GDT: Trades & Free Agency -- Off-season edition

[Punch Drunk Loov]

No more Toronto-tax overpayments

 

[TheGreenTBer]

If Domi was smart, he should ask for a 1 year deal. Play with Matthews, push his numbers up.

Then look to sign longer term.

Rarely are incoming UFA's looking for 1-year deals. It's too risky. Look what happened to Klingberg with the Stars; turned down a long-term deal (that would have been a catastrophic overpayment and led to a buyout, but still) and his career fell off a cliff. Cost him millions.

 

[hamzarocks]

Domi

3.5M x 6
4M x 5
4.5M x 4

Those are the three offers I would give him

Bertuzzi

4M x 4 is the offer I would give him

 

[ToneDog]

Domi

3.5M x 6
4M x 5
4.5M x 4

Those are the three offers I would give him

Bertuzzi

4M x 4 is the offer I would give him

Domi won't get more that Bert and Bert will easily get more than 4 with the cap rising. Willie got a 4.5m raise alone. What an overpay IMO. Yeah but some will argue, it is ok to overpay the stars by a million or two. Really? The guys who have won 1 round in 9 attempts. Only in Toronto.

 

[LeafSteel]

Would be nice to fast forward to the Draft and then the open of UFA’s.

All the projection and spitballing by those posing to be in the know, along with random twitter-twit posers just bring too much noise.

In the end, they are all a bunch of online nobodies.

Let me know when Bobby Mac says something….

Thank goodness summer brings its own distractions.

Won’t pay attention until those dates come and go and see where we land.

Cheers.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

I want Marner traded as much as everybody else, but I can’t see us getting anywhere close to an even trade in terms of the talent coming back. I would be very pleased if it was just draft picks and cap space that we get back. The biggest hurdle in my mind is finding a team who will be willing to sign him for the amount he’ll be looking for on his next contract. Does anyone know how much the top wingers are making?

Lose the battle win the war. Goal is to win a cup. Even if we lose out on some value I could care less. There are plenty of teams interested. If we can strike a deal great but it may not happen either ofc. And top wingers are making 10 mil plus easy.

 

[namttebih]

I understand that it's a small sample size and he's not used to the big ice, but Binnington's performance hasn't confidence inspiring. I wasn't hot on him before this tournament - less so now.

 

[ULF_55]

Leafs need someone who can adjust, fit in, within a month, hopefully by the end of October plays like a top 6 forward.

If a prospect came up and produced next to nothing for 2.5 months he'd be tarred, feathered and sent back to the minors, with a big fat BUST label applied.

If there was a CR on players ... Which Car Brands Make the Best Vehicles? - Consumer Reports

Want a Subaru not a Jeep.
A Subaru is in the budget.
If the Subaru turns into a BMW ... that would be okay, except the cost to service the player might be out of Cap restraints.

 

[JKG33]

I understand that it's a small sample size and he's not used to the big ice, but Binnington's performance hasn't confidence inspiring. I wasn't hot on him before this tournament - less so now.

Do we really care about a players performance in the loser tournament on a different continent?

Binnington has a long enough resume of dominant playoff performances to outweigh some dumb tournament

 

[stickty111]

I understand that it's a small sample size and he's not used to the big ice, but Binnington's performance hasn't confidence inspiring. I wasn't hot on him before this tournament - less so now.

He's also a bit of a sideshow. No thanks.

 

[Magic Man]

4M per for 5 years for Bertuzzi and Domi. They are worth about the same.

 

[Americanadian]

Do we really care about a players performance in the loser tournament on a different continent?

Binnington has a long enough resume of dominant playoff performances to outweigh some dumb tournament

I've been advocating for Binnington on this board but I'm not sure we can say he has a long resume of strong playoff performances. He has his cup year where he was very good but then back to back years where he was very bad then one year where he redeemed himself.

 

[rumman]

Domi

3.5M x 6
4M x 5
4.5M x 4

Those are the three offers I would give him

Bertuzzi

4M x 4 is the offer I would give him

These are realistic numbers, definitely no more money for these two……..

Domi won't get more that Bert and Bert will easily get more than 4 with the cap rising. Willie got a 4.5m raise alone. What an overpay IMO. Yeah but some will argue, it is ok to overpay the stars by a million or two. Really? The guys who have won 1 round in 9 attempts. Only in Toronto.

Those numbers are spot on, regardless of the stupid contract Styles got, hope he’s the next core piece to go after Marner and JT……….

Lose the battle win the war. Goal is to win a cup. Even if we lose out on some value I could care less. There are plenty of teams interested. If we can strike a deal great but it may not happen either ofc. And top wingers are making 10 mil plus easy.

Addition by subtraction, it’s a real thing………

 

[Duffman955]

I'd like to add Trenin to the bottom 6

Can play W and C
Kills penalties
Tough as f***

Tre had interest in him at the deadline and apparently almost got him.

 

[Jozay]

Most I'd go for Domi is 3.5 x 3.

 

[TMLAM34]

I'd like to add Trenin to the bottom 6

Can play W and C
Kills penalties
Tough as f***

Tre had interest in him at the deadline and apparently almost got him.

Probably a UFA that will get overpaid but I like him as well. I’d take him over Kampf.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Lose the battle win the war. Goal is to win a cup. Even if we lose out on some value I could care less. There are plenty of teams interested. If we can strike a deal great but it may not happen either ofc. And top wingers are making 10 mil plus easy.

$10 million, in my mind, would still be a slight overpayment for Marner.

 

[rumman]

Most I'd go for Domi is 3.5 x 3.

I’d go a little higher, but this is the ballpark of what he’s worth to the Leafs imo, the gravy train hopefully has left the station once and for all………

 

[Burnie97]

LeBrun and Alter.

I think Alter is pretty credible. Don't really care for LeBrun but he's usually pretty accurate.

Still a bit surprised Domi thinks he's that much. I hope he takes a home discount.

I'm so tired of every guy coming to Toronto and asking for the moon. They have to stop this shit (the management).

I can't blame the players in a way because when you sign 4 guys at the top like that then the other guys are like what about me.

I'm hoping that what Tre and Berube are saying is a fact. That they want everyone on the team to feel important.

You can't have the country club mentality. That's the same thing that killed the Leafs after their great runs in the early 2000s.

It's really why Marner has to be considered a real possibility to be traded.

 

[rumman]

$10 million, in my mind, would still be a slight overpayment for Marner.

Wouldn’t want back, even for 6-7 mil, you can’t change the culture by keeping the players who are the root of the problem, hopefully getting rid of one will be enough for the other diva’s to straighten up and fly right………

 

[notdoneyet]

Sure, paying him at least $12 million, having great regular seasons, putting up some points in the playoffs but not being able to be “the guy” to make the difference in crucial situations because he avoids contact at all costs, never holding himself accountable? No thanks!

I thought you were talking about marner but what your saying is just as much applied to Matthews

 

[rumman]

I thought you were talking about marner but what your saying is just as much applied to Matthews

Styles too, therein lies the problem………

 

[BertCorbeau]

Not sue I’d want to resign Bert.. lots of wingers close to being in the lineup.

Save the cap for necessary investment on D and in net.

Need more construct from the back end out

 

[ULF_55]

Not sure I’d want to re-sign Bert.. lots of wingers close to being in the lineup.

Save the cap for necessary investment on D and in net.

Need more construct from the back end out

I wouldn't give either (Domi/Bertuzzi) more than Kerfoot money.

 

[the real Fox mulder]

Marner for Shea Theodore + rights of Chandler Stephenson is the type of deal we should be looking at.