Greatzsky 99
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Nice to see good numbers, Swe - Fin probably had slightly over 3 mil counting Swe and Fin.
NHL/hockey TV ratings 2024-25
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Nice to see good numbers, Swe - Fin probably had slightly over 3 mil counting Swe and Fin.
Greatzsky 99
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Finnish numbers
Per vecka: TV-programtopplistor per kanal
Nelonen, vecka 7/2025
Målgrupp: 3-99 år
Befolkning: 5 434 000
Per vecka: TV-programtopplistor per kanal
Nelonen, vecka 7/2025
Målgrupp: 3-99 år
Befolkning: 5 434 000
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TheOrganist
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I can't think of a more unexpected success story for the NHL. Kudos to the league, players...everyone.
Golden_Jet
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The regular season, has nothing to do with how this tournament has turned out.
You might be right. My question how do we know it won't help the rest of the regular season? Even if it a small amount of viewers like 20-30 thousand a game. There has never been an NHL event of this magnitude and national attention in the middle of the season so we are in uncharted territory.
There's going to be a by-default bump anyway because of the OOH change. Which we've already seen, though some of it is scheduling (e.g. Bruins games) but the four post-OOH change NHL games included the most-viewed NHL game of the season, most-viewed on ABC and excluding-WC most-viewed game on TNT this season. The YoY comparisons for three of the four were up and up 30%, 32% & 41% while the only game down (20%) was the inexplicable CTZ team (CHI) in the late game v. a Canadian team (EDM) which by just by the scheduling and time zone involved will give you a poor #.
OOH measurement increase also helps all Four Nations games, obviously.
Also have the post-football season bump, which is more theoretical since it doesn't always happen.
After those two things then you would get to a hypothetical "Four Nations" bump, which 20-30k a game isn't enough for credit because OOH (& post-football) takes care of that, and more. Would have to be a significant increase in #'s to start giving 4-Nations "credit."
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1.30M for Finland-Sweden is impressive to go along with the USA-Canada #.
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-Four Nations on TNT Monday-
Canada-Finland: 699k (TNT/truTV)
USA-Sweden: 1.8M (TNT/truTV)
Canada-Finland: 699k (TNT/truTV)
USA-Sweden: 1.8M (TNT/truTV)
Guarantees 6 of 7 total Four Nations games will be 1.0M+ in the U.S..
That's very good.
That's very good.
Not at all, at least in my opinion. At least in the regular season. Not realistic. In fact, the WNBA likely gets and has gotten a much bigger boost, at least in America, from Caitlin Clark than the NHL can expect long-term from the 4 Nations Face-off...unfortunately.
Many/most regular-season games are boring save for some exciting spots, and too many of 'em. Plus they won't get any sustained hype from American media unlike now with tariffs, threats of U.S. taking over Canada, booing of anthems...
Agreed. But I do think this could potentially open more viewership for the playoffs.
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I think it will beat Saturday easily. A lot of build up on social media. ESPN has rolled out the red carpet with the game in focus on all of their daily shows. It is cable but I am guessing 7 million in US or more and 10 million tuning in for the final 15 minutes. Canada will be off the charts for ratings. I really am not sure but a best guess. Any other predictions from anyone?
Some things to consider.
1. OOH viewing. Was accounting for about 13% of sports viewership on the average game. Bigger event (e.g. NFL single-window) would increase to 30-40% of the viewership. That means before OOH that % wouldn't be there, so it's an increase of those #'s. That also is from when OOH coverage was 60-66%. We're in Week 3 of it being 100%. So tonight is a big event, it's not the 10s of millions that watched Thanksgiving NFL games for example but you can estimate 20% OOH increase to the number. So if you were thinking tonight would do 5.0M, add another mil to it for 6.0M.
Concerns about ABC v. ESPN, Remember that a bar, airport, gym, restaurant, hotel, etc. generally has to turn the channel to ABC when a sporting event is actually on. In nearly all cases ESPN is a default TV already on no matter what sport is actually on ESPN.
