Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[ULF_55]

I'm sure it's been mentioned but the Leafs have kicked around on Jensen with Washington.

A lot of these names are incredibly underwhelming.

Like this list:

Marshall Rifai

Max Lajoie

William Lagesson

John Klingberg

Conor Timmins

Mark Giordano

 

[nuck]

Also would be interested in Savard but the Plekanic deal has been jaded towards acquiring Habs… savard might just not care enough about being a leaf

His game has been going south since before he left Columbus. A bit of an uptick when he went to TB but he wasn't actually good there and was a little worse for them in the playoffs, Jensen at least was still a good player in 2021 but coming off two weak years since then and he is 33 so may be better than Savard but still not better than RD Brodie.

 

[Stand Witness]

How many actual quality right d are there in the league lol? Or at least one that fits what we want?

It feels like 10 at most.

Hindsight it 20/20 but man we should have done everything to bring in Pietro when there was mutual interest… or at least it was always believed that there was.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Like this list:

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[TD]Marshall Rifai[/TD]
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[TD]Max Lajoie[/TD]
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[TD]William Lagesson[/TD]
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[TD]John Klingberg[/TD]
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[TD]Conor Timmins[/TD]
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[TD]Mark Giordano[/TD]
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They need RD Muzzin and probably another "generic top 4" D to really solidify the group.

How many actual quality right d are there in the league lol? Or at least one that fits what we want?

It feels like 10 at most.

Hindsight it 20/20 but man we should have done everything to bring in Pietro when there was mutual interest… or at least it was always believed that there was.

Brodie - 5M
Simmonds- 1.5M
Thornton - 775k
Kerfoot 3.5M
Vesey 800k
Barabanov - 775k

It might have involved more moves etc but there was a path towards doing it.

 

[SprDaVE]

I'm sure it's been mentioned but the Leafs have kicked around on Jensen with Washington.

A lot of these names are incredibly underwhelming.

Jensen is a #4/5 at best and will be turning 34 next season. Unless Washington retains, hopefully, Treliving stays away

Yeah the 4M cap hit for the next 2 years is really rough for his age. But he's still efficient and good defensively. He doesn't have much offensively though... he's very TJ Brodie-esque.

I think I'd acquire him if the cost is a simple 4th/5th round pick without any retention. They'd probably want and could get more I assume.

 

[OVO16]

Yeah Bogo is a nice add but I don’t think where the fit it.. seems like the Leafs need to add a righty than can at least complement Rielly and move everyone down a spot on the depth chart.

He would be a Luke Schenn type add for Rielly. A stabilizing tough partner.

Again, not on the top of the list but if we're gonna talk about guys like Lybushkin and Dumba...Id prefer Bogosian over both

 

[BertCorbeau]

He would be a Luke Schenn type add for Rielly. A stabilizing tough partner.

Again, not on the top of the list but if we're gonna talk about guys like Lybushkin and Dumba...Id prefer Bogosian over both

I’d prefer Bogo too, I just don’t think any of them are the partner for Rielly needed.

You’d be better off targeting Schenn with retention because at least you know he worked well enough with him.

 

[ULF_55]

I’d prefer Bogo too, I just don’t think any of them are the partner for Rielly needed.

You’d be better off targeting Schenn with retention because at least you know he worked well enough with him.

Tom Nilsson​

Defense -- shoots R
Born Aug 19 1993 -- Tyreso, Sweden
[30 yrs. ago]
Height 6.00 -- Weight 183 [183 cm/83 kg]
Drafted by Toronto Maple Leafs
- round 4 #100 overall 2011 NHL Entry Draft

 

[sxvnert]

Rielly Schenn
Brodie Lily
Benoit McCabe
Edmundson Lyubushkin

 

[OVO16]

Rielly Schenn
Brodie Lily
Benoit McCabe
Edmundson Lyubushkin

Bro thinks this EA sports

 

[Leaffan1991]

Borgen at 50 percent plus Oleksiak for
Brodie(Seattle trades for picks)
And a first plus Niemela

 

[Legion34]

He is either 1st pairing RHD or scratched.
Preds fans find it amusing. I think he played on the 1st pair last game again.

Really? That’s pretty nutty. I don’t think I have ever heard of that

 

[TheShape]

How many actual quality right d are there in the league lol? Or at least one that fits what we want?

It feels like 10 at most.

Hindsight it 20/20 but man we should have done everything to bring in Pietro when there was mutual interest… or at least it was always believed that there was.

There was. Dubas made him an offer also but the money wasn’t enough. Should’ve trimmed fat off the roster elsewhere or the nuclear option being allowing Rielly to walk. I would’ve pulled the trigger on that.

 

[Pinkcat]

The argument will be if they had bought, they could have gone deeper.

You know it to be true

Certainly hasn't worked out lately though.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Probably pointless to bring this up but what the hell.

Do you think a lot of the roster construction and frustration boils down to Rielly just plain being mediocre at best at playing actual defense? Limiting us to options that insulate him?

