]

Sorry at work, definitely missed it. At that point, Lamoureux would have to be involved along with Crouse. I think we need to be acquiring a center or RHD either ready or with the potential of playing in the top six or top four.

My dream trade would be Marner and Liljegren for Crouse + Geekie and Lamoureux but doubt that happens.

So you've got Matthews, Lindholm, Tavares, Domi, Holmberg and Crouse as C's, or potential C's... and you think we'd need to acquire a C?

We'd definitely need to acquire RHD.. but I've got $15 mil left, to sign three RD, plus a goalie, and there are quite a few in Free Agency... so no need to trade for any.

 

[Fogelhund]

This kind of trade instantly changes the team culture and Chief couldn’t complain about the players acquired…….

My lineup would have Knies, Crouse, McMann, McBain, Domi who can play a scrappy game from the forwards. That's without talking about 4th line signings.... You'd have one bigger forward, on each line, who can check, go into the corners etc... It's a physical lineup... and that's without even talking about the D. You've got a heavy checking lineup, that can wear down D, you've got guys who can go to the net, play in front of the net... and we've still got quite a bit of offensive talent..

 

[TMLAM34]

So you've got Matthews, Lindholm, Tavares, Domi, Holmberg and Crouse as C's, or potential C's... and you think we'd need to acquire a C?

We'd definitely need to acquire RHD.. but I've got $15 mil left, to sign three RD, plus a goalie, and there are quite a few in Free Agency... so no need to trade for any.

If you’re signing Lindholm, I would target Lamoureux along with Crouse in a Marner trade because you’ve addressed the second line center position with Lindholm.

If you aren’t signing Lindholm, I’m targeting Geekie along with Crouse to address the second line center position. I also think Geekie has a higher ceiling than Lamoureux.

In my scenario, I wouldn’t sign Lindholm but trade Marner and Liljegren for Crouse, Geekie and Lamoureux. Draft picks are nice but I’m kinda leaning towards players who can step in sooner than later.

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Domi
Crouse - Geekie - Nylander
Knies - Tavares - McMann

I’d be fine with that top nine.

Benoit - Lamoureux

I’d be fine with that third pair.

I’d then use the cap space toward a top four defenceman and/or a goalie.

 

[Fogelhund]

If you’re signing Lindholm, I would target Lamoureux along with Crouse in a Marner trade because you’ve addressed the second line center position with Lindholm.

If you aren’t signing Lindholm, I’m targeting Geekie along with Crouse to address the second line center position. I also think Geekie has a higher ceiling than Lamoureux.

In my scenario, I wouldn’t sign Lindholm but trade Marner and Liljegren for Crouse, Geekie and Lamoureux. Draft picks are nice but I’m kinda leaning towards players who can step in sooner than later.

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Domi
Crouse - Geekie - Nylander
Knies - Tavares - McMann

I’d be fine with that top nine.

Benoit - Lamoureux

I’d be fine with that third pair.

I’d then use the cap space toward a top four defenceman and/or a goalie.

Is Lamoureux the right guy though? He's had, what two shoulder surgeries in the last year? The guys available at the Utah pick, likely have first pairing potential...... With control for a decade.....

 

[supermann_98]

Quite sad that someone as talented as MM, still can't figure out his own weaknesses and over come them to be more effective.

Many god's probably feel like they have no weaknesses

 

[Gabriel426]

Many god's probably feel like they have no weaknesses

True.
We have MM who believes he doesn’t need to learn any more lessons while we also have JT who just wants to learn more lessons. We need to add those two together, mix them up and divide by two and we will get two great players, lol.

 

[rumman]

My lineup would have Knies, Crouse, McMann, McBain, Domi who can play a scrappy game from the forwards. That's without talking about 4th line signings.... You'd have one bigger forward, on each line, who can check, go into the corners etc... It's a physical lineup... and that's without even talking about the D. You've got a heavy checking lineup, that can wear down D, you've got guys who can go to the net, play in front of the net... and we've still got quite a bit of offensive talent..

Hope Tre reads this post…….

 

[TMLAM34]

Is Lamoureux the right guy though? He's had, what two shoulder surgeries in the last year? The guys available at the Utah pick, likely have first pairing potential...... With control for a decade.....

There’s definitely a risk to it, but I think his ceiling is a lot higher than McBain’s. Nothing against McBain either, would actually love to have him here in our bottom six don’t get me wrong.

 

[thusk]

Mark Stone played a physical game and actually win board battles. MM is far from that.
MM is easy to stop bc he can't shoot, and not quick enough to move when being pressured.
Against weaker or tired teams in the regular season, he is fine. BUt in playoffs when other teams are prepare, it exposes his weaknesses as he can only play certain ways.
Quite sad that someone as talented as MM, still can't figure out his own weaknesses and over come them to be more effective.

If mark stone making problem as comparaison, just take Patrice Bergeron

i'm not agree. go back and watch highlight of 2018 playoff when he was playing with plekanec/marleau.

When your opponent is in his box in good position and just waiting, it will be harder for EVERYONE ( not only Marner) to create anything offensively and i think is the #1 issue with leafs offensive under Keefe. Leafs was playing trap with minimum of risk to rry ti never be caught out of position. If you able to put good pressure and get your opponent out of position, you will be able to create yourself space in the offensive end and making play bit taking risk to goving up scoring chance. If you always playing safe mode, you will not give up a lot but you will not creating a lot of offensive. And that's why whatever who they bring in, leafs depht are never able to produce

Goal from leafs last 3 game.