2. Promotion. Being promoted much more heavily than Saturday was and promoted via non-traditional outlets -- particularly politically and 'news' media, etc.. Plus, ESPN alone, have gone all-in on promoting the game. More this week than they do for a typical SCF.
3. Competition. Saturday night had NBA All-Star Saturday night (and a barely worth mentioning throwaway UFC event.)
The TNT NBA DH tonight will come nowhere near the All-Star Saturday night #'s so less national competition. Though there's another 7 regional NBA games on that'll overlap with USA-Canada. But I'd call that roughly a wash.
I'll predict 7.16M for USA-Canada
^ to add to that, what people are thinking.
Poll of people who follow sports media/including sports media have 70% thinking between 4-8M with 1% more thinking between 4-6M over 6-8M, as of this post.
My informal poll -of people who follow NHL ratings- has 50% thinking between 6.0-6.9M with a range of 4.5-to-10.0M.
Breeze of Sports Media Watch predicted 6.92M.
Lerner formally of SMW predicted 5.32M.
Poll of people who follow sports media/including sports media have 70% thinking between 4-8M with 1% more thinking between 4-6M over 6-8M, as of this post.
My informal poll -of people who follow NHL ratings- has 50% thinking between 6.0-6.9M with a range of 4.5-to-10.0M.
Breeze of Sports Media Watch predicted 6.92M.
Lerner formally of SMW predicted 5.32M.
I'd be stunned if this game gets less than 8M on ESPN. Biggest hockey game in years.
A ton of people who aren't hockey fans or even casual hockey fans are hyped about the game. You even had Trump call the players, so if the President has his mind around it, then a lot of other people will too. I do think it beats Saturday, but not sure by how much due to it being on cable and not free telly.
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NHL on ABC:
January:
Rangers-Capitals: 1.1M
Rangers-Blackhawks: 454k
Bruins - Panthers 1,05M
February:
Blackhawks-Panthers: 723k
Rangers-Bruins: 1.1M
Lightning-Red Wings: 934k
Golden Knights-Bruins: 1.27M
Cable:
October:
Blues-Kraken: 348k (ESPN)
Bruins-Panthers: 790k (ESPN, non-exclusive)
Blackhawks-Utah: 522k (ESPN)
Rangers-Penguins: 467k (TNT+truTV)
Avalanche-Golden Knights 315k (TNT+truTV)
Wild-Blues: 417k (ESPN)
Flyers-Oilers: 333k (ESPN)
Sabres-Penguins: 512k (TNT+truTV)
Bruins-Avalanche: 340k (TNT+truTV)
Capitals-Flyers: 477k (ESPN)
Avalanche-Kraken: 422k (ESPN)
Kings-Golden Knights: 245k (ESPN)
Flyers-Capitals: 410k (TNT+truTV)
Rangers-Capitals: 412k (ESPN)
Kings-Sharks: 186k (ESPN)
Golden Knights-Kings: 109k (TNT+truTV)
November:
Red Wings-Blackhawks: 411k (TNT+truTV)
Red Wings-Penguins: 354k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Kings-Avalanche 231k (TNT+truTV)
Hurricanes-Flyers: 237k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Predators-Kraken: 155k (TNT+truTV)
Capitals-Lightning: 268k (TNT)
Golden Knights-Avalanche: 207k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Penguins-Bruins: 483k (TNT+truTV)
Avalanche-Stars: 177k (TNT+truTV)
December:
Bruins-Blackhawks: 487k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Stars-Kings: 232k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Rangers-Sabres 478k (TNT+truTV)
