Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[Avilaj07]

Wouldn't mind a Trenin and Carrier package

 

[Roo]

An elite #2 defenseman at a very reasonable 6.5 million dollar cap hit is definitely worth a 1st.

A this is not a 25 year old Parayko. He is 30, had regressed quite a bit from what he was, and is having a bit of a bounce back season this year. To carry this for another 7 years and expect he will simply excel here is silly.

Everyone complaining about Brodie wants to do the same thing and pick up a contract that is much worse. It’s nuts, and it’s pure short-term thinking. All this ‘let’s worry about it then’ is nonsense.

 

[pspot]

hope leafs put a claim in for Jaret Anderson-Dolan

 

[DarkKnight]

And then maneuvering himself into death valley.

Talk about opposites.

 

[LeafSteel]

Buchnevich
Parayko

Just do it.

 

[the real Fox mulder]

He's not. The idea to get Parayko is the potential upside and the cheap cost. It shouldn't cost us a 1st, top prospects or even Liljegren.


If they were going to do it, it would have been in the summer.

I'm in the same mind set. Parayko at $6.5M for 7 years is a gamble. No teams is going to pay a first now to acquire him and in the next 4 to 5 years pay another first to get him off the books.

 

[ULF_55]

It will be nice when the trade deadline passes and I don't have to hear "move the needle" anymore. Lots to unpack here, thanks for doing the heavy lifting.

A difference maker is always nice, but without a foundation of solid players it won't help.

Leafs have difference makers, just last night Nylander, marner Matthews and Samsonov.

They need a better foundation so the gap between their difference makers and that foundation isn't such a wide gap.

Perhaps those prospects getting so much attention is that reinforced foundation?

 

[DarkKnight]

A difference maker is always nice, but without a foundation of solid players it won't help.

Leafs have difference makers, just last night Nylander, marner Matthews and Samsonov.

They need a better foundation so the gap between their difference makers and that foundation isn't such a wide gap.

Perhaps those prospects getting so much attention is that reinforced foundation?

Slow clap.

 

[Fogelhund]

A this is not a 25 year old Parayko. He is 30, had regressed quite a bit from what he was, and is having a bit of a bounce back season this year. To carry this for another 7 years and expect he will simply excel here is silly.

Everyone complaining about Brodie wants to do the same thing and pick up a contract that is much worse. It’s nuts, and it’s pure short-term thinking. All this ‘let’s worry about it then’ is nonsense.

In fairness, yes Parayko did regress significantly due to back injuries. His play has returned to it's former self, for a good portion of last year, and this year. He does have decent skating, though he seems to be caught flat footed at times. I think you'd get 4-5 years out of Parayko, and if further injuries prevented his future play, well we know how we deal with that.

Parayko isn't at the top of my list for guys to get, but I do think he'd make a decent partner for Rielly and help the team. As long as the cost isn't crazy, I'd do it. 1st and Niemela for example.

Brodie has still been good on his Left side, but when you are small, and lose a step, you are in trouble as a D man. He doesn't have size, range, physicality on his side .. so it becomes a bigger problem for him.

We saw a guy like Chara be useful until he was 40, and he had slowed down significantly... now I"m not saying Parayko is as good as Chara, but there are similarities.

Parayko would be a much better add than a Savard or Edmundson though.

 

[ER89]

Columbus reporters were saying he was still not 100 percent literally before the trade. Revisionism is right.

Lol yep but hey let's call people revisionists for.....being right before and after?

Slow clap.

Foundation and culture. That's why the Bruins are always good. Smfh i hate them so much

 

[leafsfan2point0]

I’d go for Carrier, yea he’s on the smaller side.. but he’s a legit good top 4 rhd and is just entering his prime.

 

[ULF_55]

Keep that cancer away from the Leafs at all costs……..

Memories of:

Byfuglien and Kane situation in Winnipeg. (spelling from memory for Big Buff)

 

[rumman]

I’d go for Carrier, yea he’s on the smaller side.. but he’s a legit good top 4 rhd and is just entering his prime.

I was hoping obtaining the vertically challenged would be a thing of the past now Boy Wonder has found employment elsewhere…….

 

[Dreakmur]

A this is not a 25 year old Parayko. He is 30, had regressed quite a bit from what he was, and is having a bit of a bounce back season this year. To carry this for another 7 years and expect he will simply excel here is silly.

How has he regressed? He is playing a load of very tough minutes and still producing similar point totals without the PP time.

He’s actually better now than he was 5 years ago. Sure, he’ll eventually decline, but no reason to pretend he has already.

