Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[kb]

Because players don't get pay cuts? He hasn't gotten better in fact may have gotten worst.

How is a 2 x 1st team all-star RW deserving of a pay cut? Just to get the same % on an $87.5 million cap, Marner would get $11.7.

I guess the list will grow again, as the lies/untruths and general lack of knowledge here are staggering and people have zero basis in reality anymore.

That's why so many good posters have bailed and moved from this site.

 

[hamzarocks]

He likely will but it probably won't be anywhere near as much as some think. Matthews for example only increased his aav by 1.6 mil. Probably somewhere in the 500k-1.5 mil range is what I'd expect in terms of the aav increase. No idea what the term will be

He will probably want 12M x 4 years and then try for a 3rd 10M+ deal after like Matthews

Works out the basically the same though if he goes 8 years 11.5M =92M

Vs 12M x 4 and then 10.5M x 4 = 90M

So we might get 8 years from him at 11.5ish

 

[kb]

He will probably want 12M x 4 years and then try for a 3rd 10M+ deal after like Matthews

Works out the basically the same though if he goes 8 years 11.5M =92M

Vs 12M x 4 and then 10.5M x 4 = 90M

So we might get 8 years from him at 11.5ish

That's a pay cut - 13.38% of the $87.5 cap (his current hit percentage) works out to $11.7 million and there will be another cap raise too, before he signs.

It's going to be more in the $12 million range I suspect.

 

[LeafParade]

87.5 M is the projected cap for the beginning of the 2024-2025 season. Unless there is a more recent update I missed.

Marner's deal expires in the summer of 2025.
The cap for the beginning of the 2025-2026 season could easily be 89 M or higher.

 

[Stephen]

I wonder if we can get Hyman back at this rate?

 

[Stephen]

He will probably want 12M x 4 years and then try for a 3rd 10M+ deal after like Matthews

Works out the basically the same though if he goes 8 years 11.5M =92M

Vs 12M x 4 and then 10.5M x 4 = 90M

So we might get 8 years from him at 11.5ish

Long ways away, but one thing worth noting about Marner's UFA summer is he's potentially hitting the market along with Mikko Rantanen and Leon Draisaitl at the top end of the forward market, guys in their prime from the same age group.

If the Leafs have Matthews and Nylander locked in, maybe Marner won't be bargaining from a position of strength. Who knows.

 

[Amadeus]

I wonder if we can get Hyman back at this rate?

That contract wont age well. Pass!

 

[LeafChief]

Isn't this hread supposed to be for trades⁶

Brother, this thread is for bitchin'.

 

[horner]

Brother, this thread is for bitchin'.

Ok brother

 

[hamzarocks]

That's a pay cut - 13.38% of the $87.5 cap (his current hit percentage) works out to $11.7 million and there will be another cap raise too, before he signs.

It's going to be more in the $12 million range I suspect.

Nylander should be an internal comp as well

If nylander has a better year by a fair bot then him this year and comes in at 10M then Marner should be fine woth 11.5M

Its only 500K but it would be an appreciated gesture to give it back to the team

 

[arso40]

Nylander should be an internal comp as well

If nylander has a better year by a fair bot then him this year and comes in at 10M then Marner should be fine woth 11.5M

Its only 500K but it would be an appreciated gesture to give it back to the team

Huh? He’s not taking 10 I mean I hope he does but if I was him I wouldn’t

 

[Jacquestrapless]

If the Preds offered Luke Schenn for a third, would you do it?

 

[Dragao6]

How is a 2 x 1st team all-star RW deserving of a pay cut? Just to get the same % on an $87.5 million cap, Marner would get $11.7.

I guess the list will grow again, as the lies/untruths and general lack of knowledge here are staggering and people have zero basis in reality anymore.

That's why so many good posters have bailed and moved from this site.

