Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[ToneDog]

We need Cowan. We may have to let Marner walk if we implode again. A new gm may not want to overpay him.

They will gladly overpay Marner, because Tavares will be coming off the books. They will sign him and run it back after using the coach "bullet" to justify it. Shanny is a politician. A bad one, but a politician.

 

[LeafChief]

I can see the logic in Nelson. He could be a really good second line centre for the Leafs, and he's proven that he can score in the playoffs. But it would for sure cost the 1st and a good prospect since he has another year left on his contract.

Nelson is better than Lee but if they were going to move Cowan, I'd prefer it to be for a high end young defender with term.

We need Cowan. We may have to let Marner walk if we implode again. A new gm may not want to overpay him.

If you think theyre going to fire Treliving this summer, you're going to have a bad time.

 

[jaric1862]

Are the islanders selling? We could look into their Dmen

Mayfield
Pulock

I like both players. Unfortunately both have full No-Trade Clauses.

 

[Knies iT]

We need a tough drop the gloves dman and another of the same for a fourth line player to combat the Florida rats. If not we are gone in five again because the refs will let the rats run wild.

It's why I hated signing both Reaves and Kampf.

Kampf is an offensive blackhole and in order to get the most of out him, you need to build a shutdown line around him. Reaves can only be deployed as a 4th liner, but cannot hang on a shutdown line. So you end up with a misfit trio that serves no purpose.

We will probably end up with a combination of [Gregor - Kampf - Jarnkrok/Holmberg/McMann] 4th line, which is vanilla and soft.

 

[Menzinger]

I honestly would not be surprised if Murray is re-signed at a buriable amount next season to be what Martin Jones was for us this year. See if he can find anything at the AHL level and go from there. No harm against the cap.

It's been incredible to see what Kane has been able to do this year after the hip surgeries and Murray is much younger. Obviously, not comparing the pedigree of Murray to Kane.

Yep. Don't blink if he's the teams #3 next season

 

[Judas Tavares]

I think the narrative that a forward draft pick won't help you for 4 or 5 years needs to be thrown out the window. This isn't the 90's. I get that defencemen and goalies take time. But plenty of forwards step in at age 18-21 and contribute.

 

[Budz]

It's why I hated signing both Reaves and Kampf.

Kampf is an offensive blackhole and in order to get the most of out him, you need to build a shutdown line around him. Reaves can only be deployed as a 4th liner, but cannot hang on a shutdown line. So you end up with a misfit trio that serves no purpose.

We will probably end up with a combination of [Gregor - Kampf - Jarnkrok/Holmberg/McMann] 4th line, which is vanilla and soft.

A fourth line centre in Kampf that doesn’t score at will. Ya weird stuff.

Also, expecting Cowan to be a true impact player next is fool hearted.

 

[Captain Crunch]

They will gladly overpay Marner, because Tavares will be coming off the books. They will sign him and run it back after using the coach "bullet" to justify it. Shanny is a politician. A bad one, but a politician.

Hopefully the new guy that MLSE is bringing in will see things differently.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Still would love to see the Leafs go after Larsson and Tanev from Seattle.

To Toronto-
Larsson
Tanev

To Seattle-
Jarnkrok
Timmons
Reaves
Niemela
1st Round Pick

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Bertuzzi-Domi-Nylander
Tanev-Tavares-McMann
Robertson-Kampf-Holmberg

Rielly-Larsson
Brodie-Liljegren
Benoit- McCabe
Giordano

If I was Seattle I don’t think I would do that trade.

 

[darrylsittler27]

They will gladly overpay Marner, because Tavares will be coming off the books. They will sign him and run it back after using the coach "bullet" to justify it. Shanny is a politician. A bad one, but a politician.

If they do poorly in the playoffs I think big changes will happen and you can forget about Shanahan. That new guy comes in April. I think this is it for this model.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Yep. Don't blink if he's the teams #3 next season

I'm hoping he's our Bob in the playoffs this season

 

[Evilhomer]

Nelson is better than Lee but if they were going to move Cowan, I'd prefer it to be for a high end young defender with term.