-McCabe screen shot who find his way into traffic.
-Knies goal bouncing puck going right into knies stick.
-weak blue line shot deflected in his own goal
-Carlo just felt in the corner and leafs get a free 2v1.

they scored only 5 goal and 4 of 5 goal leafs scored was nothing else than pure luck. That's not resulting of 1 player but all the team.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

My lineup would have Knies, Crouse, McMann, McBain, Domi who can play a scrappy game from the forwards. That's without talking about 4th line signings.... You'd have one bigger forward, on each line, who can check, go into the corners etc... It's a physical lineup... and that's without even talking about the D. You've got a heavy checking lineup, that can wear down D, you've got guys who can go to the net, play in front of the net... and we've still got quite a bit of offensive talent..

Can we hire you to replace Shanahan?

 

[Fogelhund]

Can we hire you to replace Shanahan?

I will PM you my agents contact information. No low bidders.

 

[JKG33]

I can't see Utah being interested in Marner. They've got a desperate need for centers and D, and are pretty deep on the wing

 

[Fogelhund]

I can't see Utah being interested in Marner. They've got a desperate need for centers and D, and are pretty deep on the wing

They've got Cooley, Geekie, Bjugstad, McBain and Hayton.... Some young guys there with the first two, that might take time to adjust, if they end up as C's at all. Also using Kerfoot at C... which is... interesting. In my trade, I've sent them Kampf as well... which helps their C situation.

They've also got $43 million in cap space.

The premise here, is that Utah might be looking to make a splash, with a top NHL "star" as they move to a new location. This has been speculated by a number of news outlets and media.... That doesn't mean there is anything behind it, but there is logic for them to look for top end talent.

The Utah owner, Ryan Smith, has said he wants his team to be aggressive in the offseason.

 

[JKG33]

They've got Cooley, Geekie, Bjugstad, McBain and Hayton.... Some young guys there with the first two, that might take time to adjust, if they end up as C's at all. Also using Kerfoot at C... which is... interesting. In my trade, I've sent them Kampf as well... which helps their C situation.

They've also got $43 million in cap space.

The premise here, is that Utah might be looking to make a splash, with a top NHL "star" as they move to a new location. This has been speculated by a number of news outlets and media.... That doesn't mean there is anything behind it, but there is logic for them to look for top end talent.

The Utah owner, Ryan Smith, has said he wants his team to be aggressive in the offseason.

Oh I agree they'll be aggressive. I just don't see them spending assets on a winger when they have lots but lack a 1C and about 4 or 5 d-men.

 

[ACC1224]

Utah seems like an unlikely landing spot.

 

[ToneDog]

Oh I agree they'll be aggressive. I just don't see them spending assets on a winger when they have lots but lack a 1C and about 4 or 5 d-men.

I wonder what they'd be willing to give up for a unicorn goal scoring C and a super, elite RWer.

Now that would be one hell of a change to the core.

 

[mydnyte]

I'd have to think Carolina would be interested as Marner would fit their system wonderfully, and Necas can be a centerpoint coming back.
Nikishin cant come over until 2026, so, if they didnt want to include him, i wouldnt care

Morrow (RHD) would be my target along with Necas, though we may need to take Kuznetsov back as well to make the salaries work, than can deal him off too.

Maner for Necas, Morrow and if needed for cap, Kuznetsov (else a pick or prospect depending on how high they/we value Morrow)

Svechnikov - Aho - Marner would be an awesome 2-way line for the Canes

 

[TMLAM34]

I'd have to think Carolina would be interested as Marner would fit their system wonderfully, and Necas can be a centerpoint coming back.
Nikishin cant come over until 2026, so, if they didnt want to include him, i wouldnt care

Morrow (RHD) would be my target along with Necas, though we may need to take Kuznetsov back as well to make the salaries work, than can deal him off too.

Maner for Necas, Morrow and if needed for cap, Kuznetsov (else a pick or prospect depending on how high they/we value Morrow)

Svechnikov - Aho - Marner would be an awesome 2-way line for the Canes

Necas is a solid player but isn’t he what we’re trying to get away from? Soft one dimensional forward?

 

[Lightsol]

If you call MT quitting on his team

He DID quit on Calgary; if you're sitll doubting that, you really need to see the interview Matthew gave NHL.com where he talked about how he never gave 100% until he got to Florida.

 

[Kurtz]

I'd have to think Carolina would be interested as Marner would fit their system wonderfully, and Necas can be a centerpoint coming back.
Nikishin cant come over until 2026, so, if they didnt want to include him, i wouldnt care

Morrow (RHD) would be my target along with Necas, though we may need to take Kuznetsov back as well to make the salaries work, than can deal him off too.

Maner for Necas, Morrow and if needed for cap, Kuznetsov (else a pick or prospect depending on how high they/we value Morrow)

Svechnikov - Aho - Marner would be an awesome 2-way line for the Canes

There's a big Necas thread in the general board. The consensus is he's more of a wing than a C since he can't take draws and is poor defensively. Mostly used in offensive deployment. And he's looking for $8m on his next deal. $8m for a speedy 50 point winger who is a bit soft and weak defensively is not something I'd want as a centerpiece for Marner.

 

[VanW27]

I'd have to think Carolina would be interested as Marner would fit their system wonderfully, and Necas can be a centerpoint coming back.
Nikishin cant come over until 2026, so, if they didnt want to include him, i wouldnt care

Morrow (RHD) would be my target along with Necas, though we may need to take Kuznetsov back as well to make the salaries work, than can deal him off too.

Maner for Necas, Morrow and if needed for cap, Kuznetsov (else a pick or prospect depending on how high they/we value Morrow)

Svechnikov - Aho - Marner would be an awesome 2-way line for the Canes

Carolina is a budget conscious team, I'd think they'd have interest as a 1 year thing, but they aren't giving Marner 2+ million more than there currently highest paid players to be there 3rd best player.

Any return would need to reflect that.