Alright let’s lay them out. Which defencemen might be available for a mid season trade? Hanifin is the first name that came to mind, who are some other options?
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What about a push for Sarros? Nashville isn't going anywhere in the near future. They have their next #1 in Askarov kicking ass in the A, with absolutely no rush to bring him up considering how bad they are. Samsonov could even be a placeholder for the remainder of this year if they want him to over ripe down there.
Sarros has a year remaining after this year at $5M. Maybe even get them to retain.
It won't be cheap. 1st and either Minten or Cowen? More? I'm honestly not good at judging value in trades.
Would Samsonov have neutral value with his low cap hit and relative usefulness in this situation?
Hopefully Woll will be ready to fully take the reigns by the end of Sarros' contract.
This core is not getting any younger. We need a goaltender that we can count on to make a save. THIS SEASON.
Sarros has a year remaining after this year at $5M. Maybe even get them to retain.
It won't be cheap. 1st and either Minten or Cowen? More? I'm honestly not good at judging value in trades.
Would Samsonov have neutral value with his low cap hit and relative usefulness in this situation?
Hopefully Woll will be ready to fully take the reigns by the end of Sarros' contract.
This core is not getting any younger. We need a goaltender that we can count on to make a save. THIS SEASON.
What this None-sense TSN is putting out saying "a trade won't fix what's broken in Toronto."
You can tell this is Toronto's front office deflecting blame from themselves onto to the coach, when this is a purely personnel issue.
You can tell this is Toronto's front office deflecting blame from themselves onto to the coach, when this is a purely personnel issue.
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Depending on how their teams do, filling different needs ranging from a Klingberg replacement to a more physical stopper, to a 7th defenseman, to a long term building block solution, listed more or less alphabetically according to their team:
Ilya Lyubushkin
Sean Durzi
Noah Hanifin
Chris Tanev
Nikita Zadorov
Connor Murphy
Andrew Peeke
Jeff Petry
Ben Chiarot
Mattias Ekholm
Ryan McDonagh
Jake Middleton
Zach Bogosian
Mario Ferraro
Jan Rutta
Brian Dumoulin
Adam Larsson
Martin Fehervary
Nick Jensen
John Carlson
Dylan DeMelo
Brenden Dillon
Logan Stanley
Stephen
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Right now too many things appear to be broken. So you wouldn't be able to solve all of them via trade without triaging your order of needs and whether some/most of the issues resolve themselves internally first.
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Klingberg I think you have a couple of options:
1. The Ritchie, send him somewhere with a sweetener to a team that has already bailed on season, they may hope to flip him at deadline if he puts up some numbers.
2. Flip him for someone equally unwanted - not sure he fully qualifies, but if Zadorov is being shopped, maybe they swap places and then flames can dump Klingberg at deadline for another pick
1. The Ritchie, send him somewhere with a sweetener to a team that has already bailed on season, they may hope to flip him at deadline if he puts up some numbers.
2. Flip him for someone equally unwanted - not sure he fully qualifies, but if Zadorov is being shopped, maybe they swap places and then flames can dump Klingberg at deadline for another pick
I was just looking at CBJ Peeke is a big RHD. That's pretty much all that I know about him. Any insight?
I do think that Connor Murphy would be a good pickup.
I actually read it differently. As if there's internal strife - issues that will stick around as long as this core is together. Trading around the edges is futile.
Beauvillier for Klingberg straight up. Van is looking to move him and maybe they can scam VCR to take Klingberg dollar in for dollar out.
Beauvillier can play 3rd line or get moved to another team.
Klingberg getting trade is a win for the D and solves lots of their issues
Beauvillier can play 3rd line or get moved to another team.
Klingberg getting trade is a win for the D and solves lots of their issues
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Simplest explanation is they aren’t making any changes yet, they still like the team and think they can turn it around. Lowering expectations
I don’t understand why we didn’t match what Arizona gave durzi
No thank you
Good list missing a name or two though robertson for sure
Needs:
1) A true third line center -
Dream: Elias Lindholm, he's a UFA after this year.
Low Risk, High Reward signing: Sean Monahan. Just suffered a season ending injury but look alright last season in Montreal.
Trade Target: Travis Konecny, Philly is on the rebuild they might be willing to trade a 28 year old with only two seasons left of control.
2) A defensively responsible defenseman
Dream - Hanifin - I don't see Klingberg, Brodie or Gio coming back next season so we'll have space to pay him.
Plan B - Brett Pesce - Carolina is stacked with Dmen and he could be an odd man out when he expires.