Everyone complaining about Brodie wants to do the same thing and pick up a contract that is much worse. It’s nuts, and it’s pure short-term thinking. All this ‘let’s worry about it then’ is nonsense.

Brodie can’t carry Parayko’s equipment.

 

[Fogelhund]

Parayko would definitely help, but at what cost, and no one can definitively say a player like Peeke couldn’t be a good younger pairing for Rielly at a fraction of the cost……..

At this point, I think it might be best to leave the Peeke idea until the offseason. While he was trending towards being quite good at 23, at 25 he's had two down years, which I think has more to do with where his head is at, than ability. Throwing him into the fire, at this part of the season might not be advisable, if one is taking on a project.

If however in the offseason, you can find a way to broker a deal where there is retention, whether that is by Columbus or someone else, I think that is time to explore it. The acquisition price would have to be fairly low though.

 

[rumman]

Slow clap.

 

[Roo]

In fairness, yes Parayko did regress significantly due to back injuries. His play has returned to it's former self, for a good portion of last year, and this year. He does have decent skating, though he seems to be caught flat footed at times. I think you'd get 4-5 years out of Parayko, and if further injuries prevented his future play, well we know how we deal with that.

Parayko isn't at the top of my list for guys to get, but I do think he'd make a decent partner for Rielly and help the team. As long as the cost isn't crazy, I'd do it. 1st and Niemela for example.

Brodie has still been good on his Left side, but when you are small, and lose a step, you are in trouble as a D man. He doesn't have size, range, physicality on his side .. so it becomes a bigger problem for him.

We saw a guy like Chara be useful until he was 40, and he had slowed down significantly... now I"m not saying Parayko is as good as Chara, but there are similarities.

Parayko would be a much better add than a Savard or Edmundson though.

He was crap last year: link

He's having a bounce-back year, yes, but I don't think that is 'top pairing on a contender' play. He was crap in the games we played STL, and my cousins who are die-hard Blues fans living in STL tell me he is not the player he was (even this year). We all want the same thing, but I don't think Parayko is the answer.

 

[rumman]

At this point, I think it might be best to leave the Peeke idea until the offseason. While he was trending towards being quite good at 23, at 25 he's had two down years, which I think has more to do with where his head is at, than ability. Throwing him into the fire, at this part of the season might not be advisable, if one is taking on a project.

If however in the offseason, you can find a way to broker a deal where there is retention, whether that is by Columbus or someone else, I think that is time to explore it. The acquisition price would have to be fairly low though.

Well that’s one way of looking at it, the other is that Columbus is a gong show and haven’t utilized him properly, the good news is he’s well rested for a deep playoff run…….

 

[DarkKnight]

Lol yep but hey let's call people revisionists for.....being right before and after?


Foundation and culture. That's why the Bruins are always good. Smfh i hate them so much

It ironic too trying to whitewash every Dubas blunder and then accusing others of revisionism. I love it here!

 

[rumman]

How has he regressed? He is playing a load of very tough minutes and still producing similar point totals without the PP time.

He’s actually better now than he was 5 years ago. Sure, he’ll eventually decline, but no reason to pretend he has already.



Brodie can’t carry Parayko’s equipment.

Brodie’s useless, the team would be better with him in the press box if not off the team completely……..

 

[Kurtz]

I’d go for Carrier, yea he’s on the smaller side.. but he’s a legit good top 4 rhd and is just entering his prime.

I think that ship has sailed - Nash has been running hot and is now firmly in a playoff spot.

 

[Beaumaris]

deadline day will be boring AF

Usually is.

 

[ULF_55]

He’s definitely worth a 1st. He’s still a top pairing defenceman and that contract shouldn’t be terrible for another 4 years.

Tanev is already 34, and has to be re-signed.

Parayko is 30, plays the most TOI/g for the Blues.

Maybe Parayko could become an issue in the 2028-29 season, at age 35. Tanev turns 35 in December.

 

[TMLAM34]

Brodie’s useless, the team would be better with him in the press box if not off the team completely……..

The offence literally dies every time the puck touches his stick and now he’s making terrible mistakes in the defensive end. People need to let go of the player he USED to be defensively. Won’t happen but he’s the defenceman I would move. The mistakes piling up along with the VERY soft play, he can go.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Parayko with Rielly is great.
If we can rely on the 2nd pair to lift a lot of weight too.

McCabe-Liljgren (or other) NEED to be able to play hard mins, if we want success.

Benoit - Lybushkin (or other) should be adequate for softer, simple mins that rely on straightforward coverage and transitions. Playing stingey playoff D in all zones.