I'm going to say that Rielly elevates in the playoffs and has overall been fairly good this year, less glaring issues than previous years, last few games with Brodie aside.

I suppose this is right there with Tavares and he's not moving, more so with Rielly just extending but basically...we're in agreement, his defensive deficiencies make it that much harder to assemble a group of 6?

 

[Legion34]

We didn’t have the assets. To get Tanev. We traded them all last year for rentals and got McCabe and 2 5ths.

I’m not sure Tre would have done it. But man I really hope we don’t do that again.

 

[Menzinger]

There was. Dubas made him an offer also but the money wasn’t enough. Should’ve trimmed fat off the roster elsewhere or the nuclear option being allowing Rielly to walk. I would’ve pulled the trigger on that.

His wife is American, and the interviews he gave around free agency seemed like he wasn't going to consider Canada. Even going dollar for dollar with Vegas, Nevada has the nicer winters than Toronto unfortunately

Probably pointless to bring this up but what the hell.

Do you think a lot of the roster construction and frustration boils down to Rielly just plain being mediocre at best at playing actual defense? Limiting us to options that insulate him?

I'm going to say that Rielly elevates in the playoffs and has overall been fairly good this year, less glaring issues than previous years, last few games with Brodie aside.

I suppose this is right there with Tavares and he's not moving, more so with Rielly just extending but basically...we're in agreement, his defensive deficiencies make it that much harder to assemble a group of 6?

I think you answered your own question. He elevates his game in the playoffs,. everything else is secondary. We need more guys to follow his lead in that regard

 

[Kurtz]

Probably pointless to bring this up but what the hell.

Do you think a lot of the roster construction and frustration boils down to Rielly just plain being mediocre at best at playing actual defense? Limiting us to options that insulate him?

I'm going to say that Rielly elevates in the playoffs and has overall been fairly good this year, less glaring issues than previous years, last few games with Brodie aside.

I suppose this is right there with Tavares and he's not moving, more so with Rielly just extending but basically...we're in agreement, his defensive deficiencies make it that much harder to assemble a group of 6?

Nah, man.

We've seen it again and again - all Morgan needs is a reliable defensive right-handed partner. Doesn't need to be a star, he looked good with Hainsey, Schenn, even Lybushkin. Looked great with Tanev internationally. Instead he's playing with Brodie who sucks on the right side.

If Dubas signed Tanev instead of Brodie a couple of seasons ago, we'd have had a stellar #1 pairing for years now, instead of constantly spinning our wheels.

The failure is not on Morgan , it's on our management groups who have repeatedly failed to find that guy in the off-season. It should not be that difficult to find such a dman.

 

[francis246]

This is why I respect Jim Rutherford. They mean business. They got a trade ready for Pettersson and said, either you negotiate now and to our terms or you can go play for the Hurricanes.

Im sure we see an extension coming up.

 

[sxvnert]

Bargain hunting:

Dumba + Brown for picks (3rds/4ths/5ths)

Rielly Dumba
Brodie Lily/Brown
Benoit McCabe

 

[WTFMAN99]

Nah, man.

We've seen it again and again - all Morgan needs is a reliable defensive right-handed partner. Doesn't need to be a star, he looked good with Hainsey, Schenn, even Lybushkin. Looked great with Tanev internationally. Instead he's playing with Brodie who sucks on the right side.

If Dubas signed Tanev instead of Brodie a couple of seasons ago, we'd have had a stellar #1 pairing for years now, instead of constantly spinning our wheels.

The failure is not on Morgan , it's on our management groups who have repeatedly failed to find that guy in the off-season. It should not be that difficult to find such a dman.

That's another perspective.

I have a feeling the RD will have to wait until the off-season to be resolved.

 

[jaric1862]

Lebrun in his article says the price for Savard is a first rounder + prospect or group of picks equivalent to first round ... Insane asks.

Also he "wondered" if Lyubushkin would make the most sense for the Leafs now that Tanev is gone.

 

[SprDaVE]

Lebrun in his article says the price for Savard is a first rounder + prospect or group of picks equivalent to first round ... Insane asks.

Also he "wondered" if Lyubushkin would make the most sense for the Leafs now that Tanev is gone.

Yikes.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Dear Mr. Treliving, please no Schenn, Lybushkin, Bogosian or Gudbranson

 

[WTFMAN99]

It's out there that Vancouver and Carolina engaged on Pettersson talks and that has kind of re-ignited the contract extension talks.

Quite frankly, great move by Vancouver, it's a wake up call to Elias that they're not gonna sit on their ass waiting on him, they need to know if he's gonna stay or not and need to plan for the future, with or without him.

I hope we take a similar path this off-season with someone like Marner, let's get it done, give us real numbers and be serious about getting a deal done. If you're not, let us know and we can look at trade options that might appeal to you.

He has a NMC so he controls the process but I really hope we can get buy in quickly so it let's Treliving focus on other areas, god knows we have lots of areas of need on this roster.