Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[ULF_55]

Never happen, if there’s one player I want from the Yotes it’s Lawson Crouse……..

What's your offer.

Kampf, Holmberg, 1st. round pick?
or
Kampf, Robertson, 1st. round pick?
or
Kampf, ?, 1st. round pick?

 

[leafan11]

Kampf had raised his game big time in the last two playoffs . I’d move on from him the summer of you have to . He’s also a big locker room guy.

 

[TMLAM34]

Leafs should look into trading Marner for Keller. Marner is going to be renegotiating his contract soon and will likely be looking for around 12-12.5M. Keller only makes 7.15M for 4 more years. 5M in cap savings there could go a real long way to building a stanley cup defense

I wish.

 

[Avilaj07]

To Toronto-
Keller
Crouse

To Arizona-
Marner
Holmberg
1st Round Pick

Knies-Matthews-Keller
Crouse-Tavares-Nylander
Bertuzzi-Domi-Robertson
Gregor-Kampf-Jarnkrok

 

[Stephen]

The rules for Kampf apply to all the other players.

If a good deal can be made to upgrade the team, and it fits with the direction of the team, trade away.

Kampf is okayy, but an inefficient use of the cap. It would be nice if Toronto could replicate something like the Pavel Zacha experiment in Boston where you take a chronically underperforming Top 10 pick and you do the whole reclamation song and dance. Plug him into a 3C role and hopefully they blossom into a Top 6. We have to be smarter as an organization and plant seeds for long term solutions instead of this short term bet mentality.

Not a centerman, but Kappo Kakko, Oliver Wahlstrom, etc. maybe take a flyer on a bottom six guy like that.

 

[Sypher04]

I have to admit, I still think David Savard at 50% retention has the potential to be a good fit here. Price would have to be right though.

 

[hamzarocks]

I have to admit, I still think David Savard at 50% retention has the potential to be a good fit here. Price would have to be right though.

MTL would want a 2nd for Savard at 50% to us.

We dont have a 2nd and I dont want to givea 2nd level prospect/player for him tbh (Niemela, Minten, Robertson)

MTL has found way to get good values on their tradable assets

Chiarot, Monahan both got a lot better than most thought.

I think I'd stay away from trading with them tbh

 

[Dreakmur]

Perry would have been a nice add in that McMann spot.

When all is said and done, I hope only one of Holmberg, McMann or Robertson are playing regularly in the playoffs. Need to add some functional grit in that bottom 6. Acciari was great last year. Maybe Bjustad is someone that they look at with some size at centre (push Domi to the wing).

I saw someone mention Bjustad and Dumba earlier in the thread. Would be a low end cost move that could add some depth and grit.

He would be a good add, but I’m not sure Bjugstad would be particularly low cost. He should be in higher demand than Sean Monahan, who just returned a 1st.

 

[Dreakmur]

Kampf is okayy, but an inefficient use of the cap. It would be nice if Toronto could replicate something like the Pavel Zacha experiment in Boston where you take a chronically underperforming Top 10 pick and you do the whole reclamation song and dance. Plug him into a 3C role and hopefully they blossom into a Top 6. We have to be smarter as an organization and plant seeds for long term solutions instead of this short term bet mentality.

Not a centerman, but Kappo Kakko, Oliver Wahlstrom, etc. maybe take a flyer on a bottom six guy like that.

What’s inefficient about investing in a shut-down centre who can lead a PK unit? That’s an important role on any contender.

 

[ULF_55]

He would be a good add, but I’m not sure Bjugstad would be particularly low cost. He should be in higher demand than Sean Monahan, who just returned a 1st.

Maybe the Oilers will rent him again, except this year it is for 2 years?

 

[Hellcat]

Calgary just claimed RD Pachal from Vegas. No secret Calgary is in a trade now mode, might mean Tanev is moving soon Calgary's top RD:

Andersson ($4.55 till 2025-26 - Treliving signing) Rating 87 P1
Weegar ($6.25 till 2030-31 - Treliving signing) Rating 83 P2
Tanev ($4.5 expires this year - Treliving signing) Rating 83 P2
Pysysk (minors league min- Conroy signing) Depth

For context on ratings Morgan is rated as a P2 84. P1 is first pair, P2 is second pair, P3 is 3rd pair.

 

[notdoneyet]

Leafs should look into trading Marner for Keller. Marner is going to be renegotiating his contract soon and will likely be looking for around 12-12.5M. Keller only makes 7.15M for 4 more years. 5M in cap savings there could go a real long way to building a stanley cup defense

We should have traded nylander for keller when they had the chance

 

[Stephen]

What’s inefficient about investing in a shut-down centre who can lead a PK unit? That’s an important role on any contender.

I compare Kampf to a Morgan Geekie and Boston's getting a ton more two way mileage out of a cheaper UFA signing with size.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Calgary just claimed RD Pachal from Vegas. No secret Calgary is in a trade now mode, might mean Tanev is moving soon Calgary's top RD:

Andersson ($4.55 till 2025-26 - Treliving signing) Rating 87 P1
Weegar ($6.25 till 2030-31 - Treliving signing) Rating 83 P2
Tanev ($4.5 expires this year - Treliving signing) Rating 83 P2
Pysysk (minors league min- Conroy signing) Depth

For context on ratings Morgan is rated as a P2 84. P1 is first pair, P2 is second pair, P3 is 3rd pair.

