Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[Fogelhund]

Gregor is probably fastest on the team but he's north-south only and skates with his head down. I'd love to see more speed, but I'd also love to see us get heavier and play more of the cycle down low rather than constantly throwing it into the slot.

All we need to do to fix this team, is get faster, bigger, stronger, grittier, more secondary scoring, better defensively, and better goaltending. Easy Peasy.

 

[ULF_55]

All we need to do to fix this team, is get faster, bigger, stronger, grittier, more secondary scoring, better defensively, and better goaltending. Easy Peasy.

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[Dragao6]

Imho Adam Larsson would be a great partner for Reilly. I don’t know if Seattle would trade him or the cost to acquire him but I think he’d make Reilly better.

I too have hoped for an adam Larson + Brandon tanev deal

We could get rid of bertuzzi for assets

 

[1specter]

All we need to do to fix this team, is get faster, bigger, stronger, grittier, more secondary scoring, better defensively, and better goaltending. Easy Peasy.

Honestly, this is the worst spot to be in as a fan. The team is just good enough to get in the playoffs, but too mid to actually have any hope of going deep. They'll be an easy out and won't have a high pick to look forward to either, and are too capped out to make significant changes. My interest in this team and sport is starting to wane heavily and I find myself enjoying NFL and NBA more these days, though all the Toronto teams kinda suck right now.

Btw, you forgot a better coach on your list too lol.

 

[ULF_55]

I too have hoped for an adam Larson + Brandon tanev deal

We could get rid of bertuzzi for assets

If a team is willing to trade NHL player for NHL player for a player restart I'm all in.

If they want futures or picks, don't make the trade.

If they can move some unperformers for futures, and play the kids.

 

[rumman]

All we need to do to fix this team, is get faster, bigger, stronger, grittier, more secondary scoring, better defensively, and better goaltending. Easy Peasy.

Ain’t that the truth…..

 

[weems]

Honestly, this is the worst spot to be in as a fan. The team is just good enough to get in the playoffs, but too mid to actually have any hope of going deep. They'll be an easy out and won't have a high pick to look forward to either, and are too capped out to make significant changes. My interest in this team and sport is starting to wane heavily and I find myself enjoying NFL and NBA more these days, though all the Toronto teams kinda suck right now.

Btw, you forgot a better coach on your list too lol.

I agree with you on the NHL/NBA/NFL point.

We're told the cap system is so awesome because of parity and that this superior skills hockey is so much better but I find myself losing quite a bit of interest every year.

Whatever you think about that Rielly play the other night, one thing it did do was create tons of buzz. I feel like with the increase in skill there's also been a downgrade in intensity, animosity and overall physicality and those elements have always brought a ton of excitement to the game.

 

[Fogelhund]

Btw, you forgot a better coach on your list too lol.

..and new GM etc...

 

[rumman]

..and new GM etc...

And ownership that wants to win a cup more than renewed season tickets and jersey sales….

I agree with you on the NHL/NBA/NFL point.

We're told the cap system is so awesome because of parity and that this superior skills hockey is so much better but I find myself losing quite a bit of interest every year.

Whatever you think about that Rielly play the other night, one thing it did do was create tons of buzz. I feel like with the increase in skill there's also been a downgrade in intensity, animosity and overall physicality and those elements have always brought a ton of excitement to the game.

Lots of skill, lacking heart and killer instinct….

 

[Martin Skoula]

I agree with you on the NHL/NBA/NFL point.

We're told the cap system is so awesome because of parity and that this superior skills hockey is so much better but I find myself losing quite a bit of interest every year.

Whatever you think about that Rielly play the other night, one thing it did do was create tons of buzz. I feel like with the increase in skill there's also been a downgrade in intensity, animosity and overall physicality and those elements have always brought a ton of excitement to the game.

It went from guys being willing to maim each other to win a random Tuesday game in February to all the players being buddies that hang out and act like coworkers that just happen to work at different regional branches. They’re NHLPA members before they’re Maple Leafs or Red Wings.

 

[Gabriel426]

My only response to that is kampf was more part of the team then laff he was a thrown in depth piece not saying kampf was the core but he was already here for 2 seasons

True and Kampf also cost a million more than Lafferty. You can say he did his job but there is no added value from his game.
Lafferty plays a rougher and in your face style and also a faster skater. He should had been kept instead of Kampf.

lol Lafferty has been complete ass for most of the year masked by a stretch of goals and points. His (horrible) metrics have caught up with his raw stats. 5 points in his last 23.

Lafferty is a case where the eye test, advanced stats and raw stats have finally aligned into one replaceable depth player.

Still better Kampf this season.

 

[Al14]

..and new GM etc...

And most importantly, a new President of Hockey Ops !!!

Shanahan needs to go back to 'officially' working for the NHL !!!

 

[Fogelhund]

And most importantly, a new President of Hockey Ops !!!

Shanahan needs to go back to 'officially' working for the NHL !!!

Where he'll be put in charge of DoPs, and hold a grudge against us for a decade.

 

[Al14]

Where he'll be put in charge of DoPs, and hold a grudge against us for a decade.

It's NO WORSE than what Parros is doing right now.