Because his initial contract was an overpayment

 

[Dragao6]

Huh? He’s not taking 10 I mean I hope he does but if I was him I wouldn’t

It’s been 17 games man
We leafs fans get so excitted easily about regular season and early success

His rate will settle, be patient
If it doesn’t he has to take matthew’s money and we can’t afford that
Playoffs will bring everyone back to earth

 

[arso40]

I really think peeke could be a good project that wouldn’t cost us much seems like it’s very crowded there and they wanna move out the right shots he would be my picc and he’s young enough to really develope into something with work and time seems like a good kid

 

[Gabriel426]

I mean that the media is pumping up Nylanders contract but they don’t care about other teams ufa players off to hot starts (Reinhart for example).

If Reinhart somehow finishes with over 100 points I doubt people will be talking about him getting an absurd contract.

I think Petey is the guy the medias are not even reporting right now.
He is a RFa and literally said in the summer, he will only resign if the team is heading into the right direction.
Nucks hot start, crickets. Petey hot start, crickets again.

 

[jiggy35]

Just saying if Klingberg is in fact stuck on Robidas island, conveniently there’s cap space to sign kane

Knies - Matthews - Marner
Bertuzzi - Tavares - Nylander
Robertson - Domi - Kane
Gregor/McMann - Kampf - Jarnkrok

3 legit scoring threats and an actual defensive 4th line.

Rielly - Brodie
McCabe - Liljegren
Gio - Timmins
Lagesson

Sammy/Woll

But is that D good enough.

 

[LeafSteel]

If the Preds offered Luke Schenn for a third, would you do it?

?

We could have had him for free as a UFA and didn’t want to give him the salary and term that he got.

Why would we do it now, adding a pick to boot?

 

[kb]

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We could have had him for free as a UFA and didn’t want to give him the salary and term that he got.

Why would we do it now, adding a pick to boot?

For 50% retention, I might be willing....

 

[ToneDog]

Because his initial contract was an overpayment

If that number include the ECL bonus money Lou denied him and his Dad bitched about, do we have to pay him those bonuses again? He should get paid based on the numbers he puts up this season if he signs in July 2024 or next season if after. If he plays like he has this year, he's not getting $11m from me. He'll have to take a paycut or look elsewhere.

 

[SprDaVE]

I really think peeke could be a good project that wouldn’t cost us much seems like it’s very crowded there and they wanna move out the right shots he would be my picc and he’s young enough to really develope into something with work and time seems like a good kid

Peeke probably doesn't really move the needle on any of our current RHD. Now that Severson is injured long-term, maybe he'll be able to play more consistently though and we'll see how he does.

The Leafs have Timmins back, and both Benoit and Lagesson have shown to be capable defensemen as well. When Liljegren gets back, the Leafs will have a very crowded blueline. So any sort of trade needs to be about adding quality, not just an average/sideways addition.

 

[showtime8]

If the Preds offered Luke Schenn for a third, would you do it?

The guy that I would want from Nashville would be Jeremy Lauzon. He's a tough #5 defenseman that can play on the PK. That would alleviate the amount of time that Gio is playing on the PK and keep his minutes in check.

 

[SprDaVE]

If the Preds offered Luke Schenn for a third, would you do it?

Nope. I wouldn't offer anything more than fodder, like a conditional pick and/or a throwaway prospect like Schingoethe. That term is awful and he's only played 1 NHL game this year. Imagine how many 1st round picks we'd have to throw in to get rid of a 2.75M defenseman signed for 2 more seasons?

I'd love Schenn back but that contract is no bueno. I'm happy he got term and money, but he left a very good situation for it. Giving up good assets to take him back isn't good business.

 

[jiggy35]

If the Preds offered Luke Schenn for a third, would you do it?

He’s also been injured all of this season and who knows how he will come back from that.

As someone else said, for 50% and giving a very mediocre pick like a 5th it would be worth it I guess.

Also based on all of RoR, Acciari, and Schenn leaving it sounds like they didn’t really like being here

 

[ACC1224]

If the Preds offered Luke Schenn for a third, would you do it?

God no, why would anyone?