Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[ErnieLeafs]

Elliot had mentioned on 32 Thoughts that the Blues have wanted to re-make their blue line, and they were open to moves if they were out there. I would absolutely try as hard as I could to get Parayko, knowing that you could do some cap gymnastics and land Tanev as a FA in the summer, and you instantly have a blue line that is world’s better for a run next year.

 

[the real Fox mulder]

I've thought about it for a while, I love Forsling but he has to get to UFA and you gotta win the bidding war.

Of the UFA - Roy/Pesce are probably the top choices for RD but they're American, no guarantee you win.

I would like Tanev but he's 34...hard to say he's a long term solution.

None of the other guys really fix the RD problem we've had.

Weegar won't be traded here because Calgary hates Treliving

So we arrive at Parayko, and I am happy to go for it, better to know we have him now than strike out in the summer.

With the issue we're having on defense, I believe the off season is the best time to fix those issues, not rental at the trade deadline. Even with Pesce being an American, I believe Treliving will go hard for him.

Also if we don't go far in the playoff, Keefe is gone and changing the coach may help the defense as well.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

He probably would be relatively cheap but how do you Free up the cap room both this year and next. Leafs are in LTIR so they need 6.5M in Free space. you can waive a few guys down to a 20 man roster but you have to send back salary or trade it out elsewhere. That means Domi or Brodie probably has to go out.

I like Brodie, the guy. Brodie the human being is a wonderful dude, but are you honestly that arsed if he has to move?

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Savard isn't good. Hard pass.

I've been against Parayko because of age/contract and his struggles vs speed, but I don't know now. Shouldn't cost a ton....not sure how the money is going to work. Live now, cry later? Hanta Yo, baby!

 

[Kurtz]

He probably would be relatively cheap but how do you Free up the cap room both this year and next. Leafs are in LTIR so they need 6.5M in Free space. you can waive a few guys down to a 20 man roster but you have to send back salary or trade it out elsewhere. That means Domi or Brodie probably has to go out.

Brodie is a goner in the off-season, hasn't played particularly well this season, and plays better on the left side where we have a lot of trouble finding room for him.

We might be able to get an asset for him as well. Sometimes it's just about fit, and Parayko seems like a much better fit than Brodie right now.

 

[ULF_55]

He probably would be relatively cheap but how do you Free up the cap room both this year and next. Leafs are in LTIR so they need 6.5M in Free space. you can waive a few guys down to a 20 man roster but you have to send back salary or trade it out elsewhere. That means Domi or Brodie probably has to go out.

Last free agency ... kind of puts the Leafs into the do nothing area code and hope those 2 signings make a difference.

Just try out the kids already, you've mucked this up enough for one year.

Leafs deserve better, not just the same poop with different packaging.

 

[CDN24]

Brodie is a goner in the off-season, hasn't played particularly well this season, and plays better on the left side where we have a lot of trouble finding room for him.

We might be able to get an asset for him as well. Sometimes it's just about fit, and Parayko seems like a much better fit than Brodie right now.

He is right now but he will cost more than just Brodie and in 3 yrs when he is the same age as Brodie he may look equally bad but with 3 yrs remaining at 6.5M. The only reason Parayko may be available is STL is leery of the 6 years remaining on his contract.

 

[TMLAM34]

Parayko’s contract is ugly but with the cap going up, it might not be TOO bad. All I know is he’d make our blueline 10x better today.

To Toronto: 2nd Rounder
To Any Team: TJ Brodie

To Toronto: Colton Parayko + Sammy Blais (50% retained)
To St. Louis: TOR 1st Rounder + 2nd Rounder + Nick Robertson + Topi Niemela

 

[rumman]

Leafs cant risk taking on that Parayko contract. Unless they know they can LTIR him if it goes sideways. Definitely not worth the risk.

Can you pre book your stay on Robsdias Island?

 

[ULF_55]

Brodie is a goner in the off-season, hasn't played particularly well this season, and plays better on the left side where we have a lot of trouble finding room for him.

We might be able to get an asset for him as well. Sometimes it's just about fit, and Parayko seems like a much better fit than Brodie right now.

Kind of ruthless with his personal burdens right now, but his NTC is 10 teams, so 21 he can be dealt to, but would this really be considered a dump?

I just don't see anything worth pursuing without the Leafs moving out about $4-5mm in salary.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Imagine if we ever drafted a good, big bodied, right handed dman.

 

[MapleLeafs77]

I would go after Chychrun and Parayko.

Rielly Parayko
Chychrun Liljegren
McCabe Boosh/Benoit

Trade our 1st, brodie, minten, niemela, Robertson, timmins, etc

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Imagine if we ever drafted a good, big bodied, right handed dman.

