Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[Leaf Rocket]

arizona and dumba...?

 

[JEI]

Going off of CJ's trade board:

Eller, Pacrioretty, Dowd are all forwards that I think could add an element. Not much on D outside of Carrier.

 

[Evilhomer]

Still changes nothing about what I said.

Most teams can't do that.

It waters down the league having a team play in mullet arena...

Different issue, but no question the Arizona situation is an embarrassment for the league.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Going off of CJ's trade board:

Eller, Pacrioretty, Dowd are all forwards that I think could add an element. Not much on D outside of Carrier.

I'm kind of surprised Carrier's on the list at this point.

Nashville would seem to be comfortably in playoff contention....unless they're very sure they can't extend him?

 

[LeafEgo]

Sounds like Tree wants Parayko but is going to get Dumba.

 

[ChazzMichaelMichaels]

Sounds like Tree wants Parayko but is going to get Dumba.

Has anyone noteworthy mentioned Parayko is available and were interested? I haven’t seen anyone except that Pagnotta guy even mention Parayko.

 

[Dreakmur]

The LTIR has to stop.

Just have a soft cap or no cap. It's about 10 teams pulling the league anyway.

Holy f***.

I get growing the game but Leafs would be f***ing stacked with no cap or paying luxury taxes.

The league needs some fresh ideas.

Don’t the Leafs have more LTIR used than any other team? And by far…

 

[Lemontree]

Meh, he didn't improve nor degrade what was here IMO. He made some very bad moves, and he made a few very good ones. He drafted very well. The issue to me is too many of the same type of player. We'll see what happens over the next couple of years.

Some people still keep echoing this false statement. How did Dubas "draft well". What is the measure of success for drafting? Here are the NHL players drafted by the Leafs during the time Dubas was the GM:

2018:
Rasmus Sandin (#29) - Traded
Sean Durzi (#52) - Traded
Pontus Holmberg (#156) - Current 4th liner.

No other picks are considered prospect status.

2019:
Nicholas Robertson (#53) - Hasn't yet established himself as a full time NHL player.

Mikko Kokkonen (#84) - Considered a prospect. Is he viewed as someone with NHL upside? (actual question as I'm not sure how his development has been going).

2020:

No Current NHL Players

Roni Hirvonen (#59) - Considered a prospect but isn't tracking well to be an NHL player (IMO).
Topi Niemela (#64) - Legit prospect that hopefully can become a full time NHL dman.
Ryan Tverberg (#213) - Considered a prospect but seems like a long shot to have an NHL career.

*Amirov (#15) - Rest In Peace young man (this pick is not up for debate and excluded from conversation regarding drafting performance ).

2021:

Matthew Knies (#57) - Established himself as NHL player, looks to be a good top 6 player.

No Prospects

2022:

Fraser Minten (#38) - A solid prospect that projects to be a solid 3rd line C in the future.
Dennis Hildeby (#122) - A good goalie prospect. Could have an NHL career (all goalies are hard to project).
Nikita Grebenkin (#135) - A promising prospect playing in the KHL. Has skills, will it translate to NHL?

In 5 NHL drafts (team would be awarded 7 picks per draft = 35 picks in total). Dubas and his scouting staff managed to select:

5 NHL players:
2 traded
Knies
Holmberg & Robertson still fighting to establish themselves as everyday NHL players.

7 Prospects (maybe, seems like a generous number).

 

[stats1]

Going off of CJ's trade board:

Eller, Pacrioretty, Dowd are all forwards that I think could add an element. Not much on D outside of Carrier.

Pacioretty will be going to Florida. He has a NTC and apparently his preference is there

 

[stickty111]

 

[Evilhomer]

No other team could do better than that?

 

[Commander Clueless]

Sounds like Tree wants Parayko but is going to get Dumba.

If he's cheap, Dumba isn't the worst idea I've ever heard....but where is the fit? Is Brodie-Dumba really better than Brodie-LIljegren?

I think Boosh is a better fit with Rielly (and has been playing very well), and you don't split up Benoit-McCabe.....

 

[TMLeafer]

I was hoping all the other teams colluded to not help broker the trade

 

[Commander Clueless]

No other team could do better than that?

Probably limited by Hanifin picking his destination.

Must be nice to be on the beneficiary side of a trade like that.....

 

[BertCorbeau]

No other team could do better than that?

Hanifin has an 8-team NTC .. must have complicated things

Also teams likely wouldn’t give good assets without an extension, maybe he didn’t want to re-sign there

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Very weak return for Calgary

 

[Evilhomer]

Hanifin has an 8-team NTC .. must have complicated things

Also teams likely wouldn’t give good assets without an extension, maybe he didn’t want to re-sign there

I guess. Basically a first and a second (let's assume they win a round) and a guy that no one has ever heard of who will be 27 when next season starts. Goes to show the power of having first and second round picks available to be used as currency.

 

[ULF_55]

Still changes nothing about what I said.

Most teams can't do that.

It waters down the league having a team play in mullet arena...

Muzzin and Klingberg healthy when playoffs start?

 

[LeafEgo]

If he's cheap, Dumba isn't the worst idea I've ever heard, but where is the fit? Is Brodie-Dumba really better than Brodie-LIljegren?

I think Boosh is a better fit with Rielly (and has been playing very well), and you don't split up Benoit-McCabe.....

I kinda picture Keefe cursing out a whiteboard.

From Trees perspective it feels like out of necessity just put together a battalion of eight defenseman that can collectively grind out more than one round as a unit without spending more than a 3rd.

I reckon Dumba would get a try out with Rielly and they take it from there.

 

[OVO16]

The Matt Dumba hate is overblown. For the right price, I wouldn't be oppsoed to him at all.

Look at all the stuff ya'll were saying about Lybushkin. And look how thats turning out. Look at Benoit

I think the team the player pays for matters a lot

 

[IPS]

The Matt Dumba hate is overblown. For the right price, I wouldn't be oppsoed to him at all.

Look at all the stuff ya'll were saying about Lybushkin. And look how thats turning out. Look at Benoit

I think the team the player pays for matters a lot

I'm honestly at the point where I"m down for anything that can potentially help the team.

Florida and Bruins adding big really bleakens the playoff hope for me.

 

[Buds17]

That should amount to a great deal if VGK can have a good amount of playoff success and be able to re-sign Hanifin.

 

[Warden of the North]

Calgary just giving assets away for nothing at the same time they refuse to deal with the Leafs

Awesome

 

[OVO16]

I'm honestly at the point where I"m down for anything that can potentially help the team.

Florida and Bruins adding big really bleakens the playoff hope for me.

Bruins haven't addded anything yet. We've also added big in years past. Bruins added big last year and went no where.

 

[supermann_98]

All those years of us adding fringe pending UFAs at the deadline. Could you imagine us if we'd actually have added 2 bona-fide good players with term or an extension in place?

Ryan O'Reilly I was hoping to be that bonafide player and he could've been if he stayed, but he smelled the stink in that locker room and got the hell outta dodge