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good for jim rutherford. guy has guts. i hope they win the cup
 
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Still not sure this is the year to go for it, maybe sell off Domi, Bertuzzi, Kampf, Brodie and work in the off season to get better via free agency.

Wennberg, Tanev, Forsling and this is a much much better team
 
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Glad Tanev is off the market, did not want to trade for him. On the other hand, although the price for Lindholme is likely extraordinate, he would have fit in perfectly.

swing for Chychyrun. These young D who can skate like that do not come available very often. We should be giving up whatever we can to get him
 
Future said:
Chychrun would be my number 1 target. Dubas trading that package for ROR instead of Chychrun last year was such an idiotic move.
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Well, except for the part where Arizona wanted a larger package from Toronto than Ottawa ended up paying for him...
 
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Fogelhund said:
Blue line shots efficiency is around 3%.. meanwhile, he's really not very good defensively.

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By the way... Timmins has a great shot from the point...

Ottawa gives up 4 GA/60 when he's on the ice... the worst on the team easily. (It's also the same results as when Klingberg was on the ice for us) Ottawa is 23rd in the league on the PP... When he was on Arizona, they were 30th. He'd get torn up here by the fans so badly for his defense, it's not even funny.

He's got 11 points on the PP... Morgan has 14....

Clamouring for a point shot, when they aren't really effective is so dated, particularly for an expensive player, who isn't very good defensively.
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Chychrun has one of if not the best point shot in the league. Can’t compare him to league averages and those that whip muffins in from the point hoping for a tip.

I’ve seen Chychrun play quite a bit and he’s not great defensively but certainly not the train wreck you’ve made him out to be. He can be a game changer for a team like a Shea Theodore.
 
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Heres a roster for next season without trading our 1st our any of our prospects @WTFMAN99

RFA resigns
Benoit 1.25M * 2
Lagoie .850K
Robertson 1.5M * 2

UFA signings
Wennberg 4M * 3
Roy 5.5M * 5
Lafferty 1.5M * 2
Trenin 1.5M * 2
Nedeljkovic 1.5M * 2

Trades
Kampf for Peeke, Bad contact for bad contact change of scenery

Reeves + Tor 5th 2024 to anybody for free

liljegren + Cal 5th 2024 to Columbus for Provorov 2M retained, Columbus gets younger and team control for multiple years Leafs get cheap top 4D this year and next

Timmins to anybody for free

Knies Matthews Marner
.925. 13.250. 10.9
Nylander Wennberg Cowan
11.5. 4. .935
Robertson Tavares Jarnkrok
1.5. 11. 2.1
Trenin Holmberg Lafferty
1.5. .800. 1.5
Ellis
.900

Rielly Roy
7.5. 5.5
Provorov McCabe
2.725 2
Benoit Peeke
1.25. 2.75
Lajoie
.850

Woll
.766
Nedeljkovic
1.5

2M in cap space and if the Russian Tsyplakov comes over he plays on the bottom line and we save another .6M

ok you lot, rip it apart 🤣
 
Saw this on the flames board. Interesting trade idea

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Okie-dokie then. Since I'm biding my time until the puck drop I've come up with a whopper of a trade not heard of since the 80's and that wonderful Dougie Gilmour blockbuster trade with another former Flames GM.

So without further ado..

Ahem.

To Toronto:
Markstrom
Tanev (50% retained)
8.25 M out

To Flames: (take a deep breath)
Pontus Holmberg 800K
Nick Robertson 797K
Timothy Liljegren 1.4M
Ilya Samsonov 3.6M
Ryan Reaves 1.4M
2024 1st
~7.997 in

Not the draft pick or grade A prospect haul folks have speculated about, but 3 team controlled players in the right age group for a re-tool, one reclamation project (maybe) in a goaltender, and one kinda bad contract but a player who, when healthy, scares the beejezus out of people.

The sheer number of players from the T.O. side is strictly to make the cap work.

Who's with me?

P.S.

After a while it doesn't hurt anymore.
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If we don’t want to spend premium assets. I’ve heard Zadarov hasn’t fit well in VCR. Moreover, with bringing in Lindholm and Tanev they may not have room for him.

I’ve heard he could be shopped.

Might we still scoop him up for 5th or so?
 
