Lots of Islanders fans are actually thinking he will be moved. What I've gathered from more then a few interactions with them is Dobson, Pulock, and Romanov is who they would like to keep while giving bolduc more ice to gain experience. They would obviously want a solid forward in the deal for Pelech.
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from a fans perspective I agree with you all day, but that doesn't mean once he got his big payday he will not have provided value for his deal. showing once again that signing a goalie to a big long term contract probably isn't ideal.
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I'd be curious on the cost to acquire him - if it was reasonable, I would do it but not sure NYI would deal a player to us.
Getting someone like Engvall for a 3rd round pick isn't a big deal but yea...I feel like there is bad blood that might make it a tough transaction
100% - I am not a big advocate for large goalie contracts. Carey Price was the best goalie in the world and probably got 3M more per year than I would have given him.
I think if you can keep it to 5-7.5M range for the right age of their careers, it's fine.
With Vas....he gave you 2 cups...you know the contract isn't going to age the best but you know his number is being retired.
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Even Vasi, his first cup was before the contract kicked in and the second cup was 9.5 mil over the cap ceiling. With Vasi and Kucherov at full cap hit they had to dump all their middle class players that put in a lot of work in those cup runs.
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Leafs will have the leverage at that point. If he wants more 2 x $3m, cut him loose.
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Kane and Toews also didn't have their 10.5M kick in until have the 3rd cup.
It's not the best situation but when someone gives you 2-3 cups, you say thanks.
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McDonagh and Muzzin were 30 when traded and Toews was not an established top pairing D when the Isles traded him. I'm also dubious about Hronek away from Hughes, but you are right about Jones, Weegar, Hamilton, Lindholm and Chychrun. Still, the thing that is important to consider is not all of these players were willing to sign in Toronto, Hanifin may not even be. Hence the need to be aggressive IMO.
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Yeah that’s fine I just wouldn’t use him as an example of a big money goalie winning a cup as a template for other teams to follow. He had 0 cups when he signed that deal unlike Kane and Towes. Still I’m not saying it’s a necessarily bad deal but you only get in the position to sign Vasi to that contract when you draft and develop one in the first place.
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Yep. I like Jenner (wish the Leafs had taken him way back in '11 than Biggs) but his value is definitely a lot higher to the Jackets than his on ice value tangibly is. A bad formula for an overpayment situation that's best avoided
With the Leafs you must always doubt it. Its amazing the amount of playoff revenue they have lost over the decades and yet they just dont seem to care and fake it every year. I still remember the ceo saying " Dont worry we will win a cup." Now look at us. No one thinks they can even win 2 rounds.
For those targets I don’t disagree with holding the 1st. But sure, that would likely mean we just don’t get them. Lack of 2nd does hurt us for sure.
There is to much not to like about this team to waste assets.
Walker or Carrier? That's a big bag of bleh for me... can we please go after bigger Dmen... Parayko, Hanifin, Seeler
Carrier is underrated. If they don't have a specific target in mind, they can just wait for free agency and see which one of them they can land.
It’s only a potential waste if you buy rentals or grossly overpay
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Walker would be a really good fit but yeah, I can't see the Leafs being able to land him or Carrier with what they have to offer, and I'm not sure any of the prospects available (Kokkonen, Hirvonen, Steeves, Abruzzese, Petruzelli) have enough value compared to a 2nd round pick.
Imho I feel that Adam Larsson would be a good Reilly partner.
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Yeah that's the big problem we've got is we can't really afford much. We haven't got the currency.
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I think more than we're willing to pay. I'd value him more than Sean Monahan, who just returned a 1st.
Unless we really want to pay.... Robertson, Liljegren, Cowan, Minten, 1st....
Shit. OK back to the drawing board. Thought I was onto something.
Arizona would definitely be a team that could help us out (for a change).
We’re going to be able to get one of those RHD with a couple 3rds. There’s just not enough suitors.
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