ACC1224
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Exactly ease the kid along you got him facing the toughest competition let him play on the second line with marner and jt I would love to see that line for a few games opens knies up for more shots as marners favourite person to pass to won’t be on the line
Bolded is exactly my lines as well.
Matthew and Marner are not “on”, and you are putting a rookie out to face top competition, surrounded by line mates that are not currently playing to their capabilities? That is not setting Knies up for any kind of success or confidence building.
His game is better suited for Tavares anyways.
If we had a coach who could see when things don’t work and make adjustments, as well as put our developing players into situations to succeed, this would have been long ago.
……. But we have Keefe.
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ULF_55
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Bolded is exactly my lines as well.
Matthew and Marner are not “on”, and you are putting a rookie out to face top competition, surrounded by line mates that are not currently playing to their capabilities? That is not setting Knies up for any kind of success or confidence building.
His game is better suited for Tavares anyways.
If we had a coach who could see when things don’t work and make adjustments, as well as put our developing players into situations to succeed, this would have been long ago.
……. But we have Keefe.
He's playing hurt though.
C - Sturm, Nico (2yr/2.0m)
G - Blackwood, Mackenzie (2yr/2.35m)
LD - Ferraro, Mario (3yr/3.25m)
T: 7,600,000
for
RW - Reaves, Ryan (3yr/1.35m)
LD - McCabe, Jake (2yr/2.0m)
G - Samsonov, Ilya (1yr/3.55m)
Picks/Prospects
T: 6,900,000
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Knies Matthews Marner
Bertuzzi Tavares Nylander
Robertson Domi Jarnkrok
Kämpf Sturm Gregor
McMann/Steeves
Rielly Brodie
Ferraro Liljegren
Lagesson Timmons
Gio Benoit
Blackwood
Woll
G - Blackwood, Mackenzie (2yr/2.35m)
LD - Ferraro, Mario (3yr/3.25m)
T: 7,600,000
for
RW - Reaves, Ryan (3yr/1.35m)
LD - McCabe, Jake (2yr/2.0m)
G - Samsonov, Ilya (1yr/3.55m)
Picks/Prospects
T: 6,900,000
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Knies Matthews Marner
Bertuzzi Tavares Nylander
Robertson Domi Jarnkrok
Kämpf Sturm Gregor
McMann/Steeves
Rielly Brodie
Ferraro Liljegren
Lagesson Timmons
Gio Benoit
Blackwood
Woll
All though you solved goalie and second lhd problem…..maybe…. We still aren’t tougher on the baccend brodies gotta go or a soft player has to be taken out n replaced by a tough one not one for one tough swap n one of that significance
Magic Man
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Samsonov had a great season last year with Toronto. He was 6th in the league in save percentage and he helped win a playoff round. Blackwood has been an .890 goalie for 3 years now. Samsonov is the better goalie and the Leafs aren't married to him if his poor play continues.
Ferraro for McCabe, I'd pass there as well. McCabe is the more physical of the two and he comes with another short term, low money contract that they paid handsomely for. Ferraro is a good target in a separate move.
Sturm with Kampf and Holmberg in house and Domi excelling in the 3 hole seems a little redundant. Losing Reaves is a win, but adding Sturm on a contract you can't bury as well isn't.
Going off your proposal I'd tweak it to look like this.
Ryan Reaves (1.35M per for 3 years) + 2024 1st rd. pick (Top-10 Protection) for Mario Ferraro (3.25M per for 3 years)
Rielly - McCabe
Ferraro - Brodie
Giordano - Liljegren
ULF_55
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rumman
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kb
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Fix the D and get it healthy, then assess the G at that point.
Otherwise you are just being reactionary to every butterfly that passes by.
Otherwise you are just being reactionary to every butterfly that passes by.
I'd try to find a way. McCabe for salary, 1st rounder ++. With Klingberg on IR maybe that works or gets you close cap wise. Think he'd be a very strong add to the top 2/4 if he's for sale. He'd be a more prime style Brodie.
TheMadHatTrick
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Marner needs a wake up call,
Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Bertuzzi - Tavares - Janrkrok
Robertson - Domi - Marner
Fogelhund
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Is it time for a coaching change? I don’t blame Keefe for the state of the teams play, but at the same time, he isn’t getting a consistently good effort, or good play from these guys. Changing the coach is the easiest move, and perhaps a new voice can fix some of the issues the team has with consistent effort and defensive play.