If you think theyre going to fire Treliving this summer, you're going to have a bad time.

I don't think they would need to move Cowan for Nelson. I think it would probably be more like a 1st and Minten.

Yep. Don't blink if he's the teams #3 next season

Why would he resign to never play as a third string goalie? I imagine he will try to sign on as a backup somewhere on a one year deal. Now, maybe that could be Toronto since both Samsonov and Jones will likely be gone, but I think that's about the only way Murray comes back.

 

[OVO16]

Bro where are the trades. Boring af

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

The Leafs lines make a lot more sense now that Tavares and Nylander have been split up, but our 4th line still lacks any sort of identity. It has Kampf, but it's not really a defensive line. It has Reaves but it's not a gritty, crash and bang line. It has Gregor, but it's not really an energy line.

Each player serves a very specific role, but in combination they don't really make a lot of sense as a line in terms of accomplishing anything. They're not a shutdown line but they don't really drive play or cause havoc on the forecheck either.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Bro where are the trades. Boring af

Maybe the trade is already done... Just waiting for the other shoe to drop

 

[darrylsittler27]

When the sellers want too much everyone waits for the first show to drop and set the market. Clearly Tre won't overpay.

 

[Gabriel426]

I'm hoping he's our Bob in the playoffs this season

Or Klingberg being Makar in the playoffs or both.

 

[sxvnert]

When the sellers want too much everyone waits for the first show to drop and set the market. Clearly Tre won't overpay.

Tre gives everyone the impression that hes hard at work because hes busting every GMs balls every couple of days but when push comes to shove he does nothing. Everyone knows the type.

 

[Menzinger]

Why would he resign to never play as a third string goalie? I imagine he will try to sign on as a backup somewhere on a one year deal. Now, maybe that could be Toronto since both Samsonov and Jones will likely be gone, but I think that's about the only way Murray comes back.

Well, we ended up playing our #3 quite a bit this year.

He just spent a whole year not playing, he may not have a ton of suitors. I suspect he's probably going to have to start in a more limited role to build back his reputation. For both him and the team, he's known to the coaches + training staff, so it could be an easy fit.

I can see a scenario where they resign Jones to be the backup for cheap to help them ride out the tighter cap situation next season, especially if he finishes the season strongly. But it's too early to tell there. I could also see a scenario of Sammy coming back if he finishes strongly

 

[ULF_55]

I can see the logic in Nelson. He could be a really good second line centre for the Leafs, and he's proven that he can score in the playoffs. But it would for sure cost the 1st and a good prospect since he has another year left on his contract.

How much retention, 50%?

I'm sure the Islanders would be happy to move out 33 year old 50 point player with $7mm Cap Hit for an influx of futures.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Tre gives everyone the impression that hes hard at work because hes busting every GMs balls every couple of days but when push comes to shove he does nothing. Everyone knows the type.

With what little he got left he doesn't have much to bargain with. It's the Leafs when do we ever win a trade? It's rare, everyone wants overpay. If Tre would give up a first then a trade would have already happened. Because of our salary structure we can't give up young and cheap prospects.Our defense pool is thin.

 

[Evilhomer]

How much retention, 50%?

I'm sure the Islanders would be happy to move out 33 year old 50 point player with $7mm Cap Hit for an influx of futures.

Nelson is 32 and scored 75 points last season, and he makes $6 million.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Nelson at 50% retention would be a very high commodity

 

[Evilhomer]

Nelson at 50% retention would be a very high commodity

What motivation would the Islanders have to retain on Nelson? He's a 35 goal scorer on a good contract.

 

[ULF_55]

A fourth line centre in Kampf that doesn’t score at will. Ya weird stuff.

Also, expecting Cowan to be a true impact player next is fool hearted.

Yeah, I think some people are forgetting that not every player is an impact player.

How many non-impact players on the team today?