Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[ULF_55]

With Columbus and Jiricek at odds, I wonder if it's a good time to try and nab him. It'll take a lot but he's a future top 4 RHD that this team desperately needs

I'd say Liljegren is a future Top 4 RHD. Maybe he's there today, just needs more experience.

Is there any concern a 20 year old player feels he knows better than his management, and is making waves about it?

 

[Dreakmur]

Anything can be 'possible', probable is a different story.
The probability of him leaving this team as anything other than UFA is very low, virtually non existent.

If he knows we won’t resign him, he’d be stupid to turn down the 8th year of his next contract, which would require accepting a trade.

 

[ULF_55]

Worst case, Leafs are swept by Florida in round 1. Do you run it back?

I wouldn't be running Keefe back this year.

 

[ACC1224]

If he knows we won’t resign him, he’d be stupid to turn down the 8th year of his next contract, which would require accepting a trade.

If it came to that, I would think he would prefer to pick his destination from the many options that would be available over an extra year on his contract.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'd say Liljegren is a future Top 4 RHD. Maybe he's there today, just needs more experience.

Is there any concern a 20 year old player feels he knows better than his management, and is making waves about it?

I think someone already broke down the stats and there isn't 6 defenseman better than him on the Jackets, he should probably be playing and wasn't doing all that bad.

 

[Dreakmur]

If it came to that, I would think he would prefer to pick his destination from the many options that would be available over an extra year on his contract.

That's what the NMC does - he can pick his destination.

 

[ACC1224]

That's what the NMC does - he can pick his destination.

It's not that simple in a cap world.

 

[rumman]

Worst case, Leafs are swept by Florida in round 1. Do you run it back?

of course not, Shanahan and company......probably...........

 

[ULF_55]

I think someone already broke down the stats and there isn't 6 defenseman better than him on the Jackets, he should probably be playing and wasn't doing all that bad.

So Leafs trade for him, play him 3rd. pairing and he pouts.

Alienates all the other defenders because he tells them he's better than they are and he should be playing with Rielly.

 

[Dreakmur]

It's not that simple in a cap world.

If a team can't afford him, then it's not a destination he can choose even as UFA....

A trade makes more sense in a cap world, since they can send money back.

 

[Kiwi]

I'd say Liljegren is a future Top 4 RHD. Maybe he's there today, just needs more experience.

Is there any concern a 20 year old player feels he knows better than his management, and is making waves about it?

Id be concerned

He's young, I'd prefer him playing big minutes in the AHL than as a #6 on the tyre fire Jackets team to

His attitude to a pretty standard development situation is a red flag, sounds a bit entitled to me

 

[WTFMAN99]

So Leafs trade for him, play him 3rd. pairing and he pouts.

Alienates all the other defenders because he tells them he's better than they are and he should be playing with Rielly.

That's definitely getting ahead of ourselves, I think if he was getting into the league on 3rd pairing and maybe second PP minutes, it's a start and he works in from there. His results will determine ice time after that.

 

[ACC1224]

If a team can't afford him, then it's not a destination he can choose even as UFA....

A trade makes more sense in a cap world, since they can send money back.

They may have cap space in the off season that they wouldn't have in season.
Regardless, why would the Leafs want those players being dumped?

 

[WTFMAN99]

PS

Your boy made it into a Sportsnet article

Maple Leafs Mailbag: Who should Toronto target in a trade?

As the Toronto Maple Leafs scatter to sunshine for the bye week riding the relief of a three-game win streak, now is a fine time to take the temperature of the Nation. Here's our latest mailbag.

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[TMLAM34]

Korczak would be interesting. What do you guys think it’ll take to acquire him?

 

[Dreakmur]

They may have cap space in the off season that they wouldn't have in season.
Regardless, why would the Leafs want those players being dumped?

They wouldn't be taking cap dumps, but they'd be taking back players who have cap commitments. They'd want them for the same reason any team wants a player - because they could help them win.

 

[Evilhomer]

How will they fit the incoming players cap if they don't move cap out?

They have the Klingberg LTIR space, and they can have other teams retain salary.

 

[notdoneyet]

Marner = NMC

So many clueless posters keep asserting this narrative.
I love the ones that say ask him to waive the NMC and play hardball and if he doesn’t the fans will make him accept the trade.
He is no different than Matthews and nylander. He will have a price in mind that he wants and it will be up to Tre if it is acceptable to the team. If not he will walk as a UFA and choose where he wants to go.
Matthews wouldn’t be happy if management doesn’t sign marner because he contributes immensely to matthews success and matthews knows it and that’s all that matters whether or not the average keyboard warrior in here wants to believe it.

 

[I am Canadian]

Adding middling UFA defenders is just going to prolong the problems. We need a legit #2. Paying a couple of 30-year old #3s, who are going to quickly age into #4s puts us right back where we are.



Would he waive for Columbus?

I got my eye on a Marner Anaheim for Zegras +.

There was rumors of him signing an offer sheet there in the past - and rumblings that he's sick of the media attention in Toronto. Columbus seems like an up and coming team somewhat, and there's no media there.

 

[Dreakmur]

So many clueless posters keep asserting this narrative.
I love the ones that say ask him to waive the NMC and play hardball and if he doesn’t the fans will make him accept the trade.
He is no different than Matthews and nylander. He will have a price in mind that he wants and it will be up to Tre if it is acceptable to the team. If not he will walk as a UFA and choose where he wants to go.
Matthews wouldn’t be happy if management doesn’t sign marner because he contributes immensely to matthews success and matthews knows it and that’s all that matters whether or not the average keyboard warrior in here wants to believe it.

If he won't accept a trade, then he can walk as a UFA and enjoy his 7-year contract.

 

[notdoneyet]

What pieces do we see the Leafs parting with to make deadline upgrades?

Brodie Lilly Robertson kampf 1st any other future draft picks
Holmberg abruzezzi voit nielma

 

[TMLAM34]

Been reading a little more about Korczak, on board with trading for him.

Rielly - ________
McCabe - Liljegren
Benoit - Korczak

Basically just need to figure out a defensive partner for Rielly and the blueline looks pretty good. It’s decently mobile, lengthy and physical.

 

[Evilhomer]

Korczak would be interesting. What do you guys think it’ll take to acquire him?

Why would Vegas trade a 22 year old defenseman who plays 16 minutes per game for them?

 

[ToneDog]

So many clueless posters keep asserting this narrative.
I love the ones that say ask him to waive the NMC and play hardball and if he doesn’t the fans will make him accept the trade.
He is no different than Matthews and nylander. He will have a price in mind that he wants and it will be up to Tre if it is acceptable to the team. If not he will walk as a UFA and choose where he wants to go.
Matthews wouldn’t be happy if management doesn’t sign marner because he contributes immensely to matthews success and matthews knows it and that’s all that matters whether or not the average keyboard warrior in here wants to believe it.

So, for whatever reason say the Leafs tell Marner they are going in a different direction and would like to trade him to a team that will meet his terms, you do not think Mitch would be willing to listen and waive if it is a team he would be willing to sign with?

 

[notdoneyet]

If he won't accept a trade, then he can walk as a UFA and enjoy his 7-year contract.

He can do a matthews and sign for four and ten at 31 like matthews he can sign his 8 year taking him to retirement
There are plenty options

So, for whatever reason say the Leafs tell Marner they are going in a different direction and would like to trade him to a team that will meet his terms, you do not think Mitch would be willing to listen and waive if it is a team he would be willing to sign with?

What if it’s not a team he would accept a trade to. Is it worth pissing marner off so he plays out his final year