I think a coaching change is needed but this would be the second coach the “core” has basically tuned out or not given full effort constantly. When does it fall on the players?
Fogelhund
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IMO, it already falls on the players. But a new coach is an easier move than shipping out Marner/Nylander and making the team suddenly better. We are kind of getting into Hail Mary territory for this core.
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56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
If they have tuned him out, I am surprised it took this long. Sorry Kyle, we won't be seeing a Keefe statue in 10 years.
Fogelhund
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I mean, we really only have two options here, either the coach has been tuned out, or the core doesn’t have the heart to be winners.
Can’t transplant a heart, can change a coach. So you change a coach, and if that doesn’t work, it’s time for open heart surgery on this roster.
Can’t transplant a heart, can change a coach. So you change a coach, and if that doesn’t work, it’s time for open heart surgery on this roster.
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Prior to this season, I would've blamed Keefe but seeing the effort this core puts in game in and game out, you can't blame Keefe anymore, it's on our core. They lack the effort and heart to compete every shift, the amount of coasting that goes on from our players is embarrassing considering the amount they get paid. I really hope Treliving is taking a close look at everything. The effort on the defensive side of the game is atrocious, players you used to rely on are now a major problems (Brodie). I'm not saying a full blown rebuild but we definitely need to retool this team from top to bottom.
rumman
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That surgery is for years too late, this group will never win anything. You can change coaches, you can change the fringe players all you like, but this core is rotten. I hope they fail big time this season and ask the elites who’s in for the rebuild? That might make it possible to move them.…….
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Don't waste any more assets. There is no player or players out there that will do the important thing, Fix The Culture! This has always been the problem since the Burns and Quinn teams. Coddled softies can not win and will not win. They don't even provide entertainment any more. Easily the the easiest team to play against and definitely the most unlikable. I don't care watching less and less games the last 5 years. Players don't care has rubbed off on me......I don't care either 
hamzarocks
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Oilers apparently willing to sell anyone but 97, 29 and 2024 1st round pick
What would people pay for the below:
1. RNH
2. Zack Hyman
3. Evander Kane
4. Evan Bouchard.
I'd like to add Bouchard to the team. Id offer our 2024 1st + Roni Hirvonen + Reeves
Get bouchard to play second pairing with Brodie (gives him a good defensive partner)
Then make a deal for Connor Murphy to play with Rielly.
Not having a 2024 1st would sting for Murphy but maybe klingberg + Minten + 2nd is enough for Murphy 50% retained
Rielly - Murphy
Bouchard - Brodie
McCabe - Lilijgren
Gio
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What would people pay for the below:
1. RNH
2. Zack Hyman
3. Evander Kane
4. Evan Bouchard.
I'd like to add Bouchard to the team. Id offer our 2024 1st + Roni Hirvonen + Reeves
Get bouchard to play second pairing with Brodie (gives him a good defensive partner)
Then make a deal for Connor Murphy to play with Rielly.
Not having a 2024 1st would sting for Murphy but maybe klingberg + Minten + 2nd is enough for Murphy 50% retained
Rielly - Murphy
Bouchard - Brodie
McCabe - Lilijgren
Gio
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It's on the core. And I like these guys a lot. Some of the most talented players this franchise has ever had. Might be the most talented players we ever see. Sometimes, I do think as a fanbase we take that for granted, especially after wanting such talent for so long. But with no winning from this talent, it only makes sense.
Last year's roster after the deadline was more than good enough to make a lot of noise in the playoffs. I know one round is not enough, but had they shown up against Florida and just happened to drop a hard-fought 7-game series, I would have been convinced we were getting somewhere. The Tampa series wasn't perfect, but they found a way to win when things got tough and the big guys all contributed in some form. But then it did not continue in the next round. The Florida series was not on the coach nor the GM. It was on the players. They need to figure it out. They have the talent to do so, just bring the work now.
Last year's roster after the deadline was more than good enough to make a lot of noise in the playoffs. I know one round is not enough, but had they shown up against Florida and just happened to drop a hard-fought 7-game series, I would have been convinced we were getting somewhere. The Tampa series wasn't perfect, but they found a way to win when things got tough and the big guys all contributed in some form. But then it did not continue in the next round. The Florida series was not on the coach nor the GM. It was on the players. They need to figure it out. They have the talent to do so, just bring the work now.
rumman
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Kane could help, and he’d fit in well with the team’s dysfunctional make up……..
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