Bring back Eemeli Rasanen

 

[Kurtz]

He is right now but he will cost more than just Brodie and in 3 yrs when he is the same age as Brodie he may look equally bad but with 3 yrs remaining at 6.5M. The only reason Parayko may be available is STL is leery of the 6 years remaining on his contract.

Luckily we have private access to Robidas Island .

I don't think it's possible to find a first-pairing RHD who doesn't come with some downside. If such a guy is ever on the market then we'd have to ante up Knies, Cowan and who knows what else.

 

[Kiwi]

I don't think this team is good enough to go all in and burn the boats this TDL

There's to much to do and prices are to high, a lot of this work needs to be done in the off-season

I also don't want to do anything stupid and take on an albatross of a contract this TDL out of desperation

 

[Evilhomer]

Leafs cant risk taking on that Parayko contract. Unless they know they can LTIR him if it goes sideways. Definitely not worth the risk.

This for me is the real downside of their salary structure. They can't afford to miss on the "middle" salaries - i.e., guys at $4-$6 million per season. They don't have space to carry bad contracts.

 

[nuck]

Oh no. Creative can't be good I smell a Dumba trade where he hopes to create ability where none currently exists.

 

[ULF_55]

Luckily we have private access to Robidas Island .

I don't think it's possible to find a first-pairing RHD who doesn't come with some downside. If such a guy is ever on the market then we'd have to ante up Knies, Cowan and who knows what else.

I don't think this team is good enough to go all in and burn the boats this TDL

There's to much to do and prices are to high, a lot of this work needs to be done in the off-season

I also don't want to do anything stupid and take on an albatross of a contract this TDL out of desperation

Actually, I have no faith in this team, but I'd still be fine if they moved picks and prospect for players under contract or RFA beyond the current season, excluding Cowan, Grebenkin and Hildeby.

Cowan could be special, and Grebenkin is an unknown but looks to be better than most of the other assets in the system.

 

[ULF_55]

Oh no. Creative can't be good I smell a Dumba trade where he hopes to create ability where none currently exists.

Creative sounds like overpaying for the privilege of getting to chose the colour of the deck chairs.

 

[nuck]

I don't think this team is good enough to go all in and burn the boats this TDL

There's to much to do and prices are to high, a lot of this work needs to be done in the off-season

I also don't want to do anything stupid and take on an albatross of a contract this TDL out of desperation

A late 1st in a weak year isn't all in IMO. The alternative is bringing a lineup with a large hole in it into round 1 and getting stomped. We don't know if prices are high, just the rumored asks, I do see Monahan as more of an overpay than Lindholm as Van got to dump a fat contract attached to a player they had no use for. I don't think the Tanev deal was a big cost compared to D that have moved every year at this time. Most of the boats are burned already. If they were reluctant to move the 1st I can't imagine Cowen who is their best asset by a lot.

 

[stats1]

Creative sounds like overpaying for the privilege of getting to chose the colour of the deck chairs.

I think creative could mean add a roster player if we could get the player we want. Like I’m just thinking outside the box but what if the Leafs could add in Liljgren or Robertson along with our first round pick. Clearly kids like Minten, Cowan and Knies are off limits

 

[the real Fox mulder]

Oh no. Creative can't be good I smell a Dumba trade where he hopes to create ability where none currently exists.

I don't view a Dumba trade as a creative move, I view that as throwing crap on the wall and hopes that it sticks.

I view creative as trading for A Weeger or a Buchnevich, and just giving up a 1st, Minten, Kampf

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[ULF_55]

A late 1st in a weak year isn't all in IMO. The alternative is bringing a lineup with a large hole in it into round 1 and getting stomped. We don't know if prices are high, just the rumored asks, I do see Monahan as more of an overpay than Lindholm as Van got to dump a fat contract attached to a player they had no use for. I don't think the Tanev deal was a big cost compared to D that have moved every year at this time. Most of the boats are burned already. If they were reluctant to move the 1st I can't imagine Cowen who is their best asset by a lot.

Not disagreeing with you, but find it kind of ironic that Cowan was 28th. overall pick.

This year at this point they'd be picking 23rd.?

 

[ULF_55]

I don't view a Dumba trade as a creative move, I view that as throwing crap on the wall and hopes that it sticks.

I view creative as trading for A Weeger or a Buchnevich, and just giving up a 1st, Minten, Kampf

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Creative would be getting someone to waive their NTC/NMC.

Tavares for Kadri would be creative.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

I wish they would get someone like Weegar and solve this problem properly.

They've had this RHD issue for so long now.