I'd take Weegar in a heart beat.

What’s inefficient about investing in a shut-down centre who can lead a PK unit? That’s an important role on any contender.

I compare Kampf to a Morgan Geekie and Boston's getting a ton more two way mileage out of a cheaper UFA signing with size.

The shut down centre is crap.

Vegas just has 4 lines and their job is to go out and be better than the line across from them.

Dubas tried to build the team with low event defensive guys to buy time for the big guys to go back out.

 

[Stephen]

Leafs should look into trading Marner for Keller. Marner is going to be renegotiating his contract soon and will likely be looking for around 12-12.5M. Keller only makes 7.15M for 4 more years. 5M in cap savings there could go a real long way to building a stanley cup defense

Don't want to open up a Keller vs Marner line of argumentation but what I like more about Keller's play style is it's a cleaner puck carrying style, efficient playmaking, executing skill plays with speed, with some more scoring upside. He looks like a kid who grew up watching Patrick Kane. It's a less fussy, slow it down style than Marner.

 

[Stephen]

The shut down centre is crap.

Vegas just has 4 lines and their job is to go out and be better than the line across from them.

Dubas tried to build the team with low event defensive guys to buy time for the big guys to go back out.

Yeah, like I said, we get into trouble when the team is run like an NBA starting five with the rest of the bench in tracksuits sitting around. We seem to chronically get very little out of our non core guys offensively.

 

[ULF_55]

Calgary just claimed RD Pachal from Vegas. No secret Calgary is in a trade now mode, might mean Tanev is moving soon Calgary's top RD:

Andersson ($4.55 till 2025-26 - Treliving signing) Rating 87 P1
Weegar ($6.25 till 2030-31 - Treliving signing) Rating 83 P2
Tanev ($4.5 expires this year - Treliving signing) Rating 83 P2
Pysysk (minors league min- Conroy signing) Depth

For context on ratings Morgan is rated as a P2 84. P1 is first pair, P2 is second pair, P3 is 3rd pair.

Andersson?

Yeah, that ain't happening but it would be nice.

LD Rielly - RD Andersson
LD McCabe - RD Liljegren
LD Benoit - LD Brodie

 

[WTFMAN99]

Don't want to open up a Keller vs Marner line of argumentation but what I like more about Keller's play style is it's a cleaner puck carrying style, efficient playmaking, executing skill plays with speed, with some more scoring upside. He looks like a kid who grew up watching Patrick Kane. It's a less fussy, slow it down style than Marner.

ARI/TOR/ANA 3-way?

TOR: Keller, McBain, BOS 2024 2nd (from ANA)
ARI: Zegras, Jarnkrok, Lundestrom
ANA: Marner, Robertson, Soderstrom

 

[Sypher04]

I would gladly take Weegar off Calgary’s hands

 

[Stephen]

I would gladly take Weegar off Calgary’s hands

Gives me Bryan McCabe vibes.

 

[Kiwi]

the list of sub 3m c's that can thrive in shutdown minutes with a non defensive pto and a tweener ahler is not long.

So he cant do the defensive Job asked of him and he brings zero offence all at the low low price of 2.4M * 4

Lot of money for a guy that's basically useless

The rules for Kampf apply to all the other players.

If a good deal can be made to upgrade the team, and it fits with the direction of the team, trade away.

How? he has negative value

For forwards:

He gets 9th. most ES TOI/g.

We might not like it but he's getting 3rd. line minutes at even strength, and most SH TOI/g.

And does what exactly?

Can't score, bad defensively, the PK sucks
But sure, our coach loves the big plug

He’s had a rough couple of months, but it doesn’t help that Keefe has no idea how to deploy him. You can’t anchor him with the worst linemates and the toughest assignments. Who the hell can succeed in those circumstances?

Couple of months? He's done nothing productive since Engvall left

So now Keefe is to blame for using the guy with zero offensive ability defensive specialist like he's should be used?

I don't care, I'm not remaking the entire bottom 6 to help that overpaid plug be useful

 

[baton elevated]

Don't want to open up a Keller vs Marner line of argumentation but what I like more about Keller's play style is it's a cleaner puck carrying style, efficient playmaking, executing skill plays with speed, with some more scoring upside. He looks like a kid who grew up watching Patrick Kane. It's a less fussy, slow it down style than Marner.

Marner is the better player. I'm not adverse to trading Mitchy but he should get more than Keller back. IMHO

 

[ULF_55]

Marner is the better player. I'm not adverse to trading Mitchy but he should get more than Keller back. IMHO

Get the Coyotes to throw a few of their dozen 2nd. round picks in.

Put Keller on the third line and tell him he's still in Arizona and maybe he'll still produce like he does there?

 

[TheShape]

Andersson?

Yeah, that ain't happening but it would be nice.

LD Rielly - RD Andersson
LD McCabe - RD Liljegren
LD Benoit - LD Brodie

I don't see Andersson as some sort of untouchable. Flames are heading in the wrong direction whether ownership realize it or not. He has two years remaining, I don't see Andersson re-signing for a rebuild, but who knows.

I would gladly take Weegar off Calgary’s hands

Bonafide top 4, great compliment to Rielly, but Weegar's age and term scare me away. I don't want to deal with that decline, too bad he wasn't a few years younger.

 

[baton elevated]

Crouse and 5 (2nds) if we are fantasizing lol