Actually, if Shanahan were to hold a grudge against our Leafs for a deacde, it would more than PROVE how CORRUPT he and the NHL truly are !!!

 

[jaric1862]

Would much rather Hanifin to Tanev.
I doubt he’s available but they should take a big swing at Parayko.
Connor Murphy fits the bill for a big RD who has term.

 

[Fogelhund]

Would much rather Hanifin to Tanev.
I doubt he’s available but they should take a big swing at Parayko.
Connor Murphy fits the bill for a big RD who has term.

Plus he's already on LTIR, so he fits here like a glove.

Seriously though, out with a Groin Injury, been on LTIR since January 16th. I'm not sure when he'll be back, but we aren't really one D man away from competing... sure, if there is a great long-term deal out there, that doesn't cost too much...

I'd inquire about Larsson and Gudas too.

Then look at Hanifin or Forsling at UFA's in the summer, if they make it to UFA.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Would much rather Hanifin to Tanev.
I doubt he’s available but they should take a big swing at Parayko.
Connor Murphy fits the bill for a big RD who has term.

If we were to spend assets on a man. I'd prefer Hanifin since we can get Tanev for free in the summer

 

[Fogelhund]

If we were to spend assets on a man. I'd prefer Hanifin since we can get Tanev for free in the summer

I mean... they are both UFA's, so theoretically, you could either/both for free in the summer.

 

[Al14]

If we were to spend assets on a man. I'd prefer Hanifin since we can get Tanev for free in the summer

With his injury history, Tanev is a great candidate for our LTIR. It would be best to acquire him for nothing more than another cap hit. IMHO, spending assets to acquire him would be foolish, and probably, a bad bet.

 

[mydnyte]

True and Kampf also cost a million more than Lafferty. You can say he did his job but there is no added value from his game.
Lafferty plays a rougher and in your face style and also a faster skater. He should had been kept instead of Kampf.


Still better Kampf this season.

Lafferty shows up a few games then vanishes for a dozen ...he had a very hot start to the season
in his first 10 3G 2A
next 10 1G 3A
then had a hot 8 games with 4G and 2A
in his last 23 games he has 2 goals and 3 assists

Gregor has even less production, but, its not like Laferty is any more than a decent 4th liner

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Lafferty shows up a few games then vanishes for a dozen ...he had a very hot start to the season
in his first 10 3G 2A
next 10 1G 3A
then had a hot 8 games with 4G and 2A
in his last 23 games he has 2 goals and 3 assists

Gregor has even less production, but, its not like Laferty is any more than a decent 4th liner

Lafferty has been a healthy scratch in Vancouver for their past couple games, hes clearly not the difference maker people pretended as soon as we traded him.

 

[SprDaVE]

I'd be starting extensions talk with a few of the pending UFAs to gauge where they are at. I don't really care if they walk at the end of the season, but I think if say Brodie is willing to sign a cheaper extension, it might be worth it. Same for Domi to a certain degree. I don't think Bertuzzi will care to do that but perhaps stability would be something he wants? I dunno.

The other thing is that I hope this team pulls the pin on the grenade if they lose ground in the next couple weeks. Punt some of them, recoup assets, go with youth and hope that creates enough of a ripple. I don't think the top players will make them bad enough to do this but you never know.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

I'd be starting extensions talk with a few of the pending UFAs to gauge where they are at. I don't really care if they walk at the end of the season, but I think if say Brodie is willing to sign a cheaper extension, it might be worth it. Same for Domi to a certain degree. I don't think Bertuzzi will care to do that but perhaps stability would be something he wants? I dunno.

The other thing is that I hope this team pulls the pin on the grenade if they lose ground in the next couple weeks. Punt some of them, recoup assets, go with youth and hope that creates enough of a ripple. I don't think the top players will make them bad enough to do this but you never know.

Agreed. Baring a seismic trade and change in the gameplay of our boys...

This has been one of the weaker teams we have iced in a while. Someone said it best above...not too good, not too bad, just in the middle. The ONLY positive of being in the playoff spot is that everyone aside from one or two teams, feels vulnerable. The parity and inconsistency are intriguing. Still doesn't fill me with confidence though.

 

[Arzak]

All we need to do to fix this team, is get faster, bigger, stronger, grittier, more secondary scoring, better defensively, and better goaltending. Easy Peasy.

All minor issues, hence why we are contenders!


Not to mention, I hate to break it to you, but we could also use a better coach

 

[Gabriel426]

Lafferty shows up a few games then vanishes for a dozen ...he had a very hot start to the season
in his first 10 3G 2A
next 10 1G 3A
then had a hot 8 games with 4G and 2A
in his last 23 games he has 2 goals and 3 assists

Gregor has even less production, but, its not like Laferty is any more than a decent 4th liner

Lafferty has been a healthy scratch in Vancouver for their past couple games, hes clearly not the difference maker people pretended as soon as we traded him.

Lafferty production was mainly bc he played with Petey for a stretch and he scored and produced.

He is a 4th liner that plays with an edge and doesn't mind using his body.
Kampf is Kampf.
To me they are about the same but Lafferty is someone who crashes the net more and plays with more sandpaper. also he is ONE million cheaper.
With all things considered, choosing Kampf over Lafferty was a mistake.