Dragao6
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Looking for thoughts of hockey people that are more informed then myself
To Toronto: Hoffman + Blackwood
To SJ: kling + samsonov+ ?
To Toronto: Hoffman + Blackwood
To SJ: kling + samsonov+ ?
Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition
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No thanks, Hoffman is a disaster this season. Goal scorer who has 0 goals and only 1 assist in 14 games.
Make it Ferraro + Blackwood for Kling + Samsonov and I’d be interested. Retention on Ferraro and Leafs will add.
Buds17
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I'd rather not have Toronto evidently diminish this season's team (going from Klingberg to Hoffman) at the cost of only potentially improving next season's goaltending situation (exchanging pending UFA Samsonov for an 'already under contract' Blackwood).
You do realize that players do see that as the team giving up on this year. Platers see deadline acquisitions as the organization having faith in them and no deadline acquisitions as a lack of faith. Even more so, doing so to make a theoretical future team better would be seen as an even bigger lack of faith. Lots of things can happen between seasons. Any given season could theoretically be the last season that a team is competitive for quite a while.
In fact, if a good team is not going to make significant adds at the deadline, I can't help but wonder if they shouldn't just give up on the season and put all their upcoming UFAs on the market. I mean, think of it, what if the Leafs not only did not spend at the deadline, but added assets for Klingberg, Domi, Bertuzzi, Brodie, Samsonov, and maybe Nylander?
I'm not saying that I want Leafs to do that but I am sure that some here would.
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I think Treliving will actually be more aggressive this season than Dubas was last season. I'm sure he feels enormous pressure to exceed his predecessor's results. I would be shocked if Minten and the 2024 first round pick remain Leaf assets past the trade deadline.
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I see it different. I see Treliving being passive for a few different reasons. The main reason is that this team has no cap space so any trade will be a nightmare to get done because it will have to be money in and money out, so that means a lot more roster turnover if you want to add.
Right now the only player that can be flipped an upgrade is Klingberg. Kampf might be another. Reaves can be waived but won't be. What else? Unless there's a LTIR for the season, I don't think there's much room to maneuver.
I don't think any contending team should want to keep their first rounder so if there's a way for the Leafs to add a big piece, they definitely should not be keeping late first round picks. Prospects have a wild range of value, so that depends entirely on the player.
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I wouldn't be so sure about Reaves not being waived. For some reason, I don't think his attitude is much appreciated in the locker room. Giordano said something during his interview that I thought was pretty telling. He said you can't just be a guy barking from the bench without doing anything. I think that was a shot at Reaves after the whole Marchand incident. Not to mention, Reaves was then sat out for McMann who then got 2 points in his first game and the 4th line actually looked great.
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SprDaVE
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Maybe so. The extra 1.1M might be needed at some point so maybe that's where they get it. I'll believe it when I see it.
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I don't think minten is going nowhere.
They don't have a ton of centers he could be the 3rd line center next yr.
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I think this is sort of a reset, evaluation year for the GM.
Of course that could change if this team shows itself to be a legit contender.
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It is a legit contender. Take a look around the league - there are no dynasties floating around anymore. It will be a coin flip to see who wins the Cup this season. Are the Leafs any less a contender than the Rangers, Stars, Avalanche, Bruins, etc.?
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We'll have a better answer to that question closer to the deadline.
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I would also be very surprised if they moved him for a pending UFA, if at all.
If they waive Reaves, they suddenly don't have a cap issue with everyone healthy.
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I’m not really down for the Z and Tanev package rumours.
I would go for Hannafin if he would sign or Ferraro etc.
If we insist on that route. We would have have to
Trade Lilly/klingberg plus assets for
Z and Taney at 50%
That would leave.
Knies. Matthews. Marner
Bert. Tavares. Nylander
Robby. Domi. Jarnkrok
Holm. Kampf. Reaves
Reilly. Brodie
McCabe tanev
Gio. Zadorov
I think if healthy that’s a good team.
I would go a different route
I would go for Hannafin if he would sign or Ferraro etc.
If we insist on that route. We would have have to
Trade Lilly/klingberg plus assets for
Z and Taney at 50%
That would leave.
Knies. Matthews. Marner
Bert. Tavares. Nylander
Robby. Domi. Jarnkrok
Holm. Kampf. Reaves
Reilly. Brodie
McCabe tanev
Gio. Zadorov
I think if healthy that’s a good team.
I would go a different route
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It in part depends on how attached Tre is to Klingberg or Brodie come the tdl. And if the Leafs are willing to pay the extra price for 3rd party retention.
Not sure if it'll be this tdl or the summer, but I'm not expecting the Leafs to keep more than 1 of their next 3 1st round picks
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Blackwood was a pretty decent goalie on some weak NJ teams but he inexplicably sucked on last year's 52 win club. Now those guys who mowed his grass are on hard times too so maybe the Devils D was not all that much of a wall after all. But Sammy's chances of a bounce back are a better risk to me than trying to solve your issue with a 4.00 ga replacement. If you make a move, make a stronger one than that. And I wouldn't throw Klinger away yet because his career line says this is the worst stretch he has ever had so why sell when he is waist deep in the sewer?
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I can’t figure out how to post tweets but I didn’t see this anywhere yet. Kane met with the Leafs?
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nuck
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I am not sure where they thought the right side stability was when they added Klingberg. If they have a top pair rock on the right and a really solid defensive LD to pair with Klinger it makes some sense but the Leafs roster doesn't resemble that. RD was weak in the playoffs in spite of Schenn who individually was great. I don't see an easy solution unless Klingberg and Lilly/Timmins have a monster second half. Lot of hockey to be played thank god so they have the time.
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Not to suggest this isn't true and Shannon is a pretty decent source but aren't all of the decision makers currently in Sweden? Or is management heading over later in the week?
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