Bargain Bin - Sebastian Aho - the Islanders version, not the Canes version. I think he's more of a depth solution. We'll be losing a bunch of dmen after this year so we should have space.
3) Depth scoring - Kasperi Kapanen. Never panned out as a Top 6 foward but he seems to have settled in as a middle 6 guy. He's fast, can kill penalties and had his best seasons here. I think he could be a cheap option to return to the team.
1) A true third line center -
Dream: Elias Lindholm, he's a UFA after this year.
Low Risk, High Reward signing: Sean Monahan. Just suffered a season ending injury but look alright last season in Montreal.
Trade Target: Travis Konecny, Philly is on the rebuild they might be willing to trade a 28 year old with only two seasons left of control.
2) A defensively responsible defenseman
Dream - Hanifin - I don't see Klingberg, Brodie or Gio coming back next season so we'll have space to pay him.
Plan B - Brett Pesce - Carolina is stacked with Dmen and he could be an odd man out when he expires.
Bargain Bin - Sebastian Aho - the Islanders version, not the Canes version. I think he's more of a depth solution. We'll be losing a bunch of dmen after this year so we should have space.
3) Depth scoring - Kasperi Kapanen. Never panned out as a Top 6 foward but he seems to have settled in as a middle 6 guy. He's fast, can kill penalties and had his best seasons here. I think he could be a cheap option to return to the team.
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I think defence is bigger problem at the moment. I think Domi and Bertuzzi will settle in. I think we need a new coach as well
Top 3 linea are fine.
Knies. Matthews. Marner
Robertson. Tavares. Nylander
Bertuzzi. Domi. Jarnkrok
4th line needs some work.
Xxxxx. Kampf. Xxxxx
Defense is scary.
Rielly. Xxxx
Xxxxx. Brodie
Mccabe. Lily
Gio. Kleinberg
Not sure how they can get 2 top 4 defenseman.
Goaltending is complicated, if defense was better maybe they can put it together. I think Samsonov is better than he is playing but with that said, there is a reason beyond money why the Caps let him go so this may be the real him.
Top 3 linea are fine.
Knies. Matthews. Marner
Robertson. Tavares. Nylander
Bertuzzi. Domi. Jarnkrok
4th line needs some work.
Xxxxx. Kampf. Xxxxx
Defense is scary.
Rielly. Xxxx
Xxxxx. Brodie
Mccabe. Lily
Gio. Kleinberg
Not sure how they can get 2 top 4 defenseman.
Goaltending is complicated, if defense was better maybe they can put it together. I think Samsonov is better than he is playing but with that said, there is a reason beyond money why the Caps let him go so this may be the real him.
Same here. Never really understood that either if we’re looking for offence from the blueline. But maybe it was due to Dubas already trading quite a bit of high picks
I would just go after Fabbro. When everyone is healthy I would run
Rielly - Fabbro
McCabe - Liljegren
Lagesson - Brodie
Replacing Klingberg with Fabbro would also save us 1.65 million towards the cap giving us let’s of flexibility to carry a couple extra skaters or even to put towards signing Kane.
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I wonder if the the Leafs circle back to Desharnais of the Oilers? They tried to trade Lafferty for him. I think he'd be a good PK addition and give us size/physicality from the back end. This is assuming of course the Klingberg experiment is over.
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The Ritchie trade brought in a solid defenseman that played alright in that deal. Ritchie had another year to his deal, so that complicated things a lot more but Dubas did ok to fix that mistake. And Ritchie cleared waivers too.
I think the Leafs could retain a chunk of his contract and hope a team bites. There could be a 1 for 1 scenario that also works but for 4M, there aren't many candidates. I don't think they need to add a sweetener unless the trade involves a good player back.
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Give Vancouver their 5th back and Klingberg for Beauvillier
Knies-Matthews-Marner
Bert-JT-88
Robertson-Domi-Beau
Gregor-Kampf-Jarnkrok (gives Kampf a purpose again)
Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Liljegren
Gio-Timmins
Benoit or Laggesson
Woll
Samsonov
Reaves demoted
Look for a defenseman at that point if the forward group gets fixed.
Knies-Matthews-Marner
Bert-JT-88
Robertson-Domi-Beau
Gregor-Kampf-Jarnkrok (gives Kampf a purpose again)
Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Liljegren
Gio-Timmins
Benoit or Laggesson
Woll
Samsonov
Reaves demoted
Look for a defenseman at that point if the forward group gets fixed.
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If Vancouver is looking for more defensive depth, this could work for both sides.
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