Skullz said:
Glad Tanev is off the market, did not want to trade for him. On the other hand, although the price for Lindholme is likely extraordinate, he would have fit in perfectly.

swing for Chychyrun. These young D who can skate like that do not come available very often. We should be giving up whatever we can to get him
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Tanev wasn't traded
 
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One stop shop with Seattle, Wennberg and Borgen. Not sure what it would take to acquire those two but they fit our team needs.

Jarnkrok - Matthews - Marner
Knies - Wennberg - Nylander
Bertuzzi - Tavares - Robertson
McMann - Kampf - Holmberg

Rielly - Borgen
Brodie - Liljegren
Benoit - McCabe

Yes I know having Borgen isn’t ideal with Rielly, we aren’t going to fix all our team’s issues at the TDL. Odd man out of this lineup is Domi, just don’t see a fit with him. Ideally we trade him for a 2nd and use that 2nd in the deal with Seattle.
 
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Menzinger said:
At a glance seems like Vancouver does well, they're having a good season and added a good centre (albeit whose having a down year).

Flames pick up some useful assets for a piece they were going to lose. That said, the 1st is seemingly the only high value asset paired with a bunch of stuff thats the equivalent value of a few mid round picks
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Kuzmenko will be interesting with a new team... even with a normal shooting percentage, he would have put up 55 points last year... near the same pace as Lindholm this year... though clearly Lindholm is far superior.


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This is pretty good production for a D+1 RD....

Brzustewicz - RD, 69 points in 47 D+1 year...​

 
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Menzinger said:
At a glance seems like Vancouver does well, they're having a good season and added a good centre (albeit whose having a down year).

Flames pick up some useful assets for a piece they were going to lose. That said, the 1st is seemingly the only high value asset paired with a bunch of stuff thats the equivalent value of a few mid round picks
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Yeah the deal has the potential to be really good for the Flames if Kuzmenko bounces back and maybe gets flipped next year, and that Scrabble name D-man turns into a solid NHLer. Vancouver also got $5.5M of freed up cap space for next year, which is an underrated part of this deal

Surprised there was no retention on Lindholm, but solid deal nonetheless.
 
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Kiwi said:
Heres a roster for next season without trading our 1st our any of our prospects @WTFMAN99

RFA resigns
Benoit 1.25M * 2
Lagoie .850K
Robertson 1.5M * 2

UFA signings
Wennberg 4M * 3
Roy 5.5M * 5
Lafferty 1.5M * 2
Trenin 1.5M * 2
Nedeljkovic 1.5M * 2

Trades
Kampf for Peeke, Bad contact for bad contact change of scenery

Reeves + Tor 5th 2024 to anybody for free

liljegren + Cal 5th 2024 to Columbus for Provorov 2M retained, Columbus gets younger and team control for multiple years Leafs get cheap top 4D this year and next

Timmins to anybody for free

Knies Matthews Marner
.925. 13.250. 10.9
Nylander Wennberg Cowan
11.5. 4. .935
Robertson Tavares Jarnkrok
1.5. 11. 2.1
Trenin Holmberg Lafferty
1.5. .800. 1.5
Ellis
.900

Rielly Roy
7.5. 5.5
Provorov McCabe
2.725 2
Benoit Peeke
1.25. 2.75
Lajoie
.850

Woll
.766
Nedeljkovic
1.5

2M in cap space and if the Russian Tsyplakov comes over he plays on the bottom line and we save another .6M

ok you lot, rip it apart 🤣
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Okay RFAs, I actually don't think you'll need to pay Benoit or Robertson that, maybe I am wrong on Robertson. I'd prefer Laggesson over Lajoie and even then I don't think it's more than league minimum.

In terms of the UFA stuff - I like it all except I don't think Lafferty would come back unless Keefe left, although he probably is.

Trades are fine enough but I just don't think Provorov would be the guy we'd be targetting, my 2 cents.

It's not bad at all.
 
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Really hope we can acquire a big name under 30 player by hoodwinking another team with a on-paper overpayment but in reality zero game impact haul.
 
MarMarSab3 said:
Still not sure this is the year to go for it, maybe sell off Domi, Bertuzzi, Kampf, Brodie and work in the off season to get better via free agency.

Wennberg, Tanev, Forsling and this is a much much better team
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Is it really though? I think we'd need to aim higher than that. Those guys do not move the needle any more than the other group.
 
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