Flyers-Red Wings 418k (TNT+truTV)
Panthers-Wild 161k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Blackhawks-Sabres: 245k (ESPN2)
Avalanche-Utah: 258k (ESPN2)
Stars-Blackhawks: 217k (ESPN)
Blues-Blackhawks: 920k (Winter Classic, TNT+truTV)
January:
Avalanche-Blackhawks 283k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Panthers - Utah 183k (TNT)
Red Wings-Panthers: 507k (ESPN)
Oilers-Avalanche 389k (ESPN)
Hurricanes-Sabres: 259k (TNT+truTV)
Oilers-Wild: 324k (TNT+truTV)
Panthers-Kings: 151k (TNT+truTV)
Golden Knights-Stars: 424k (ESPN)
Flyers-Devils: 253k (TNT+truTV)
Penguins-Utah: 138k (TNT+truTV, non-exclusive)
February:
Sharks-Kraken: 175k (ESPN)
Bruins-Rangers: 537k (TNT+truTV)
Oilers-Blackhawks: 217k (TNT+truTV)
NHL on ABC:
January:
Rangers-Capitals: 1.1M
Rangers-Blackhawks: 454k
Bruins - Panthers 1,05M
February:
Blackhawks-Panthers: 723k
Rangers-Bruins: 1.1M
Lightning-Red Wings: 934k
Golden Knights-Bruins: 1.27M
Cable:
October:
Blues-Kraken: 348k (ESPN)
Bruins-Panthers: 790k (ESPN, non-exclusive)
Blackhawks-Utah: 522k (ESPN)
Rangers-Penguins: 467k (TNT+truTV)
Avalanche-Golden Knights 315k (TNT+truTV)
Wild-Blues: 417k (ESPN)
Flyers-Oilers: 333k (ESPN)
Sabres-Penguins: 512k (TNT+truTV)
Bruins-Avalanche: 340k (TNT+truTV)
Capitals-Flyers: 477k (ESPN)
Avalanche-Kraken: 422k (ESPN)
Kings-Golden Knights: 245k (ESPN)
Flyers-Capitals: 410k (TNT+truTV)
Rangers-Capitals: 412k (ESPN)
Kings-Sharks: 186k (ESPN)
Golden Knights-Kings: 109k (TNT+truTV)
November:
Red Wings-Blackhawks: 411k (TNT+truTV)
Red Wings-Penguins: 354k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Kings-Avalanche 231k (TNT+truTV)
Hurricanes-Flyers: 237k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Predators-Kraken: 155k (TNT+truTV)
Capitals-Lightning: 268k (TNT)
Golden Knights-Avalanche: 207k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Penguins-Bruins: 483k (TNT+truTV)
Avalanche-Stars: 177k (TNT+truTV)
December:
Bruins-Blackhawks: 487k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Stars-Kings: 232k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Rangers-Sabres 478k (TNT+truTV)
Flyers-Red Wings 418k (TNT+truTV)
Panthers-Wild 161k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Blackhawks-Sabres: 245k (ESPN2)
Avalanche-Utah: 258k (ESPN2)
Stars-Blackhawks: 217k (ESPN)
Blues-Blackhawks: 920k (Winter Classic, TNT+truTV)
January:
Avalanche-Blackhawks 283k (TNT, non-exclusive)
Panthers - Utah 183k (TNT)
Red Wings-Panthers: 507k (ESPN)
Oilers-Avalanche 389k (ESPN)
Hurricanes-Sabres: 259k (TNT+truTV)
Oilers-Wild: 324k (TNT+truTV)
Panthers-Kings: 151k (TNT+truTV)
Golden Knights-Stars: 424k (ESPN)
Flyers-Devils: 253k (TNT+truTV)
Penguins-Utah: 138k (TNT+truTV, non-exclusive)
February:
Sharks-Kraken: 175k (ESPN)
Bruins-Rangers: 537k (TNT+truTV)
Oilers-Blackhawks: 217k (TNT+truTV)
Any chance you will include the 4 Nation Tournament numbers with regular season games ratings? It is NHL players and a NHL created event. Not sure you should mix the two but wanted to get your thoughts? If it was added it would probably put the NHL ahead of last year.
